5/22/2010 Crop Circle Encrypted message (Need Help)

Originally posted by twentythreedom

Originally posted by Doja112
On a swedish forum one guy writes that i says "pater noster qui es in caelis"

where did that info comefrom and how did the guy decode the circle and arrive at that meaning? thanks....

(our father who art in heaven.. hmmm)

20free

I will try to translate it the best way i can. My english is not that good.

Ok he says, - the pattern is 8-bit, every piece has 2 bytes, 12 pieces is 24 bytes. One line means 1 and one missing a line means 0. If you do this in ASCI it will be "paternosterquiesincaelis"(24 letters) or "pater noster qui es in caelis" which means "The father is in the sky" or something -

He also says he started with the piece north. Used google earth to figure which piece that was north.

reply to post by Xtrozero


I see the resemblance but i still dont see what is the meaning of the CC. DNA is a very long chain right ? if we put the 12 lines one after each other i guess its not enough to have a full view of the dna strand right ?
i dont know much in this area sorry heh

reply to post by Xtrozero
well if it is in relationship to DNA,maybe a sign to tell us that their DNA has been encoded with ours and vice versa,are that our DNA makeup has been altered in someway,just thinking outside the box

Originally posted by Fedge
reply to post by Xtrozero

 

I see the resemblance but i still dont see what is the meaning of the CC. DNA is a very long chain right ? if we put the 12 lines one after each other i guess its not enough to have a full view of the dna strand right ?
i dont know much in this area sorry heh

If you could figure out the sequence you could then look for a match with the limited sequence you have.

It is a form of DNA! Unravel it and maybe someone will have found an answer to something!





Thats just my educated opinion. Each strand related to a gene that once turned on or off can stop many of the diseases that cause death in Humans. It represents where each one is place on a DNA strand and the gene affected. It also has the gene placement for for eternal life or agelessness. The second circle segment clockwise and fourth gene is misplaced according to a standard DNA formation. Maybe this is the integration of hybrid genes some people believe we have been built from!

Or its just a crop circle!


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Originally posted by Doja112

Originally posted by twentythreedom

Originally posted by Doja112
On a swedish forum one guy writes that i says "pater noster qui es in caelis"

where did that info comefrom and how did the guy decode the circle and arrive at that meaning? thanks....

(our father who art in heaven.. hmmm)

20free

I will try to translate it the best way i can. My english is not that good.

Ok he says, - the pattern is 8-bit, every piece has 2 bytes, 12 pieces is 24 bytes. One line means 1 and one missing a line means 0. If you do this in ASCI it will be "paternosterquiesincaelis"(24 letters) or "pater noster qui es in caelis" which means "The father is in the sky" or something -

He also says he started with the piece north. Used google earth to figure which piece that was north.

Which way did he read it since it does have 24 groups of 8 and each ASCII letter is made up of 8 zeros and ones, but they all start with 011 for lower case letters or 01 for upper.

reply to post by Doja112


pater noster qui es in caelis -- Latin for the prayer taught by Jesus to his followers, known in English as "The Lord's Prayer" or "The Our Father".

And that is a very interesting calling card ... time to ponder...

Originally posted by Pellevoisin
reply to post by Doja112

 

pater noster qui es in caelis -- Latin for the prayer taught by Jesus to his followers, known in English as "The Lord's Prayer" or "The Our Father".

And that is a very interesting calling card ... time to ponder...

So how is the code figured, with zero and ones I can get letters but I get V,J,Y and U,U,S for the first two circles and these letters don't fit with either your 24 letters nor the Swedish one.

Originally posted by space cadet
If you truly want to know what the message is, go to the website that is showing you the photo, check out how much they will sell you a tour for, if you go arial you can expect to pay around 3500.00 for the flyover, anyway they could hook you up with the guys who made the circle and they can tell you, I am sure they will sell the info to you, that is the whole reason they make these, to make money......

Must you post this rubbish in every crop circle thread?

What are you even doing on this website if you are going to completely ignore obvious evidence. Do you even pay attention when people reply to your trolling? 'Balls of light' ring a bell?




Guys with boards and rope, ay.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Son of Will

 

Could you tell us how you know for certain that ancient crop circles were "rudimentary"?... Did you have a camera in another life and you took pictures of such crop circles?...

The UFO phenomenon is as ancient as crop cricles and they are still using the same technology they have used for millenia as can be seen in ancient paintings.

BTW, yes there are most certainly SOME crop circles made by a few people just wanting to get fame, but on the overall I doubt they are all fake.

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Literally EVERY report of crop circles pre-1970, is what I am basing my statement on. You can't just make a claim with absolutely zero evidence (for example - crop circles are as old as the UFO phenomenon) and then expect it to be believed, let alone demand people to show proof of otherwise. Logic doesn't work that way, wishful thinking and confirmation bias does.


I am 99% certain that there is a non-human presence below, amidst, and above us. And I am 99% certain that they have been here for hundreds of thousands of years. I don't know where they come from. I won't call them aliens because for all I know, they evolved here right alongside us. There's some anomalous archaeological finds all over the place. Believe me, I'm not a casual debunker. I am a skeptic seeking the truth, not confirmation of my beliefs.

A while back, I got into a very lengthy argument with someone who claimed to make crop circles. I threw everything I had at him, magnetic anomalies, rare-earth residue, unnatural crop characteristics. That is the real juicy stuff, or so I thought. I did NOT want to lose that argument, the guy was frankly being an ***hole about it. But ultimately I did. He simply knew a lot more about it than I did, ready with a painfully logical rebuttal. There really is NO anomalous evidence, anywhere. Any claims of it, are unsubstantiated.

There are videos of balls of light... I've seen them. I've also seen them debunked, something about how the apparent size of the balls never change despite large changes in the distance between them and the camera.

So what are we left with? We KNOW that some are man-made. And it is a fact that the complexity of the designs has steadily improved since the 1970s when they really started. The evidence in favor of non-human creation does not hold up to scrutiny. There are no scientific journals, no laboratories that have independently confirmed any anomalous claim.

After looking at all sides of the argument, it is simply more logical to assume that they are all man-made. Keep in mind, that the more these formations are analyzed and considered to be the work of superintelligent beings, the more you flatter and unknowingly give credit to the very human creators of them.

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I had a little mess around, and tried to solve this. I instantly thought it was binary. And as a poster on the first page said, this is potentially "double octet" binary which represents Unicode characters. So I whipped up a little application which would convert the binary into Unicode characters for me. I read the binary data using 4 different methods. First I read outwards, going clockwise, starting from the top segment given in the diagram, even though we can't be sure this is the top. I then went counterclockwise, reading inwards. Then clockwise again, but reading inwards. And finally, I went counterclockwise again, but outwards. I'm not sure if they are in the right order, but this is what I got, maybe someone who's better at Chinese (what it seems to be) can make some sense out of it, but just remember I may have started reading from the wrong point on the circle so the symbols might not be in the right order.

01011110 11010111 00101000 10010111 01101000 10010110 01101001 11010110 00101001 10001111 01110000 10010110 01101001 11010110 00101001 11001110 00110001 11000010 00111101 11001111 00110000 10011010 01100101 10100001

흞霨陨황輩陰황츩숱켽騰ꅥ

11101001 00010100 10000101 10100110 01011001 00001100 11110011 10111100 01000011 10001100 01110011 10010100 01101011 10010110 01101001 00001110 11110000 11001011 01101011 10010110 01101001 00010110 11101001 00010100

ᓩꚅౙ볳豃鑳陫๩쯰陫ᙩᓩ
11010111 01011110 10100001 01100101 10011010 00110000 11001111 00111101 11000010 00110001 11001110 00101001 11010110 01101001 10010110 01110000 10001111 00101001 11010110 01101001 10010110 01101000 10010111 00101000

廗斡゚㷏㇂⧎槖炖⦏槖梖⢗

01111010 11101011 00010100 11101001 00010110 01101001 10010110 01101011 10010100 11110001 00001110 01101001 10010110 01101011 10010100 01110011 10001100 01000011 10111100 11110011 00001100 01011001 10100110 10000101

椖殖椎殖玔䎌夌薦

reply to post by Doja112

Ok he says, - the pattern is 8-bit, every piece has 2 bytes

Exactly as I suspected.

EDIT: I should add, that I didn't use the left and right side of each "spoke", each of the 12 segments was assumed to contain one 16 bit binary code withing it. So if I was going clockwise, I would start from the left of the top segment...however, I should try a few spokes and see what they result in...

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My second thought was what good would a dozen *odd* ASCII numbers be?

Must be some secondary transform required.

Originally posted by Chiiru

Originally posted by skeptic_al
reply to post by kdial1

 

How do you it's Encrypted?

Why not ask the Uni-Students that created it?

Firstly, you need to FIND the uni students that created it.

Has anyone come forward for this design yet?

Anyway, it sort of reminds me of this:



Of course, I'm most likely wrong. But I thought I'd throw it out there.

Nobody's going to come forward with this, unless somebody pays them
a Million bucks for a Magazine story.

But Seriously, which makes more sense, An Alien Race travelling Billions
of Miles or Humans doing it for Notoriety and possibly the chance of selling the story.

I lnow which one I'd put money on, for sure.

Originally posted by Doja112

Originally posted by twentythreedom

Originally posted by Doja112
On a swedish forum one guy writes that i says "pater noster qui es in caelis"

I don't think it can be that. If you look at each 'spoke', there is a reverse mirror of each pattern. So there are only actually 12 lots of 8 bits available.

I think the solution shown earlier, involving Euler's Identity is the more plausible.

Are there ANY videos, ANYWHERE, made by ANYBODY that show the conception on paper, the entire process from the beginning to the completion of just ONE of these circles? It would only seem normal for these people to want the publicity and fame that would come w ith the recognition. I really don't know anything about crop circles, except what I see on ATS. But I can't believe that after this many years of formations that NOBODY has really come forward and claimed the fame. Doesn't that seem odd? Is there some kind of secret club with an oath of secrecy "never tell on pain of death"?

decoded to e^(hi)pi)1=0

ALL CREDIT TO Rich Hoyle for solving this code.

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Binary-ASCII coding within the new crop picture at Wilton Windmill

01100101 e

01011110 ^

00101000 (

01101000 h

01101001 i

00101001 )

01110000 p

01101001 i

00101001 )

00110001 1

00111101 =

00110000 0

Read each 8-bit ASCII character from inside to out, starting along a double tramline which points towards a nearby windmill, using bars = 1 or spaces = 0.

Then proceed clockwise until all twelve 8-bit characters have been read.

In order to read a second duplicate set of binary digits, use bars = 0 or spaces = 1.

Three Relevant Equations

Euler Identity e^(i)pi+1=0

Crop ASCII e^(hi)pi)1=0

Crop ASCII corrected e^(hi)pi+1=0

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Here's enhanced version of the crop circle:



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It contains 8 circles within.

It's representative of the DNA sequence of the Artificial Life created by Dr Craig Venter of the J Craig Venter Institute (JCVI) in Maryland and California this week.

If the CM's told us about swine flu last year then this is truly significant enough to warrant a mention in the crops.


This Diagram of the actual process also has 12 slices of pie - perhaps somoeone with a lot of time can correlate the the two: Link to pdf

Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to post by PowerSlave

 

It had the same effect with me and then I realised ..It looks like the disc they used to use in those old music boxes.

hdebruijn.soo.dto.tudelft.nl...

Maybe it's the tune from close encounters

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This was my very first impression, too. I immediately thought of those music box discs, and I thought it might have a musical application.