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DIY Cancer Cure - This time it's personal!

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posted on May, 23 2010 @ 02:27 PM
I grew up in a fairly average middle class home. We believed the doctor knew all about health and how to fix us when we were broken. We took the pills he prescribed for us. We had a medicine cabinet!

On entering puberty at age 12 I started getting zits.

I got a lot of them. Embarrassed and irritated, I went to see our local GP (General Practioner = Local Family Doctor).

He prescribed 30mg of Oxytetracycline (antibiotic), once a day, which I faithfully took for the following 9 years.

The meds only helped a bit, I was still covered in zits, face, chest and back, but if I stopped taking the oxytet, the condition worsened. I was hooked.

At age 19, I developed an interest in diet. At age 21 I got a bit wiser, stopped the meds, made a few changes to my lifestyle and my skin was clear about a week later.

I came off medication I'd been taking for 9 years and the problem I'd used the meds for went away in less than a week.

It was my first vivid experience of the 'medical establishment' getting it totally and utterly wrong. It wasn't the last.

After one or two additional incidents, I decided to stop visiting doctors (over 2 decades ago) and my health has got much better since.

I stopped going to the dentist shortly after, and my teeth stopped needing 'fixing'.

Since then, I've 'self healed' everything that's come along for me and my kids - I'm a certified, card carrying member of DIY Health

As a side effect, I nolonger have any fear of illness and disease.

My adventure in natural healing took me down many strange and rather radical tunnels - many had no cheese, literally as well as figuratively

After about a decade, I came across the writings of herbalist Dr. Richard Schulze. The first line of his that I read stated "99% of all natural healers you will ever meet are a bunch of pussies. They use impotent healing modalities, watered down remedies and will kill you with their incompetence just as surely as the doctors with their knives and chemicals" (paraphrased).

He helped me develop a healthy level of skepticism that I'd been lacking so far in my experiences, but also, Richard Schulze made the complex minefield of alternative health and diet, both simple and basic.

In my early 30's, I used Schulze's remedies and herbs to help a couple of close friends. One had a liver tumor, the other had chronic failure of adrenals and a whole host of other unpronouncable issues that kept her in bed 4-5 days a week.

The friend with the liver tumor was tumor free after a couple of months, the other friend, who had retired from champion show jumping due to her incapacity, was back on a horse within a week of beginning 'treatment'.

A couple of years later, I self healed a completely ruptured achilles tendon in less than 30 days. Every doctor I consulted told me I would never walk again without surgery - I was playing squash 6 weeks after their prognosis'!

So now my mum has just been diagnosed with bowel cancer.

The consultant oncologist wants to burn her, remove part of her colon and attach a plastic bag to her stomach for her to defecate into for the rest of her life. Of course, as he can't offer any guarantees, that may not be a particularly long time!

She said no, thank goodness, and has decided to take one of the infinite number of natural routes back to health.

I decided to start this thread because it seems my mum isn't the only ATS member or ATS relative with cancer. I've followed many health threads here, including cries for help with cancer, and notice that many members are quick to dismiss natural healing as the prime healing modality and urge the 'patient' to follow through with the poisoning, the burning and the cutting.

I've read post after post from the 'science gallery' crying for peer reviewed, double blind studies done by prestigious institutions, (which of course will almost certainly never be conducted on unpatentable healing modalities), whilst blindly ignoring real people with real stories of 'healing miracles' as useless and irrelevant anecdotal evidence, not worthy of serious consideration.

Well, here's the bottom line: when you're dying of cancer, reading a peer reviewed scientific study probably isn't going to save your life, but the advise from a loving and caring friend, who's been there, done it and survived it ... well now, that's a different story!

So I'm putting this out there, and asking if this would be of help or of real use to any ATS member or relative?

I'm offering to document the progress of my mum's healing, the modalities we are using, and the results as best as we can ascertain them as we go along. I can ask her if she'd blog her own personal experiences too.

The purpose is not to debate the validity of alternative cancer treatments or discuss studies and theories, it is to demonstrate what it takes in real life to heal oneself from an allopathic death sentence.

I have a preliminary course set out for mum, but am always open to new information, if you'd care to post it. Thanks.

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 03:00 PM
Why do nations with widespread access to Western cancer therapies have higher rates of survival than nations without such access?

[edit on 5/23/2010 by VneZonyDostupa]

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 03:09 PM
reply to post by RogerT

RogerT.....thank you so much for offering to share this with us...this is such important stuff that the more people see it, read it and try to understand the obvious, the better. I too am suspicious of the medical establishement then their "cures" and anything that challenges them and us is vital.

Please keep us updated if you can with how things go with your mum, and I know she will be just fine. I have too many stories I could recount here about natural self healing, and I don't want to steal your thread...
Thank god she said no to them and their butchery.

Star and a flag from me, and I will be reading of course.

Cait x

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 03:13 PM
hurd dat b17 and sweet, sweet (well, spicy) capsaicin, along with true hydration will do the trick.

edit: here, i'll try to sound more coherent.

mash up a ton of apple seeds, and i mean really mash them up good, then add them into a food processor with ghost chiles, garlic (try to do equal amounts in volume), and grape seed oil (as muhc as you need), and a little fortified and salted YELLOW butter, and until everything is a nice spreadable substance.

get some whole wheat bread (no white bread. ever.), and throw on a steamed or boiled cactus leaf or some kind of cactus meat. add the spread wherever you like, try to get a big teaspoon of it though. garnish with some cactus seeds, and have a big glass of home distilled water with it, from a nice crystal glass.

eat it once a day for like a week, see what happens, the start upping how many times a day you eat it. hope your momz likes spicy stuff. too bad if she doesn't, haha.

(the forum post options on this website are so annoying)

[edit on 23-5-2010 by shagreen heart]

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 03:27 PM
reply to post by RogerT
You want to gamble your mother's life on the advice of an internet community? A community that *probably* has some members that don't have yours or your mother's best interests at heart?

This is an extreme example. Still, it highlights the risks you run when advice is sought from strangers.

If you don't trust your doctor's advice, seek a second, third or fourth opinion. Cancer's as old as time and has never been as treatable as it is now. Medical science can only attempt to tackle it. Nevertheless, it has a higher success rate than any other treatment.

I'm a stranger. You can't trust me. Research the scientific literature to gain a broader understanding and draw your own conclusions. Ultimately, it's your mother's decision to make with your support.

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 04:17 PM
reply to post by RogerT

Good luck mate. All the best for you and your Mum.

Hang in there and stay strong.

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 04:39 PM
I lost both my sister and father to cancer. When they asked their doctors whether they should alter their diets, the doctors seemed mystified and told them to eat whatever they want, it would make no difference. Such idiocy!!

Cancer rule # 1: Cancers are inefficient metabolizers and therefore crave simple sugars for energy; deprive them of it and it slows them down.

Cancer rule # 2: Maintain a healthy immune system. Chemo and radiation both wipe out your immune system and fill your body with toxins, in the hopes that the cancer cells will die before the rest of you does. But one of the main reasons untreated cancer patients die of cancer is because their immune systems have simply stopped fighting it. With a truly healthy immune system, cancers can be convinced to kill themselves thru aptosis, but the treatments vary from cancer to cancer. But key here is to boost your immune system, and sugar tends to suppress it.

Cancer rule # 3: Try to eat plenty of fresh, uncooked foods. White blood cells perform two functions, protecting the body from foreign infection and producing enzymes for digestion. If you eat cooked foods, those foods have had their natural enzymes destroyed so your body must use its energy to produce enzymes to digest the foods. All natural foods have natural enzymes in them that can naturally break down the foods, but heat destroys these enzymes. By eating uncooked foods, your white blood cells can concentrate on immune system duties alone instead of having to pitch in and help with enzyme production.

I had three specialists tell me that my 9-yr.-old Golden Retriever with fibrosarcoma needed laser surgery to entirely remove her lower jaw, and that even after the $4000 surgery, she would only live another 6 months at most. Well, 3 months after that diagnosis, my dog was cancer-free with her lower jaw intact. I cured her and all I payed for was the cost of cabbage, broccoli, garlic (which can kill many breeds), peanut butter, bee propylis and bee pollen, and a couple visits to a naturopathic vet. She lived another seven years and died of old age.

Best of luck with your mom!!!

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 05:18 PM
Good on ya' for looking into alternative treatments, but as K pointed out, get 2nd opinions - at least.

Hopefully my example will shed some light on this...

A little while back I had an issue with my right testicle ('nut' from here on out) began to have a locaized pain and also swelled up something awful.

I was into alternative methods and found them to be of 'higher' quality than the standard methodologies used. So, I went to see a rather well known Doctor who specialized in alternative methods...long story short - he diagnosed it as Epididymitis (a bacteria build up on a nut).

Prescribed me some Cipro, and the swelling went down but the pain did not go away...having just enough common sense at the time, I went to Kaiser (did I say common sense..?) for a 2nd opinion - they did an ultra sound only to find a rather large tumor on my nut...

I was on the cutting board the next day and had a right side Orchiectomy as well as about 11cm off the cord. They found that the tumor was indeed malignant (Teratoma)...

Now, on the other side of the proverbial coin, I was told I would need to chemo to ensure the cancer was 'erradicated' as my WBC count was high...

So, wanting to stay as far away as possible from the standard methodology used for most cancer patients (at least here in N. America), I went back to the Doctor who mis-diagnosed it initially...

He knew my lifestyle habits to include smoking a lot of weed at the time - he told me to lay off it completely for a month, and then have them do my blood work again...this upset the doctor handling my case at Kaiser at first, but he got over it - especially since 30 days later my count was 0.

Now, it's just a different Chapter
in my life that I look back on ocassionally to make sure I maintain perspective...

So - check both sides of the house before committing - that's all... and good luck.

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 12:42 AM

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
Why do nations with widespread access to Western cancer therapies have higher rates of survival than nations without such access?

[edit on 5/23/2010 by VneZonyDostupa]

Gosh, is that the best you have to contribute to the thread? What a silly question! Are you a doctor

I'll assume it's rhetorical and so an inferred statement on the imagined efficacy of cut, burn poison, as assessed, evaluated and asserted by the advocates, peddlers and profiteers of the craft.

Even if that is an accurate statement (no source posted to peer reviewed scientific study from prestigious institution LOL - how would one even measure something like that?), there are so many logical fallacies I'm not sure where to start.

Instead of me doing your thinking for you, I'll respond in kind:

Why do nations with widespread access to widescreen plasma TV's have higher rates of survival (fact or more fiction?) than nations without such access?

[edit on 24/5/10 by RogerT]

[edit on 24/5/10 by RogerT]

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 01:25 AM

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by RogerT
You want to gamble your mother's life on the advice of an internet community? A community that *probably* has some members that don't have yours or your mother's best interests at heart?

This is an extreme example. Still, it highlights the risks you run when advice is sought from strangers.

If you don't trust your doctor's advice, seek a second, third or fourth opinion. Cancer's as old as time and has never been as treatable as it is now. Medical science can only attempt to tackle it. Nevertheless, it has a higher success rate than any other treatment.

I'm a stranger. You can't trust me. Research the scientific literature to gain a broader understanding and draw your own conclusions. Ultimately, it's your mother's decision to make with your support.

I know you mean well bro' and please don't take this as a personal attack, but this is exactly the kind of post that inspired me to start the thread.

You either didn't read my OP very thoroughly or you just didn't 'get' it.

We gamble our lives every day, each time we cross the street. It's all about odds

Some think that poisoning, burning or cutting pieces out of other people's bodies will increase the odds - most believe what they are told.

I have learned through both experience and also research, that regardless of how well intentioned allopathic medical individuals are, for the most part they are extremely ignorant of health and how to assist in the healing of the body.

As an industry, cancer allopathy is barbaric and IMO a dismal failure.

The Contribution of Cytotoxic Chemotherapy to 5-year Survival in Adult Malignancies" set out to accurately quantify and assess the actual benefit conferred by chemotherapy in the treatment of adults with the commonest types of cancer.
All three of the paper's authors are oncologists. Lead author Associate Professor Graeme Morgan is a radiation oncologist at Royal North Shore Hospital in Sydney; Professor Robyn Ward is a medical oncologist at University of New South Wales/St. Vincent's Hospital. The third author, Dr. Michael Barton, is a radiation oncologist and a member of the Collaboration for Cancer Outcomes Research and Evaluation, Liverpool Health Service, Sydney. Prof. Ward is also a member of the Therapeutic Goods Authority of the Australian Federal Department of Health and Aging, the official body that advises the Australian government on the suitability and efficacy of drugs to be listed on the national Pharmaceutical Benefits Schedule (PBS) – roughly the equivalent of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Their meticulous study was based on an analysis of the results of all the randomized, controlled clinical trials (RCTs) performed in Australia and the US that reported a statistically significant increase in 5-year survival due to the use of chemotherapy in adult malignancies. Survival data were drawn from the Australian cancer registries and the US National Cancer Institute's Surveillance Epidemiology and End Results (SEER) registry spanning the period January 1990 until January 2004. Wherever data were uncertain, the authors deliberately erred on the side of over-estimating the benefit of chemotherapy.

Even so, the study concluded that overall, chemotherapy contributes just over 2 percent to improved survival in cancer patients!Yet, despite the mounting evidence of chemotherapy's lack of effectiveness in prolonging survival, oncologists continue to present chemotherapy as a rational and promising approach to cancer treatment.
Journal of clinical oncology.

A review of 600 cancer patients who died within 30 days of treatment found that in more than a quarter of cases it actually hastened or caused death.

In other words, one could infer that there's a 2% chance allopathy will help you and a 27% chance it will kill you - nice odds!

As for taking advice from the internet ...

I already made it clear in my OP that I share Dr. S's evaluation that "99% of natural healers are incompetent pussies".

However, whilst reading another Cancer thread here on ATS, I was exposed for the first time to Rick Simpson's work on cancer and hemp oil.

This has led me to further research and guess what, the plant has quite a history in medicine until it was demonized in the '30's.

I now have another arrow to my quivver, another tool for the box that is already overflowing with proven, time tested CANCER CURES that involve no insidious poisoning, burning or cutting.

So listening to strangers on the internet can pay off big time.

As a final shot - again not personal - advising someone to get a second and third opinion from the same club of health ignorant, indoctrinated (wonder where that word comes from lol) drug peddlers is not as good advice as you believe it to be.

Opinion 1: cut and burn
Opinion 2: poison and burn
Opinion 3: cut and burn and poison
Opinion 4: burn first, then cut, then poison ....

All the best

[edit on 24/5/10 by RogerT]

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 01:35 AM
Best of luck to you and your mom.

I must say I agree with you. I know people who are in and out of doctors all the time. It's like a slippery slope. Antibiotics for this, antibiotics for that. All it does is ruin the immune system.

Now there ARE some things that should be taken care of by someone who knows what they are doing. But for the most part people are too reliant on doctors.

[edit on 24-5-2010 by Judohawk]

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 01:48 AM
reply to post by happygolucky

Thanks for sharing your personal story.

I concur, if you are going to hand over responsibility for your health and healing to the allopathic medical establishment (the biggest single cause of death in the USA today), then you should indeed get several opinions.

Doctors are not just occasionally fallible, they are generally universally ignorant in virtually all matters of health and healing. Admitted they are well versed in anatomy and drug peddling, but that isn't the same thing.

So if you want to get healing, you will have to get far more than a second opinion from allopathy to increase the slim odds of getting decent health advice.

Sorry you lost one of your nuts. Unnecessary IMO, but glad you are now ok. Good job you had 2 to start with

[edit on 24/5/10 by RogerT]

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 01:50 AM
reply to post by RogerT

I've posted about this on the recent cayenne pepper cancer thread (which you should read in it's entirety for the breadth and depth of the discussion), but I believe it would be worth your while to do some research and reading about Essiac.

I've personally witnessed two separate people recover from cancer completely by taking it. Note that that is hardly statistical proof, and I am not able to guarantee results. But I was extremely impressed, as their experiences matched what I had read thousands have experienced taking it - even while undergoing standard allopathic cancer therapy at the same time.

The most important thing is to get freshly dried herbs. The recipe is publically known, and any source will do just fine. In the past, I have used, otherwise known as the Tehachapi Tea Company. it is run by an R.N. who has devoted her professional life to making quality Essiac available. I don't work for her, and I get no kickbacks. If you find a better deal on Essiac somewhere else, take it.

But do as much reading as you can, and don't give up!

Best wishes and God bless.

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 01:56 AM
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Thanks. I have read the pepper thread in its entirety, which inspired me to start this one.

I read your post and immediately looked at the site you linked and essiac.

I have yet to check if the herbal tinctures and teas we are using contain the same herbs, but will do so in due course.

As I said in the post above, there are infinite avenues available once you take back the responsibility for your health and healing, release the fear, ignorance and arrogance associated with allopathy, and embrace the power and simplicity of nature.

Thanks for you thoughts, intentions and generosity.

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 05:47 AM
RogerT: First of all, good luck for your mother and I praise your guts.
I will follow this thread as long as you keep us posted of her progress.
I have never had any contact with cancer and I certainly can't guarantee any results but, i do reasearch alot, and this is what i've come up with:

(1) Grate one habaneros pepper each day, putting it on bread
(2) Grate two cloves of garlic each day, putting them on bread
(3) 1-2 Tablespoons of Emulsified cod liver oil each day.
TwinLabs makes some wonderfully flavored cod liver oil. I used the cod liver oil because I was not losing any weight or dealing with fluid retention. If I had either of those conditions, I would have used evening primrose oil instead of the emulsified cod liver oil.
(4) Smother the grated garlic and habaneros peppers with real butter and eat it. No margarines of any type, including Smart Balance, etc.

DIY cure (takes a little bit to load)

And here's some more links I think you should take a look at, which tries to confirm that it does creat good results.

And the healing hemp oil cure.

PS: I am not into debate whether natural healing is better than western medicine, I'm only providing links for RogerT because he already made that decision.

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 05:55 AM
i'm really sorry but scientists and cancer therapy wards already record information on what people use and don't use to treat cancer, if there was any real link to food and killing cancer cells we would know about it.

Good luck to you if it works but I'm just saying never turn down any type of treatment you can get.

we are all born with cancer inside us, it's just what awakens it.

like cyanide in cigarettes it breaks down the DNA structure of of our body and weakens all the links to where diseases cannot be controlled as they should.

[edit on 24-5-2010 by jumpingbeanz]

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 06:35 AM

Originally posted by jumpingbeanz
i'm really sorry but scientists and cancer therapy wards already record information on what people use and don't use to treat cancer, if there was any real link to food and killing cancer cells we would know about it.

Good luck to you if it works but I'm just saying never turn down any type of treatment you can get.

Not sure what you are sorry about, but thanks for the apology anyway.

If someone is in a cancer therapy ward, then they are not fully engaged in natural healing. So any information gathered from medical patients in medical institutions is not only incomplete, but pretty much guaranteed to be off the mark.

Was your statement personal speculation, an assumption believed to be truth, something you saw on TV or just one of those things 'everyone knows'?

As for not turning down 'any type of treatment you can get':

A big part of healing the body from dis-ease is to turn down every other 'treatment' that is offered, except for the ones that will help you to heal.

Blindly accepting any treatment offered from the allopathic medical industry is one way to add a count of one to the mortality statistics of western societies biggest cause of death - allopathic medicine.

Blindly accepting any treatment offered from the natural camp is most likely to end up as a harmless waste of time and effort at best, or at worst, a waste of what little time remains for you to actually do something that works.

Personally I prefer to use discernment, and choose only to accept modalities/treatments that have a proven track record of not only encouraging health and healing, but doing no harm in the process.

You can choose to throw caution to the wind and accept all offered treatments as you like, that is the beauty of accepting personal responsibility for your own health, however, please be aware that advising others to do the same may not be the most appropriate or responsible thing to do, especially given the fear most have regarding illness and the lack of experience they have with being their own authority.


[edit on 24/5/10 by RogerT]

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 06:37 AM

My grandfather was diagnosed with cancer. They did the whole poison, cut and burn thing. Gave him 2 weeks to live and sent him home to die.

He found a decrepit copy of the book " World Without Cancer - The Story of Vitamin B17" by G. Edward Griffin, and decided to give Vitamin B17 a try. BTW, the book claims that cancer is a vitamin deficiency.

Basically, eat a few apricot seeds a day (either ground up or chewed).
Please note that I said a few fruit seeds/pips. NOT a whole barrel full of the stuff!

He lived for an additional 2 years.

Apparently the stuff works better if you haven't been burned, dissected and poisoned first.

For all those who are going to complain that apricot seeds (and fruit seeds in general) are going to poison you due to the cyanide content - my grandmother and uncle have been eating one table spoon of ground up apricot seeds per day with their breakfast for the last 10 years and are still alive. My grandmother is 83 this year and still terrorises the neighbours, drives herself places etc.

I'm not sure how readily available this book is anymore, but I did manage to obtain a copy off the internet as well, since someone made off with my original hard copy.

Try this link:

I highly recommend this book. It's not just about Vitamin B17, but also about the big pharma companies making money out of cancer.

Disclaimer (for those who need it): This is a personal anecdote. The author is in no way a professional medical practitioner and is not providing medical advise to anyone.

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 06:39 AM
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posted on May, 24 2010 @ 06:42 AM
Thanks for that.

I'll check up on apricot seeds.

We have 2 apricot trees in the garden, so getting some fresh, organic seeds should be simple enough.

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