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Originally posted by maria_stardust
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Do you see how his illegal status could make this whole situation worse for this girl and her family? Yes, even worse than if she were raped by a legal citizen.
On the contrary. I sincerely doubt that this family is wishing that if their child was going to be raped it would be altogether better that the rapist be a legal citizen. Madness lays down that line of reasoning.
That's no different than saying that a rapist that is wealthy and comes from a good, upstanding family is worse than one who comes from a blue-collar background.
Or better yet:
The rape of this child is worse because the rapist is _________ instead of ___________.
That is just insane.
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
I have a 12 year old daughter. I would be devastated for her if this happened to her. I would be devastated that this would affect her for the rest of her life. I would likely be in the "what if" mode too... what if I hadn't dropped her off, what if her brother had been with her, what if I'd have bought her mace to take with her, what if, what if, what if...
If this man is proved to be in this country illegally, and the authorities did nothing about his being here illegally, honestly, I'm not sure I could contain what little composure I would have left. It's one thing to play the what if's in your mind, as a parent, when you can't be sure that even if you HAD done all of those things, things wouldn't have turned out the same anyway. It's quite another to KNOW FOR CERTAIN that, had the authorities done their job and deported this man, your child would not have experienced this devastation.
Originally posted by prionace glauca
Oh wait how about that individual who was DEPORTED 9 Times only to come back and rape someone in the USA & tarnish their life for ever.
Originally posted by maria_stardust
It is ridiculous to consider that a rape committed by an illegal immigrant is any more heinous than a rape committed by legal citizen. The fact remains that a young girl was raped and to use her traumatic experience as an excuse to promote a political agenda is abhorrent.
Rape is not a crime committed exclusively by illegal immigrants.
This thread reeks as a pathetic excuse to bash an already demonized segment of society with impunity.
Originally posted by prionace glauca
I still can not believe that there are individuals standing up for these criminals. Do your country a favor, drop your citizenship at your nearest consulate office and move to a country where illegal activities are promoted.
Originally posted by Spazzy
i think you're the one that's ridiculous. i bet you wouldn't use this pathctic argument when it comes to gun control would you? or how about abortion?
i'm sure your tune would change to suit whatever need you deem emotionally worthy for the moment. an illegal raping a child is every bit as relevent as where firearms that kill people come from.
Originally posted by Spazzy
your argument is ridiculous. how could his illegal status not be relevant?
Originally posted by maria_stardust
My point within this thread is that ALL rapes are abhorrent regardless of the rapist's legal status.
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by Spazzy
your argument is ridiculous. how could his illegal status not be relevant?
So if a high scool drop out rapes a little girl does that make him being a high school drop out relevent?
Laws should be enacted so that no one is allowed to drop out of high school so we could stop rape?
Originally posted by daskakik
So if a high school drop out rapes a little girl does that make him being a high school drop out relevent?
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Yes, all rapes are abhorrent but the rapist's legal status does have an impact on how well all those involved (the victim and the victim's family) heal from it which is really the main issue in a rape to begin with.
[edit on 23/5/2010 by Iamonlyhuman]
Originally posted by Spazzy
yes that's exactly what it means. what isn't obvious about that? of course it's relevant it's a total no brainer.
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Do you see how his illegal status could make this whole situation worse for this girl and her family? Yes, even worse than if she were raped by a legal citizen.
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Originally posted by daskakik
So if a high school drop out rapes a little girl does that make him being a high school drop out relevent?
dropping out of High School is NOT illegal
at least it's not in NC if you're over 16 yrs old.
So that example is quite moot.
Being in the country without permission
IS ILLEGAL.
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by Spazzy
yes that's exactly what it means. what isn't obvious about that? of course it's relevant it's a total no brainer.
But what happens when you have the same number of rape cases but know they are commited by high school graduates. Guess that would prove that being a high school drop out really was irrelevant.
Originally posted by Spazzy
did you really just speak for the family of a supposed rape victim and apply that to reality? do you honestly believe the status of a rapist will not be imbedded in the minds of the parents of teh LITTLE GIRL that was raped?
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Yes, all rapes are abhorrent but the rapist's legal status does have an impact on how well all those involved (the victim and the victim's family) heal from it which is really the main issue in a rape to begin with.