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Presidente Calderon wants your Guns!

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posted on May, 22 2010 @ 11:03 PM
Mr Calderon's visit to the United States caught alot of flak for his slamming Arizona's new immigration law. But only a few news outlets are reporting what else he wanted, namely your guns.

Calderon's message was simple: the reason that Mexicans are losing the drug war is because the U.S. assault weapons ban expired. Yet, Calderon's understanding of what the Federal Assault Weapons Ban is no more accurate than it is about Arizona's new immigration law.

with all due respect, if you do not regulate the sale of these weapons in the right way, nothing guarantees that criminals here in the United States with access to the same power of weapons will not decide to challenge American authorities and civilians."-Calderon

Read the whole story here.
Fox News

After reading this story I have decided that Mr. Calderon needs to do one of three things:

1. Study American Law, since it's evident he doesn't know what he's talking about.
2. Mind his own business.
3. Since he has no understanding of our Constitutional freedoms and rights he could probably run for the House of Representatives as a Socialist Democrat for the state of Connecticut and win.

please don't circumvent the censors.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by gallopinghordes]

posted on May, 22 2010 @ 11:51 PM
I believe Mr. Calderon is formulating his opinions based under two misconceptions.

First, Mexico is not losing to drug dealers because they are being out-gunned, they are losing because they are being out-spent. Drug dealers pay politicians, lawyers, cops, military, and even low level thugs much more money than the government does. This will continue to be the case until the drug dealers run out of money. The drug dealers will not run out of money until you remove the high profits they make from thier products.

Second, I guess Mr. Calderon can be excused for not being familiar with some segments of American history. There was a time in our past when criminals challenged law enforcement using superior firepower. That time was known as Prohibition. Criminals of that day are basically the same as the drug lords of today. Eventually, we were able to manage that situation, with a two-prong approach. First, take greater steps to insure the integrety of our law enforcers, lawyers, judges, and politicians. Do not tolerate corruption. Second, legalize and regulate alcohol. Without the high profits of bootleg liquor, overall crime droped dramatically. No more turf wars, mob hits, smugglers, etc. Also, it increased tax revenues, the government is now getting more money than mobs.

Hmmmmmm ....

[edit on 22-5-2010 by VictorVonDoom]

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 01:11 AM
Calderon's message was simple: the reason that Mexicans are losing the drug war is because the U.S. assault weapons ban expired-Fox news.

We could just as well come back and say:
Americas economy is failing because Americans are out of work because our industry will not hire because they can get cheap illegal labor.

We could say:
American's are being murdered at the rate of 25 per day because the Federal Government will not enforce immigration laws.

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 01:21 AM
All I have to say is:

"Μολὼν λαβέ" cabrón

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 01:25 AM
IMO president Calderon is saying anything and useing any excuse to sidestep any issues that may be brought up about Mexico actually encouraging illegal immigration to the United States and that their economy actually depends on money sent back to Mexico by illegals.

He's just trying to use the assault guns as a distraction from the real issue.

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 01:26 AM
AJ is pissed.

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 03:48 AM
reply to post by CanadianDream420

I am pissed too.. Obama administration officials TRIED THIS SAME TACTIC at the beginnng of his office... They were claiming the reason why Mexican drug cartels which have FULLY automatic weapons is because Americans can buy SEMI automatic weapons.

I know Liberals love to claim otherwise, but getting a fully automatic weapon is EXPENSIVE, not easy at all, and not only must you buy a permit to buy, and have a fully automatic weapon, but many American states do not allow people to buy such weapons... Yet they STILL wanted to claim it was because Americans have SEMI automatic weapons....

These people want to disarm us, once we are disarmed they can do even worse than what is happening now... Liberals, and all those Americans and people who opose to LAW ABIDDING citizens from owning weapons, you better think twice because TIME AND AGAIN when a people were disarmed, dictatorship wasn't too far off...and it is not going to be the Socialist utopia you all HOPE for...

[edit on 23-5-2010 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 10:12 AM
This is complete and total hogwash.

You and I Can't Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own

............ As the conversation progressed, it became clear that guns are as common in Mexico as tamales at Christmas. Everyone he knows, including himself, own at least one gun. And, it matters not whether it's a semi-auto or fully automatic, they're all illegal, so why stop with semi-autos? Though clearly illegal in the states in most instances, a lot of Mexicans have more firepower in terms of military weapons than we can only dream of owning here.....................

These are not the so-called "assault weapons" you can buy at the local gun shop in the U.S., but full select-fire military-issue rifles. Now, I know you want to know and are dying to ask; Did I see any U.S. military-issue weapons stolen from the U.S. military? Not a single one was marked with U.S. military markings. Everything was marked with additional foreign markings on the receiver, including M16 rifles, or they had nothing at all. I saw firearms manufactured in Europe, China, Russia and South America along with U.S. manufactured weapons. I saw rifles that looked familiar with no place of manufacture, no serial number or manufacturer's logo. The information was not removed, it was never there to begin with. I can only assume they came from illegal arms manufacturers in India or Pakistan that produce copies of weapons. It was obvious that none of these firearms came from a U.S. gun shop in Tucson or San Diego. You couldn't buy them from a gun shop in the states if you tried.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by zzombie]

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 11:38 AM
reply to post by zzombie

I agree. But you got our President standing there agreeing with him, and half of our House of rep. giving him a second standing ovation.


posted on May, 23 2010 @ 08:23 PM
A family member of mine had a pistol that was stolen from his house here in Arizona and ended up 'being used in a crime' in deep Southern Mexico. The ATF interviewed my family member and acted like it was his fault the gun ended up in Southern Mexico. They didn't seem to care that the gun was stolen from him, nor did they seem to be interested in recovering the weapon for him (even though Mexican authorities were the one's who contacted the ATF and said they had the gun). They just wanted to make him feel like a criminal for not pouring a concrete cube around his weapon. When he asked again if the ATF would try and recover his stolen pistol from the Mexican agency that was complaining to the ATF to begin with, the ATF agents laughed and bragged that the gun was most likely police issue in Mexico at this point.

This country will bend over backwards to blame it's own citizens for every international problem.

[edit on 23-5-2010 by azguyblahblah]

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 08:30 PM
I agree that the average person in the US doesn't even have access to
all out assault weapons, and most don't want one anyway.

I would suggest to Calderon, if he wants my guns, he can waddle his
fat ass up here and try to take mine from me. Let's see how bad he
wants them. We have enough crap to put up with Owama, let alone
some foreign creep that hasn't a clue as to how to run his own country.

posted on May, 23 2010 @ 08:57 PM
reply to post by endtimer

Hey buddy I couldn't agree with you more. Waddle on!

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 12:32 AM
One also has to think why are assault weapons making it across the border?
What about corrupt Mexican border officials letting them into Mexican territory?
Calderon never addresses that issue.

Same as: why are drugs making it across the border?
What about American officials letting them in?

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 12:38 AM
I know looks like he would take better care of his side of the river.

posted on May, 24 2010 @ 01:43 AM
Calderon has no CLUE just how ignorant his comments were to the people.

IT was more propaganda that the professional scumbags in the federal government just love to eat up and mop up with our tax dollars like gravy and a slice of bread.

It will be a very ugly time should the children in the 3 branches of government, and their alphabet soup agency thugs try and take our firearms. I seriously hope they realize that. Doesn't matter if it's marshal law, federal mandate, or UN garbage.

Calderon has his own issues he needs to attend to, like corruption, in his own country..

I think Sen McClintock's speech afterwards was rather... pointed in our views of Calderon's comments.

[edit on 24-5-2010 by Cygnis] fixing youtube vid

[edit on 24-5-2010 by Cygnis]

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