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Originally posted by Spazzy
i agree that it's not a contest. but if you can't agree that these debates are important then why are you here? if you think this is all meaningless banter then maybe you shouldn't participate.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Spazzy
i agree that it's not a contest. but if you can't agree that these debates are important then why are you here? if you think this is all meaningless banter then maybe you shouldn't participate.
Did you say "debate"? Sure. Would you care to take this topic to the Debate Forum(DF)? Structured debate, judged but DF members.
Originally posted by TaxpayersUnleashed
Put him in the ground.
Originally posted by Mesmerizer
everyone time out!!
1. we don't know if the man is even illegal so the article analysis is sensationalist.
2. those saying this is racist are resorting to race bait. it's not fair to accuse those who are worried about this as being racist . that's like saying those who are up in arms over the catholic pedo scandal are antireligious.
3. those using this story to paint all illegals along with the suspect are as bad as those who bash all catholics cuz of the priests.
i think everyone is wrong here./ those defending the man and accusing those who are upset as being racists and those who are accusing the man and illegals without even knowing if he is illegal.
its also not fair to say those who are upset are exploiting the child. its human to be outraged at stuff. its not a slam against the illegals just like it shouldnt be a slam at catholics or to say those who are upset are exploiting the victims.
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Originally posted by TaxpayersUnleashed
Put him in the ground.
well we wouldn't need to deport him
if that occurred.
However, I am fearful for the next
victim from laws being unenforced.
Originally posted by daskakik
The sad part is that even if laws are enforced there will always be victims. That was the point of the high school drop out versus high school graduate example. The laws don't turn predators into lambs. Never have never will.
Originally posted by Spazzy
reply to post by daskakik
we realize that dask. that's not the point. the point is that FACTS are important. whether or not a particular fact makes your stomach heat up makes no difference as to it's status as a fact.
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by Spazzy
reply to post by daskakik
we realize that dask. that's not the point. the point is that FACTS are important. whether or not a particular fact makes your stomach heat up makes no difference as to it's status as a fact.
Yes but putting something out there as a fact when it isn't confirmed is misleading even if it turns out to be true.
No one is siding with the perp but the way the thread was titled and the remark made by the OP on unconfirmed info.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Which is more disgusting...the rape or the use of that rape to push an agenda???
Originally posted by Spazzy
yeah that's true but you have to remember back to the opening few posts. it wasn't only my side of the argument that was considering him to be illegal. so don't use this as another excuse to point a finger.
Originally posted by maria_stardust
It is ridiculous to consider that a rape committed by an illegal immigrant is any more heinous than a rape committed by legal citizen. The fact remains that a young girl was raped and to use her traumatic experience as an excuse to promote a political agenda is abhorrent.
Rape is not a crime committed exclusively by illegal immigrants.
This thread reeks as a pathetic excuse to bash an already demonized segment of society with impunity.