Nice , keep the pressure on.
Some day soon, Obama (Barry Soetoro) is going to go on tv and say: 'We have found a solution to the Manmade human exhaling induced global warming,
and we have been tested it for some time, and it works' and every body will then see that they are infact real, and a whole new battle begins, then
they must be told that it is a lie too.. LOl.
I invite everyone to just watch that video....won't take long, although it shows as over 10 minutes long, you can see within the first 45
seconds...FOUR contrails form, just as expected....one in trail, behind each engine.
Based on the paint scheme it is a Virgin Atlantic A340. (Only other four-engine long-haul equipment Virgin flies is the B-747, which it obviously is
A NORMAL PASSENGER JET! Quite obvious, to anyone who's educated, and knowledgable about such things, such as AVIATION!
Even most casual airline enthusisats and hobbyists can tell!
You have been PUNKED, yet again, by the "chemtrail" hoaxers!!! Good one! Now, turn off the fog machine, and let your brains air out....
Deeper into video, more baloney I see.....
Starting about :45 to 1:15?? Little 'puffs' coming out? Anyone know what that is? Anyone??
Look....has everyone flown at least once, on a large passenger jet? Been to the lavatory? When you use the toilet (flush it) the waste goes to a
holding tank, is emptied on the ground. BUT, when you wash up in the sink...know where the water goes?
That's right...overboard. Out specially designed vents (they are electrically heated so the water won't freeze up, and clog them).
Know what the Flight Attendants do when they dump out coffee pots? They pour them down the galley drains. THOSE drains tie into the same lines that
come from the lavatories. ANd overboard!
Really...that is the silliest "evidence" yet!
Here, didn't take me long to find example:
(Be sure to read the photo comments, offered by the contributor)...
I tried to find closeup photos of bellies and drain masts from the airliners.net website, but you have to do a lot of searching sometimes, so I'll
let the ATS membership have at it. (Hint: They are recognized, usually, by a copper-colored rim. That's the heating element portion, around the
exit hole. There is usually a placard painted or stuck on nearby warning that they can be hot to the touch).
The ice crystals or frozen condensation can be created in several ways - it has to do with altitude (why you never see alleged chemtrails at low
altitudes) and the disturbance of the atmosphere. This white condensation (ice) can be created from any surface of the airplane or behind the engines
- they can show up at the wingtips, the tail, wherever the air is being compressed.
Pictures don't help AT ALL!!!! Show me chemical analysis of these or some real proof... the whole chemtrails conspiracy THEORY is a failure because
you all can't provide anything but pictures or one reference in some old book.
Normal contrails due to disturbance of the air behind the engines.
What ? I didnt hear you weed, 2 engine planes leaving 3 trails maybe normal in your Basment at pentagon. Next time I'm in a plane , Im gonna pee in
the sink, just for fun...
I posted a Cool chemtrail Vid for the thread , no need for Trolling and Derailing is it now Weed ??
at 4:00 in this vid, you see a normal contrail, the 'stuff' you talk about Weed, and a chemtrail that is 1000x larger beneath it, common snce and
some amount of free thinking will tell you those two trails are not the same thing, unless ofcourse you are payed to say other wise, right Weed ?
I didnt hear you weed, 2 engine planes leaving 3 trails maybe normal...
I posted a Cool chemtrail Vid for the thread , no need for Trolling and Derailing...
First, the comment on top....you didn't pay attention to my post, did you? Well, that's alright, I'm used to it. Fortunately,
others can read and comprehend.
Secondly, you have the concept of "trolling" backwards. Or completely misunderstand it. (Maybe you should review the definition of 'Hoax' while
you're on about it).
Because, the premise of the OP's video (well, not sure it's his, but the one he posted) is flawed, and therefore can easily be classed as 'hoax'
in one sense. Or, to be charitable, not an intentionally criminal 'hoax', but instead just a poor example of not understanding science.
Following that same pattern, the video YOU posted also does not show what it claims, as I took pains to point out, with a photo to back that up as
I see the OP has now followed on with a REPEAT post of links (copied from another thread posting of his) that actually devastate the "chemtrail"
believers' claims, if one bothers to actually read those links, and take time to understand them in context.
ATS has PLENTY of these nonsense threads already, and every time they are shown to be without merit. Repeating BAD "information" doesn't make it
any good.....and is a detriment to the overall quality of ATS that should be expected.
OK....I see you fail in the "Critical judgement on videos test", as well....
...at 4:00 in this vid, you see a normal contrail, the 'stuff' you talk about Weed, and a chemtrail that is 1000x larger beneath
I watched, before, during and after the 4:00 point.....
They shot a jet making a contrail, zoomed in, showed the contrial dissipating (as they will do, sometimes) then EDIT!! The cut to a shot of ANOTHER
cloud, completely unrelated to the events just prior!!
I mean, YOU (falsely, but it's so cute and naive it's laughable) accuse me of being some sort of "agent"?? YET, you are so easily manipulated by
the hoaxers in those stupid YouTube videos....:shk:
SO, who do you really think are the liars and 'agents'? Hmmmmm?
OH...and this willy-nilly name calling is only "cute" for so long....eventually the person doing the accusing had better put up or shut up.
By "put up", I suggest you contact ATS staff, or better yet Management (one of the Three Amigos, go right to the source).
Inform them of your concerns regarding ME, that I might be some sort of 'mole' or deep 'agent'...I'm sure you'll make their day, and give them a
nice something to chuckle about.
The only thing any "chemtrail" video shows is that some people can use a camera and the internet.
The only video that would prove "chemtrails" exist would be a continuous take of a clean in situ sampling of a trail following chain of evidence
through to testing with a mass spectrometer and electron microscope. Then those figures would have to show the contributions of jet fuel through a
jet engine and atmosphere EXCLUDED.
Not going to happen. You probably believe the videos showing "spraying" plane are correct, when they really are showing the planes and
instrumentation needed to do just the type of test I describe.
"Chemtrails" show only gulibility, science ignorance, and lack of common sense. It is the most visual, high-maintenance, expensive, scattershot
method of distributing ANYTHING, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME, ANY LOCATION for ANY REASON. Logistically it CANNOT WORK.
"Chemtrails" used to "dumb-down" the population only applies to the people who believe in them.
Check weedwackers post out, This is a delusional man people. Listen to him try to explain away the global dimming project that has been going on
over ten years now--[n - wisconsin] I think weed wacker has been smoking something i dont smoke , maybe he should smoke some real wacky tobacky
instead of the poison he has been wacking-
People you will knotice right away the difference between a normal com- trail and a chem-trail after watching and investigating the matter a
1- A normal com-trail will dissapear soon behind the plane, since it is vapor from water, it will mix and delute with the air . A normal vapor
trail will DISSAPEAR AT THE SAME RATE OF FLIGHT THE PLANE MAKES [mph]
2- A chem-trail now is different in the way it does not dissapate but continues from horizon to horizon, along the sides of other passes from
other dimming planes-then you will see that it spreads out to mix with all trails to haze or cloud the skies by noon most days.
3-- These chem-trails contain alluminum, which keeps the sky blue but with a very noticable haze to it, LLWAYS sprayed up high. Some which
really cloud up the sky low-level are cloud seeding trails, which can contain a few different things like barrium salts.
ITS THE GOVERNMENT GLOBAL DIMMING PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 10 YEARS HERE IN N-WISCONSIN And i can say that the government has
really picked up the pace with their spraying 4 years ago, till this past winter when they sprayed here during that season,
We had the warmest winter here in n-wisconsin since recorded temp have been kept. with low snow levels also.
Believe it or not, doesnt matter now, but the truth will come out just like everything usually does. You global warming deniers will eat your
words, and have guilt for helping the NWO with their failure to change before it came to chem-spraying for dimming to reduce temp. All the poison
they spray to dim is on your heads also for you failed to educate yourself on the matter. The science is there, you deniers fail to read it.
You deniers help kill the child with asthma or adult
You help poison people with barrium , aluminum oxides,and a host of other chemicals they use.
You deniers help poison the environment whith these chems. that are now proving to be a complication on wildlifes health
To not educate yourself and deny chem spraying for global warming does make you evil in that department.
LAST i will add the fact that heating up the outside of the globe will insulate and help warm the inside [ MOVEMENT OF PLATES DUE TO EXPANSION
CAUSING MORE VOLCANOES AND EARTHQUAKES ]
Here's a pretty picture to share...since it's close-up, not sure how long the contrails lingered, in this instance. BUT, rest assured, when the
conditions are just right they WILL last for a long time...along with the OTHER more natually-occuring clouds that form as well.
Oh, and be sure to read the notes that come with this photo...Hint: It's on an aviaiton-oriented website, and THEY (the audience) wouldn't stand
for any baloney, IF what he (the photographer) says isn't true, and already well-understood by people in the field...(like me).
Second Hint: Don't try to BS someone when you don't have a clue what you're BS-ing about...
Speaking of 'education', I see by the old clock on the wall it;'s about time to trot this out, again....it's been buried in other threads for some
time, needs to see the light of day once more:
Please note the particular word there...it is the one referring to "persistance"....the red-dashed line.
What is really, really sad, though....it doesn't take much on Google to find idiots MIS-USING the Appleman Chart in order to 9in their warped sense
of 'science') "Prove" so-called 'chemtrials'!!
Intelligent people, when they see one of those claims, will be well-served to investigate closely, and determine the agenda there. BUT, what's
devious is how the "chemtrail" hoaxers try to double-speak, with the Appleman, in order to dazzle and confuse people....truly disengenuous.
Before you hear that "siren call of chemtrails" again, note that the fist linky to Appleman I gave is the "student' version...here, now, is the
The Facts: Under certain meterological conditions, high-altitude contrails can serve as a catalyst for the growth of cirrus clouds that
sometimes expand to enormous size. In other words, what starts out as a small contrail sometimes seeds the growth of a huge cirrus cloud. You will
note that so-called "chemtrails" are seldom if ever seen except in the presence of cirrus clouds. However, if they were actually "posion
spraying," this correlation would not exist, and they would be seen just as often in skies with cumulous clouds, or with no clouds at all.
Snippet from a generalized 'conspiracy' discussion page HERE.
Trust me on this because I know you won't research it yourself, but only "chemtrailers" think that a contrail must evaporate with a few minutes.
You all seem to forget about CLOUDS. Clouds being water/ice, and pollutants, just like a contrail, persist for HOURS AND MILES of drift. Get it? A
cloud and a contrail are the same basic components, and their attributes will be the same.
And as too the aluminum and /or barium, show me a single valid test that contains either one. Notice I said 'valid'. You can't find one if you
look on chemtrail sites. You'll find tests, taken from ground level sources without doing any background mineral profiles. Really, they have all
And the onus is on YOU to prove, not on someone to disprove. We have over 70 years of science study, peer-reviewed, multi-national, and
multi-disciplines. Everytime someone says "the science is there... read it", is a clue that you have no idea what true science is and no source
that cannot be dismissed easily with critical thinking. Critical thinking and "chemtrails" are like oil and water.
And the "global dimming" plan? Will you "chemtrailers" ever agree on the same story? There are as many "chemtrail" stories as there all
"Chemtrails" are an internet myth. It is a story which is believed by people who don't understand really basic atmospheric science, meteorology,
or aviation navigation. The "chemtrail" story says that the visible trails behind some jets are (choose any combination of the following):
* poisonous or toxic
* nobody knows, but it must be bad
The people doing "chemtrails" are:
* NWO, Illuminati, et al.
* US military, NATO, etc.
* Reptilian extra-terrestrial invaders (really)
* Anonymous "them"
"Chemtrails" are being used to:
* depopulate the world
* control the weather
* cool down the earth
* control the earth as a weapon ( example, aiming an earthquake)
* general "geo-engineering"
* dumb-down the world for easier conquest by "them"
See how silly it all sounds? What the white lines behind planes are are contrails, which have been studied extensively for decades.
Oh, dear. I"ve run into your kind before. You see the word "aerosol", and you think it means something sprayed. WRONG. An aerosol is
anything in the atmosphere that is not gaseous atmosphere. IOW, what is in the air that isn't air. Dust from the Sahara, pollution from burning
biomass in Mexico City, volcanic, all are aersols. All have nothing to do with "chemtrail" theory. To present them as such just shows you
believe what you are told, not what you read. At least not what the materials you provided clearly states.
I've actually read many of your cites before. I understand what I read. You apparently do not. None of the ones in your list support your view at
all. If you understood them when (if) you read them, you wouldn't have supplied them here for us.
Thanks for all the links and absolutely NO input on your part
After perusing several of the links provided, it appears as if you googled the word "aerosol" and linked any science paper that contained that
My interpretation of the links provided, is a way to quantify measurements of man made and natural aerosols in our atmosphere, i.e. volcanoes, methane
vents, pollution (vehicle emissions, industrial refineries, AIR TRAFFIC EMISSIONS, etc.).
Please point out ANYWHERE in the links provided, anything whatsoever that resembles "chemtrails".
Sorry to make you do your own work, but YOU presented the links, the burden of proof is on YOU.
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