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I often ask myself too how those of Earth can believe they are the only beings in this Little universe, let alone other Universes and other Worlds
unlike a Universe.
The Mind boggles....
Perhaps it is the Flesh warring against the Soul and worst of all against The Spirit of LIFE ???
Good fortune with this thread....
[edit on 21-5-2010 by The Matrix Traveller]
Are Globes that revolve in Space Inhabited?, page 1
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Topic started on 21-5-2010 @ 04:24 PM by Shadow Herder
Yes.... and the people of the earth are far from being, as you suppose, the first in intelligence, goodness, and general development. There are many
men having a high opinion of themselves who even imagine that your little globe alone, of all the countless myriads of globes around you, has the
privilege of being inhabited by reasoning beings. They fancy that God has created the universe only for them. Insensate vanity!
God has peopled the globes of the universe with living beings, all of whom concur in working out the aims of His providence. To believe that the presence of living beings is confined to the one point of the universe inhabited by us is to cast a doubt on the wisdom of God, who has made nothing in vain, and who must therefore have assigned to all the other globes of the universe a destination more important than that of gratifying our eyes with the spectacle of a starry night. Moreover, there is nothing in the position, size, or physical constitution of the earth to warrant the supposition that it alone, of the countless myriads of globes disseminated throughout the infinity of space, has the privilege of being inhabited.
Is the physical constitution of all globes the same?
"No; they do not at all resemble one another."
The physical constitution of the various worlds not being the same for all does it follow that the beings who inhabit them have different organizations?
"Undoubtedly it does; just as, in your world, fishes are organized for living in the water, and birds for living in the air."
Are the planets furthest removed from the sun stinted in light and heat, the sun only appearing to them of the size of one of the fixed stars?
Do you suppose that there are no other sources of light and heat than the sun? And do you count for nothing the action of electricity which, in certain worlds, plays a very much more important part than in your earth? Besides, how do you know that the beings of those worlds see in the same manner as you do, and with the aid of organs such as yours?
The conditions of existence for the beings who inhabit the various worlds must be supposed to be appropriate to the sphere in which they are destined to live. If we had never seen fishes, we should be at a loss to understand how any living beings could exist in the sea. So in regard to all the other worlds, which doubtless contain elements that are unknown to us. In our own earth, are not the long polar nights illumined by the electrical displays of the aurora borealis? Is it impossible that. In certain worlds, electricity may be more abundant than in ours, and may subserve, in its general economy, various important uses not imaginable by us? And may not those worlds contain in themselves the sources of the heat and light required by their inhabitants?
This q and a was answered by a spirit/alien over 1 hundred years ago.
Read more.
[edit on 21-5-2010 by Shadow Herder]
God has peopled the globes of the universe with living beings, all of whom concur in working out the aims of His providence. To believe that the presence of living beings is confined to the one point of the universe inhabited by us is to cast a doubt on the wisdom of God, who has made nothing in vain, and who must therefore have assigned to all the other globes of the universe a destination more important than that of gratifying our eyes with the spectacle of a starry night. Moreover, there is nothing in the position, size, or physical constitution of the earth to warrant the supposition that it alone, of the countless myriads of globes disseminated throughout the infinity of space, has the privilege of being inhabited.
Is the physical constitution of all globes the same?
"No; they do not at all resemble one another."
The physical constitution of the various worlds not being the same for all does it follow that the beings who inhabit them have different organizations?
"Undoubtedly it does; just as, in your world, fishes are organized for living in the water, and birds for living in the air."
Are the planets furthest removed from the sun stinted in light and heat, the sun only appearing to them of the size of one of the fixed stars?
Do you suppose that there are no other sources of light and heat than the sun? And do you count for nothing the action of electricity which, in certain worlds, plays a very much more important part than in your earth? Besides, how do you know that the beings of those worlds see in the same manner as you do, and with the aid of organs such as yours?
The conditions of existence for the beings who inhabit the various worlds must be supposed to be appropriate to the sphere in which they are destined to live. If we had never seen fishes, we should be at a loss to understand how any living beings could exist in the sea. So in regard to all the other worlds, which doubtless contain elements that are unknown to us. In our own earth, are not the long polar nights illumined by the electrical displays of the aurora borealis? Is it impossible that. In certain worlds, electricity may be more abundant than in ours, and may subserve, in its general economy, various important uses not imaginable by us? And may not those worlds contain in themselves the sources of the heat and light required by their inhabitants?
This q and a was answered by a spirit/alien over 1 hundred years ago.
Read more.
[edit on 21-5-2010 by Shadow Herder]
reply posted on 24-5-2010 @ 10:03 PM by ACTS 2:38
reply to post by Shadow Herder
You stated,
"Yes.... and the people of the earth are far from being, as you suppose, the first in intelligence, goodness, and general development"
Even if we do not use the Bible as a factor as to man's state of being, that statement is far from even possible,
First what is your measure for intelligence as even an ant has intelligence,
What is your measure for goodness, do you get to commit a certain amount of transgressions and inequities before someone is considered bad.
Because as far as I am concerned everyone is awful would lie, cheat and steal to gain something and most of us have more than once in our lives.
If general development means tech. then you have not been paying attention because we lose more information everyday then relearn it later like it is some new concept.
As to the rest of your belief
God whose name is Jesus said he created us in his image and gave us dominion over this planet.
He created the earth first before ever creating any of the other heavenly bodies.
It does not state in the creation week about any other organisms, (and I am not going to be as bold to say there are not any) but if there were they would not be as we are and not able to make it here to be of any importance.
The bible states a fact that in science agrees with that it also explains why the universe can be only 6000 years old
Pss.104
1. [2] Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
When ever a word in the bible ends in "est" or "eth" it means continually happening.
Here is a analogy:
there is a car ten miles away from you in the night on a perfectly straight road they turn on the head lights. You can actually measure the time it takes for the light to get to you.
Now take that same car put it in front of you and have them drive it backwards away from you for the same ten miles you will notice the light the whole time the light will be shining at you the whole time with no apparent time of darkness.
The bible states that the heavens are expanding as does science.
[edit on 24-5-2010 by ACTS 2:38]
You stated,
"Yes.... and the people of the earth are far from being, as you suppose, the first in intelligence, goodness, and general development"
Even if we do not use the Bible as a factor as to man's state of being, that statement is far from even possible,
First what is your measure for intelligence as even an ant has intelligence,
What is your measure for goodness, do you get to commit a certain amount of transgressions and inequities before someone is considered bad.
Because as far as I am concerned everyone is awful would lie, cheat and steal to gain something and most of us have more than once in our lives.
If general development means tech. then you have not been paying attention because we lose more information everyday then relearn it later like it is some new concept.
As to the rest of your belief
God whose name is Jesus said he created us in his image and gave us dominion over this planet.
He created the earth first before ever creating any of the other heavenly bodies.
It does not state in the creation week about any other organisms, (and I am not going to be as bold to say there are not any) but if there were they would not be as we are and not able to make it here to be of any importance.
The bible states a fact that in science agrees with that it also explains why the universe can be only 6000 years old
Pss.104
1. [2] Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
When ever a word in the bible ends in "est" or "eth" it means continually happening.
Here is a analogy:
there is a car ten miles away from you in the night on a perfectly straight road they turn on the head lights. You can actually measure the time it takes for the light to get to you.
Now take that same car put it in front of you and have them drive it backwards away from you for the same ten miles you will notice the light the whole time the light will be shining at you the whole time with no apparent time of darkness.
The bible states that the heavens are expanding as does science.
[edit on 24-5-2010 by ACTS 2:38]
reply posted on 25-5-2010 @ 10:18 AM by Shadow Herder
Originally posted by ACTS 2:38
reply to post by Shadow Herder
You stated,
As to the rest of your belief .....
Where did I say this was my belief?
God whose name is Jesus said he created us in his image and gave us dominion over this planet.
He created the earth first before ever creating any of the other heavenly bodies.
Where are you getting this information? Do you have a source or is it a unacknowledged version of what you think?
The bible states a fact that in science agrees with that it also explains why the universe can be only 6000 years old
This is a impoverished novelty. The sources you claim this comes from should not be considered 100% factual. The 6000 years part is most commonly used to dispute or discredit ancient texts.
The bible states that the heavens are expanding as does science.
[edit on 24-5-2010 by ACTS 2:38]
I dont disagree with you.
Adam is said to have existed 4000 years b.c. This is where some people get the idea that earth is not older than that.
The man of whom, under the name of Adam, tradition has preserved the memory, was one of those who, in some one of the countries of the globe, survived one of the great cataclysms which at various epochs have changed its surface, and who became the founder of one of the races that people the earth at the present day. The laws of nature render it impossible that the amount of progress which we know to have been accomplished by the human race of our planet long before the time of Christ could have been accomplished so rapidly as must have been the case if it had only been in existence upon the globe since the period assigned as the date of Adam. The opinion most consonant with reason is that which regards the story of Adam as a myth, or as an allegory personifying the earliest ages of the world Diversity of Human Races.
reply posted on 25-5-2010 @ 10:37 PM by stereologist
reply to post by Shadow Herder
The bible explicitly has grass and fruit trees made on day 3 and then the sun on day 4. How can you have millions of years of photosynthesis without the sun?
Please correct me if I am misinterpreting what the bible says. I am looking at Genesis 1:12 and 1:14 with 1:13 saying "And the evening and the morning were the third day."
The history of the formation of the globe is written in indestructible characters in the worlds of fossils, proving beyond the possibility of denial that the six days of the creation are successive periods, each of which may have been of millions of ages. This is not a mere matter of statement or of opinion.
The bible explicitly has grass and fruit trees made on day 3 and then the sun on day 4. How can you have millions of years of photosynthesis without the sun?
Please correct me if I am misinterpreting what the bible says. I am looking at Genesis 1:12 and 1:14 with 1:13 saying "And the evening and the morning were the third day."
reply posted on 25-5-2010 @ 11:56 PM by ACTS 2:38
reply to post by Shadow Herder
You stated,
"The history of the formation of the globe is written in indestructible characters in the worlds of fossils, proving beyond the possibility of denial that the six days of the creation are successive periods, each of which may have been of millions of ages. This is not a mere matter of statement or of opinion."
Those fossils you speak of show evidence of the Biblical account of the flood of Noah's time.
Because fossilization is a difficult process which requires rapid burial to prevent decay of the organism.
As for your next statement the reason for smaller slower organisms at the bottom is because they are slower then the larger faster stronger at the top is they headed for higher ground before their eventual demise by the flood waters and the birds and such kept flying until they could no longer find refuge and hence the quote supposed order of evolution has been shown in a biblical light to be creation with the destruction of the earths people and creatures approximately 4600 years ago.
It is interesting that the oldest tree is only about 4000 years old, the great coral reef has been dated to be only about 4000 years old.
[edit on 25-5-2010 by ACTS 2:38]
You stated,
"The history of the formation of the globe is written in indestructible characters in the worlds of fossils, proving beyond the possibility of denial that the six days of the creation are successive periods, each of which may have been of millions of ages. This is not a mere matter of statement or of opinion."
Those fossils you speak of show evidence of the Biblical account of the flood of Noah's time.
Because fossilization is a difficult process which requires rapid burial to prevent decay of the organism.
As for your next statement the reason for smaller slower organisms at the bottom is because they are slower then the larger faster stronger at the top is they headed for higher ground before their eventual demise by the flood waters and the birds and such kept flying until they could no longer find refuge and hence the quote supposed order of evolution has been shown in a biblical light to be creation with the destruction of the earths people and creatures approximately 4600 years ago.
It is interesting that the oldest tree is only about 4000 years old, the great coral reef has been dated to be only about 4000 years old.
[edit on 25-5-2010 by ACTS 2:38]
reply posted on 26-5-2010 @ 12:09 AM by Chamberf=6
reply to post by Shadow Herder
Um, since you are using an "alien/spirit Q and A" as your source it seems silly for you to not let somebody else use the Bible to refute you.
Gee you'd think that alien from the source could've told us how to achieve world peace and solve hunger instead of belittling humans for not knowing all the other "globes" ( LOL) are inhabited.
BTW maybe we should tell that alien that we usually call them planets not "globes".
[edit on 26/5/2010 by Chamberf=6]
Um, since you are using an "alien/spirit Q and A" as your source it seems silly for you to not let somebody else use the Bible to refute you.
Gee you'd think that alien from the source could've told us how to achieve world peace and solve hunger instead of belittling humans for not knowing all the other "globes" ( LOL) are inhabited.
BTW maybe we should tell that alien that we usually call them planets not "globes".
[edit on 26/5/2010 by Chamberf=6]
reply posted on 26-5-2010 @ 07:32 AM by stereologist
reply to post by ACTS 2:38
The fossil evidence clearly denies the biblical account of the flood. The first person to openly speak of this is probably DaVinci. That is how long it has been known that the flood cannot account for the fossils.
That is not the order of fossilization. The order of strata is dependent on the local conditions. There are places where marine fossils lie on top of land fossils. This "cutesy" claim of the order of strata is not true is it?
Continuous tree rings go back over 10,000 years in North America and Europe. Varves have been found to go back over 25,000 years.
Those fossils you speak of show evidence of the Biblical account of the flood of Noah's time.
The fossil evidence clearly denies the biblical account of the flood. The first person to openly speak of this is probably DaVinci. That is how long it has been known that the flood cannot account for the fossils.
As for your next statement the reason for smaller slower organisms at the bottom is because they are slower then the larger faster stronger at the top is they headed for higher ground before their eventual demise by the flood waters and the birds and such kept flying until they could no longer find refuge and hence the quote supposed order of evolution has been shown in a biblical light to be creation with the destruction of the earths people and creatures approximately 4600 years ago.
That is not the order of fossilization. The order of strata is dependent on the local conditions. There are places where marine fossils lie on top of land fossils. This "cutesy" claim of the order of strata is not true is it?
It is interesting that the oldest tree is only about 4000 years old, the great coral reef has been dated to be only about 4000 years old.
Continuous tree rings go back over 10,000 years in North America and Europe. Varves have been found to go back over 25,000 years.
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