This thread is gonna be OUT THERE
, and a combination of paranormal, quantum/nano/superstring theory, Enlightenment/Advaita Vedanta philosophy,
and physics but I'll back it best I can with clear personal experiences. I guarantee many, in fact most, people will say this is just crazy but I'm
really hoping a few scientists, mystics, and philosophers stick around to brainstorm it out.
* It's a long thread with a lot of background; the theory is at the start of the second post *
A bee sees in ultraviolet, a frequency that exists around us that we humans can't physically see. A dog hears a dog whistle a sound that is beyond
what normal human ears can pick up - but the sound does exist.
Since I was a small kid I have been able to go Out of Body [OBE] at will - basically astral traveling. I was never taught this in no one in my family
knows much about it (except they thought I was crazy). There have been two times I thought I might be crazy, to be honest, but I've always tested
things scientifically to be sure these weird abilities I have are real.
*** TIME OUT ***
Scientific Test Time
Here's how I verified to myself that astral travel and my OBEs were real.
I lived about 1/4 mile from a Target store (large department store). I couldn't see it or the road from any of my windows and had to walk a ways to
get there. To test I would go astral, remote view the parking lot of the Target store and see what cars I could tune in to. For example, I'd see a
white van, gold cadillac, and a red toyota next to each other and have a strong feel it was there - then I'd "come back" into my body and run over
to Target to verify. I was dead on accurate several times in a row!
Therefore - not crazy, nothing to see here, move on with discovering metaphysics.
If you're already calling B.S. please just leave the thread now - its not for you; you're not going to make any difference to me by ragging on me -
I've been 6 years in college studying this type of thing so I can actually have some credibility in what I publish - some random person on ATS is not
gonna change my mind.
*** TIME IN ***
Having had 30+ years of practice being aware of the astral realms and various alternate frequencies of energy, such as for healing using energy
meridians (like used in acupuncture), seeing auras, astral travel, etc I've come very adept at being aware of the astral realms while remaining in my
For example I can be having a conversation with someone and notice that someone walking behind me is staring at me (feel the change in compression of
the energy field around me) or that someone is joyous/angry/etc (by sensing their aura) although I can't see them.
(This is the Advaita Vedanta part)
I've come to recognize that consciousness is a field that encompasses all... literally everything on all levels. Most people believe that
consciousness resides inside their body, and for that to change they need to either die or have an accidental or purposeful OBE. This is not the case
- your own consciousness field can be wherever you want it to be, and can be larger than your own body.
*** Example time ***
If you've driven a car for a while you come to KNOW the boundaries of your car. You KNOW that someone came really close to you without hitting you
just by feel. You can't see their bumper or your door, but you know they were only inches away. This is a GREAT example of how we expand our
consciousness to something that is outside of ourself.
*** back to "reality" ***
=> bees see in the infrared
=> dogs hear in the supersonic (?)
=> and the human energy body/consciousness can be beyond the limits of the physical body.
Still with me?? It's gonna start pushing the limits...
As I have become accustomed to having my consciousness outside of myself and in the astral realms I have become aware that other beings also inhabit
I just recently, about two months ago, began trying to communicate with some of the beings I can sense.
Although there are some things I trust, there are also things I recognize are likely my imagination. Even after all these years it's sometimes
difficult to tell for sure. Some things are also, literally untestable!
*** FIRST CONTACT ***
About 10 o'clock one night, two months back, I laid on my hammock and looked up at the stars. My family was asleep so I just relaxed and went pretty
completely out of body. I immediately sensed several crafts around the earth (typical, they are ALWAYS out there around us) and I attempted to make
contact. I did and I felt them respond! Very cool! I felt their ship come to a stop moments after and I felt the telepathic connection very similar to
what two psychic people have here on earth.
I beckoned (telepathically) for them to come my way. At this point I wasn't sure if they were 1) only in my head, 2) real in astral, or 3) astral AND
physical (like humans). I interacted with them and the astral ship ultimately landed in the street on the other side of my back fence. We interacted
for a few minutes very comfortably and although I could sense their emotional state the same way I sense auras I was unable to communicate with any
verbal or picture phenomena. This went on two more times. Since it's not the main aspect of my thread I'll stop there, not too much else
*** FOURTH CONTACT ***
I called to the beings the same way I had previosuly but this time the taller being I enacted with most was not on the ship. Important: She was
replaced by some being that seemed to look like her in shape but was NOT her and was NOT the same density!! She was like a replica with a
darker being occupying the model. Some parts were actually completely see through as though a clear plastic manequin was being used as an avatar by
some darker being.
I sent an "inquisition" to one of the other crew member beings and he seemed at peace with the situation but I knew something
wasn't quite right. I broke it off and a month went by. I didn't try again.
*** FIFTH CONTACT - SPOOKY ***
The fifth contact was not initiated by me. I was asleep and just beginning to reach a deep sleep when suddenly I awoke to THIS guy (below) peering
into my mind! The same visual area of my mind which I use to sense the astral and see auras, etc.
He may look familiar as I posted him on the "Draw an alien" thread.
I've been abducted twice in my life and have learned to not allow it to happen anymore. When this guy showed up I immediately reacted by breaking the
contact and he didn't re-initiate. Spooked me for a second because his face was close and filled my entire view! As this is sorta part of my life
however it didn't bother me much after and I respected his curiosity. I associated it to the contact I had been enacting with the other group.
*** Thanks for hanging in there - it's a long thread ***
[edit on 22-5-2010 by Thermo Klein]