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reply posted on 23-5-2010 @ 07:42 PM by davidgrouchy
Originally posted by RedmoonMWC
Watch the video clips. Listen to what he has to say about what they are doing in Alaska.
www.lincolncountywatch.org...


This is my impressions of a group of people who want punishment.

at minute 1:20 suddenly he says "fraud and deception"

accusations that Rape is not being procecuted

scare politicians throw them out

the rule of law



There are many issues folded into this video
notice that there is only one blue tooth at the table
and he is sitting at the head saying ''not a rule by men...''
This is a group in dire need of a communications solution like Push-to-talk.
Kind of like the old squadron radio. The channel is always open and whenever one
speaks, every phone that is on can hear it. They just seem ill equiped for the digital age.

There is one thing I really like about the video, and that is the meeting itself.
Looks like everyone had a turn to speak, and each is a decent listener.
People had notes and documents, and it was informal yet focused.


I almost expected one to break out a dungeon masters screen
and start rolling dice. ''Ok we form a party.'' But to
do what? To build a future, or slay some monsters.
A champion of greviances is just an adventurer,
but an architect is a real survivalist.
I suggest this group hire a firm to
do a study on the relationship
between city design, and rape.
With these findings the group
will be armed with clout.
And they will have a
solution in hand.
Everyone is
angry it's
broken.

Where is
the voice that
identifies the solution.
With an architecture firm one
gets analysis of the problem and
a well designed solution to solve it.
Figuring out what is wrong is most of the
battle but implimenting the solution is the real test.
Look politicians love projects like roads and lighting, it's real.


David Grouchy


reply posted on 23-5-2010 @ 08:23 PM by RedmoonMWC
Originally posted by davidgrouchy
Originally posted by RedmoonMWC
Watch the video clips. Listen to what he has to say about what they are doing in Alaska.
www.lincolncountywatch.org...


This is my impressions of a group of people who want punishment.

at minute 1:20 suddenly he says "fraud and deception"

accusations that Rape is not being procecuted

scare politicians throw them out

the rule of law



There are many issues folded into this video
notice that there is only one blue tooth at the table
and he is sitting at the head saying ''not a rule by men...''
This is a group in dire need of a communications solution like Push-to-talk.
Kind of like the old squadron radio. The channel is always open and whenever one
speaks, every phone that is on can hear it. They just seem ill equiped for the digital age.

There is one thing I really like about the video, and that is the meeting itself.
Looks like everyone had a turn to speak, and each is a decent listener.
People had notes and documents, and it was informal yet focused.


I almost expected one to break out a dungeon masters screen
and start rolling dice. ''Ok we form a party.'' But to
do what? To build a future, or slay some monsters.
A champion of greviances is just an adventurer,
but an architect is a real survivalist.
I suggest this group hire a firm to
do a study on the relationship
between city design, and rape.
With these findings the group
will be armed with clout.
And they will have a
solution in hand.
Everyone is
angry it's
broken.

Where is
the voice that
identifies the solution.
With an architecture firm one
gets analysis of the problem and
a well designed solution to solve it.
Figuring out what is wrong is most of the
battle but implimenting the solution is the real test.
Look politicians love projects like roads and lighting, it's real.


David Grouchy




Watch the vid labled solution by your response you only watched the problem vid


reply posted on 23-5-2010 @ 10:59 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
reply to post by davidgrouchy



Seasteading is a fun idea.

But let me know when anti-gravity capable of lifting entire cities into the air becomes reality...

Or maybe I'm missing your point. I know a picture speaks a thousands words and all, but your images are total science fiction.

Actually, I hope they do build those floating cities and float the ignoramous masses off into space leaving the good people to inhabit the earth.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]


reply posted on 24-5-2010 @ 11:26 AM by davidgrouchy
Originally posted by salchanra

I work very hard to better my life, my community, to mentor kids. And you call ME out saying I want doomsday, because I am a "survivalist" because I can take care of myself?



I am glad that someone has felt "called out", and has spoken up.
Of all the forums on ATS my heart is drawn to the survivalist.
The most practical, most problems solved, most like me.
I am not pleased by some of the uses I see the word
"survivalist" being put too, the worst of these is
when it is couched as being someone who
wants the end of the world to come.

Shouldn't we own this word, and
not TPTB. Shouldn't it mean
what we want it too, not
what some smear job
can make it out as.

The moment has
come for the word
survivalist to lift off the ground
and take flight. I'm nobody. Just someone
pointing out that survivalists have the most "lift"
and if anything is going to stay airborne it's them.

In way of doing this I felt that it was illustrative to show
that the word survivalist can be equal to the word sceptic.
A philosophical word that can be applied to all matters, and
not just doom and gloom scenarios. A scientific word that can
be applied to research and discovery. He is a survivalist, they will
say, because all of his experiments are proved wrong yet he continues.

That is the acme of science, is it not? The expectation of one's theory being
proved wrong and replaced. Isn't this how science advances. I feel that the
survivalist community is the most qualified to build a new civilization.
What I'm challenging, and may get me beat up, is that survivalist
are being painted as only interested in their small little group.
I don't think that is true. But unless we start to say what
survivalism means, that may be what we are called.


David Grouchy
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