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Originally posted by bagari
S&F. I think the main point of this thread was to counter those who constantly claim that the U.S. was stolen from Mexico. With the obvious lack of knowledge regarding science and grammar rampant on this site and throughout the country, a lack of historical knowledge is hardly surprising.
Originally posted by conspiracy88
Well, first off, yes you can say Mexico did start the war but they attacked US soldiers that were on their territory.
Keep in mind that what many are complaining about now is exactly what Americans were doing then. They were going onto Mexican territory and calling it their own.
"In 1848, at the conclusion of the U.S.- Mexican War, the two countries signed the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. The treaty called for Mexico to give up almost half of its territory, which included modern-day California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and parts of Colorado, Nevada, and Utah. In return, the U.S. paid $15 million in compensation for war-related damage to Mexican land.
the United States agreed to police its side of the border;
However, when the United States Senate ratified the treaty, it erased Article 10, which guaranteed the protection of Mexican land grants; Article 9, which deals with citizenship rights, was also weakened. This in turn created an anti-Mexican atmosphere that spurred the violation of their civil rights. In Texas, Mexicans were restricted from voting. In New Mexico, Mexicans were the victims of violence, while in California, laws against them were passed, some of which were known as the Greaser Laws.
At the time of the treaty, approximately 80,000 Mexicans lived in the ceded territory, which comprised only about 4 percent of Mexico’s population. Only a few people chose to remain Mexican citizens compared to the many that became United States citizens. Most of the 80,000 residents continued to live in the Southwest, believing in the guarantee that their property and civil rights would be protected. Sadly, this would not always be the case. By the end of the 19th century, most Mexicans had lost their land, either through force or fraud.
In the Chicano movement in the late 1960s, New Mexico land rights leader Reies Lopez Tijerina and his Alianza movement cited the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in their fight to regain American-seized Mexican land. In 1972, the Brown Berets youth organization also cited the treaty in their takeover of Catalina Island.
In terms of property ownership, many property rights existing under Spanish and Mexican land grants were not recognized by the United States. In California, approximately 27 percent of land grant claims were rejected; in the territory of New Mexico, some 76 percent of such claims were rejected." www.pbs.org...
Seriously, who cares. It's been over for over 150 years. Don't worry, Mexicans are not gonna be trying to take the land back. As you can see, a few tried before and it didn't get them very far. Besides, as others have already said, with what resources would they accomplish that feat even if they really wanted to? We all know our government does sneaky and unethical cr@p. It's nothing new. They do it now just as much as they did then. They bullied a less powerful country. It's not like we haven't seen them do this before Let's move on past this nonsense, it's been 150 freckin years! It's simple to accept that we did some terrible things and just move on. All countries do crummy things. I know Mexico has done some terrible things to their less powerful southern neighbors. It happens everywhere. More powerful countries bullying the less powerful.