I saw Air Force One this morning in flight., page 2
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reply posted on 8-6-2010 @ 04:19 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by RichardPrice



Unless the other VC-25 is in PDM or down for maintenance, they fly them both on trips. One lands about 30 minutes behind the other. EVERY time that we had Air Force One come through Hickam, it was both VC-25s. When they were flying 26000 and 27000 it was always both of them. I have never seen them use another type of aircraft as the backup.

As to the fighter escort question, they only have a fighter escort when it's requested, usually by the Secret Service. As Richard said, there is are one to two (although I've seen as many as four) C-5s or C-17s (although rarely) now that go in several days ahead carrying the motorcade and the helicopters.


reply posted on 10-6-2010 @ 09:48 AM by Virgil Cain
reply to post by ZodiacFlyer



My friend and I had a similar discussion though perhaps not quite as technically informed. We both wondered if they would take Marine 1 all the way to West Point, but I can tell you that it definitely flew over Baltimore heading from the east towards DC.

Perhaps they used it to get him from wherever they landed AF1 to West Point and once he was on his way back, they simply flew Marine 1 back to DC. The problem with that is that they would need the choppers to get him from Andrew's to the White House, wouldn't they?

Either way, just thought I'd report what I saw that day...


reply posted on 11-6-2010 @ 05:28 AM by RichardPrice
Originally posted by Zaphod58
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Unless the other VC-25 is in PDM or down for maintenance, they fly them both on trips. One lands about 30 minutes behind the other. EVERY time that we had Air Force One come through Hickam, it was both VC-25s. When they were flying 26000 and 27000 it was always both of them. I have never seen them use another type of aircraft as the backup.


On every trip to London I have seen, there has been one VC-25 and a second 757 or 737, but no second 747.

Also there was the high profile VC-25 failure during Bush's (the second one) last trip to Asia when the 747 went tech and he had to complete a leg in the 757.

I have also been told that they do not like to fly the VC-25s at the same time as this puts the same wear on both airframes, and limits the time when they can do maintenace on them.
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