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Originally posted by TheCoffinman
reply to post by daskakik
mexico has a population of 111,000,000+/- (1) the illegal mexican diaspora here in the us stand at 22,000,000+(2) thats about 20% therefore you've provided ATS with more pro-illegal ignorance. becasue 90% of mexicans on this world arent in mexico... not even close.
1 - en.wikipedia.org...
2 - immigrationcounters.com...
[edit on 23-5-2010 by TheCoffinman]
The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.
Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by Night Star
You have no need to defend yourself against their nonsense
they're just trying to derail and misrepresent the issue
You're not answerable to them
who are they, anyway ?
Originally posted by essanance
Stared and Flagged
It is time to take our country back and it is time for illegal aliens to stop hiding behind the race card and leave and not just Hispanics .ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS NEED TO BE REMOVED AND IT IS TIME TO SHUT THE DOOR THE WORLD HAS USED THE UNITED STATES FoR FAR TO LONG AND IT IS TIME FOR THIS COUNTRY TO WORRY ABOUT ITSELF !!!!
[edit on 24-5-2010 by essanance]
The money that illegal immigrants spend on goods and services in their local communities and around the state "reverberates throughout the whole economy, creates more jobs, more spending and more revenue," he said. "The scale of economic benefit far outweighs any costs on the fiscal side."
Dr. Capps co-authored a 2007 study on immigrants in Arkansas. The study, which was funded by the Winthrop Rockefeller Foundation, found that the total economic impact of Arkansas' 100,000 immigrants (of which 51 percent are undocumented) on the state economy is nearly $3 billion. The Texas Comptroller study found that the 1.4 million undocumented immigrants living in Texas in 2005 contributed $17.7 billion to the state economy.
Democratic leaders have proposed requiring every worker in the nation to carry a national identification card with biometric information, such as a fingerprint, within the next six years, according to a draft of the measure.
After Adolf Hitler's rise to power in 1933, the Nazis issued every person a permanent identity card. A "J" on the cover indicated that the person was Jewish. Each Jewish man's name was prefaced with "Israel" and each woman's name with "Sarah." Permanent yellow armbands were issued at a later time.
- Almost half of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. stayed after their visas expired, according to a 2006 estimate by the Pew Hispanic Center.
- About 6 million people come into the U.S. each year on non-immigrant visas, according to the U.S. Department of State.
- Since 2007, an estimated 300,000 individuals per year have stayed after their visas expired, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
- From 2006 to 2009, federal officials developed a priority list of about 46,000 people believed to be in the U.S. after their visas expired, according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Of those, 1,800 were apprehended.
It sends a shiver down my spine that a law like this will "REQUIRE AMERICAN CITIZENS" to carry their papers to prove they are citizens.
Originally posted by FiatLux
So then your saying, if I get stopped for a traffic violation, the police dare not check to see if I have insurance, VIA MY INSURANCE PAPERS or if my drivers license is valid AND NOT FRAUDULENT?
The "reasonable suspicion" part would be normal, in the fact that this person has no valid insurance or valid drivers license. And race wouldn`t have a thing to do with it. They all would be checked.
Can you please show me in this law, where it allows the police to stop anyone on a "whim", just to confirm their citizenship? Please do show me this if I have missed that part.
Where in the Fourth Amendment does it say that breaking the law by not having citizenship documentation is ok and should be over looked?
How will anyone be able to tell if that person is legal or not, if they aren`t allowed to be checked out?
And if they are legal, what is there to worry about? If you check out ok, your on your merry way.
Originally posted by Night Star
Originally posted by TheChemist187
How lazy are you that your not even working? Really your only excuse is the mexicans took my job. And if your state passes this you say maybe I can find a job? So tell me what do you do now, how do you buy things? Do you just sit online all day and watch tv?
Originally posted by Night Star
Wow! You just made my day!!!! Rhode Island is in there! Whoo Hoo! So happy! Maybe I can find a job soon.
I am living off my savings. My busband is recieving disability due to diabetes complications. He lost a leg and is now learning how to walk with a prosthetic. I have an elderly mother that lives downstairs from me. I do not watch television as we have no reception and no cable. I have only had a computer for like 5 years and it is my only source of news and entertaintment. We live a simple life, have never owned a new car or a home of our own. I have only had a cell phone for a year and use it for emergencies only. To save money, I shop in second hand and dollar stores, clip coupons etc.
What do I do? I help my Mother by doing her housework as well as my own, I spend time helping my neice by watching her 2 year old son. I help my husband when he needs me. I make jewelry and will sell it in consignment in shops etc.
You assume I am lazy. You assume I am only blaming mexicans. Think what you will. Here is what has been happening with my job search...
They tell me thay are sorry but their workers just went down to 4 day work weeks and they arn't hiring right now.
They say I am sorry but we just laid off a lot of people.
If I am not qualified and tell them I am willing to learn, They tell me experienced only.
Some factory jobs require you to be bilingual. I don't learn languages very well.
Most places just tell you they arn't hiring right now.
Some jobs that I could do if they were to hire me were just too far to travel to. I cannot afford to move.
Some places I couldn't apply to because you had to lift up to 50 pounds.
Anyway, that's how it's been. I really don't care what you think because you are not interested in debate, you just want to call me lazy.
Originally posted by FiatLux
It looks to me like you are just looking for excuses to aid the illegals. What gives me that thought? Because, what you can`t find in this law, you just read into it what you think it will be. Like this....."I said, "virtually on a whim." That is my personal opinion and appraisal of this legislation". It doesn`t say that they can do this, but yet, you only think they will do it.
Or, how about this. I stated to you..."How will anyone be able to tell if that person is legal or not, if they aren`t allowed to be checked out?". Your responce..."Good question. I don't have an answer to it. All I can do is state my own opinion". How about an opinion with an answer to the problem, and not an opinion that is based on what you think may happen or feel may happen?
Is this why people are all POed about this law? Because they "think" it says these things?