Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Son of Will
Could you tell us how you know for certain that ancient crop circles were "rudimentary"?... Did you have a camera in another life and you took
pictures of such crop circles?...
The UFO phenomenon is as ancient as crop cricles and they are still using the same technology they have used for millenia as can be seen in ancient
BTW, yes there are most certainly SOME crop circles made by a few people just wanting to get fame, but on the overall I doubt they are all fake.
[edit on 23-5-2010 by ElectricUniverse]
Literally EVERY report of crop circles pre-1970, is what I am basing my statement on. You can't just make a claim with absolutely zero evidence (for
example - crop circles are as old as the UFO phenomenon) and then expect it to be believed, let alone demand people to show proof of otherwise. Logic
doesn't work that way, wishful thinking and confirmation bias does.
I am 99% certain that there is a non-human presence below, amidst, and above us. And I am 99% certain that they have been here for hundreds of
thousands of years. I don't know where they come from. I won't call them aliens because for all I know, they evolved here right alongside us.
There's some anomalous archaeological finds all over the place. Believe me, I'm not a casual debunker. I am a skeptic seeking the truth, not
confirmation of my beliefs.
A while back, I got into a very lengthy argument with someone who claimed to make crop circles. I threw everything I had at him, magnetic anomalies,
rare-earth residue, unnatural crop characteristics. That is the real juicy stuff, or so I thought. I did NOT want to lose that argument, the guy was
frankly being an ***hole about it. But ultimately I did. He simply knew a lot more about it than I did, ready with a painfully logical rebuttal. There
really is NO anomalous evidence, anywhere. Any claims of it, are unsubstantiated.
There are videos of balls of light... I've seen them. I've also seen them debunked, something about how the apparent size of the balls never change
despite large changes in the distance between them and the camera.
So what are we left with? We KNOW that some are man-made. And it is a fact that the complexity of the designs has steadily improved since the 1970s
when they really started. The evidence in favor of non-human creation does not hold up to scrutiny. There are no scientific journals, no laboratories
that have independently confirmed any anomalous claim.
After looking at all sides of the argument, it is simply more logical to assume that they are all man-made. Keep in mind, that the more these
formations are analyzed and considered to be the work of superintelligent beings, the more you flatter and unknowingly give credit to the very human
creators of them.
edit for clarity
[edit on 23-5-2010 by Son of Will]