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Originally posted by cripmeister
Originally posted by bluestreak53
Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by bluestreak53
Of course it is, they provided the Pickerings with their own little sandbox to play in.
Edit: OMF just removed the thread!! What's going on here??
[edit on 24-5-2010 by cripmeister]
Hilarious! I am grabbing bitmap images of the page for future reference.
They actually just wiped out 6o plus pages of their most hotly visited discussion thread without providing any explanation. It never happened. No one said that.
It is too bad because the whole thread does deserve a place in the Museum of the Greatest UFO Hoaxes of all time.
It's back online
Originally posted by cripmeister
I have no idea what happened to the thread but I can imagine it's taking a lot of hits right now. But there has been an eerie silence there after RU published part two of their expose...
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Originally posted by cripmeister
I have no idea what happened to the thread but I can imagine it's taking a lot of hits right now. But there has been an eerie silence there after RU published part two of their expose...
I'm not just talking about the discussion disappearing but OMF's indignation over the expose in the first place and the louses coming out to defend Source A.
all they've done is confirm the veracity "Source A's" rank and bona fides as a real USN Commander
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
I'm not just talking about the discussion disappearing but OMF's indignation over the expose in the first place and the louses coming out to defend Source A.
Punitive damages or exemplary damages are damages intended to reform or deter the defendant and others from engaging in similar conduct
Originally posted by Ashtrei
To my mind these Hoaxers should be the object of ridicule (id like to tar and feather them myself)
i rather like this one, brilliant work
i252.photobucket.com...
Originally posted by bluestreak53
Originally posted by Ashtrei
To my mind these Hoaxers should be the object of ridicule (id like to tar and feather them myself)
i rather like this one, brilliant work
i252.photobucket.com...
Is that an actual frame from South Park or just a topical comic done in faux South Park style? The whole episode could make a great South Park movie. The kids over at OMF would make great inspiration for satire.
Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by spacevisitor
So we aren't allowed to ridicule hoaxsters? We should treat them with respect is that what you're saying?
More disturbingly, Theilmann is being threatened with arrest if he doesn’t disavow his earlier revelations about secret UN UFO discussions.
The failsafe, if activated, would lead to him being arrested for impersonating a military officer and his public discrediting by the mainstream media.
Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by Ashtrei
Michael Salla is REALLY desperate right now, I bet his knees were shaking when he typed up that garbage.
Originally posted by spacevisitor
But looking again to it all and see all the efforts done to bring that Richard Theilmann alias Source A as much as possible in discredit and make him wrongfully look like some sort of dirty freak gives me a reason for check and double check it.
Because that kind of tactics are usually used for decades now to bring people who come forward with sensitive information about the UFO/ET realty as much as possible in discredit, so that people would indeed get the impression that what that person said is all based on lies no matter what his/her credentials are.
Originally posted by Ashtrei
Looks like being made fun of is the least of Dicky Boys problems
Navy officer faces arrest if he doesn’t disavow secret UN talks on UFOs
More disturbingly, Theilmann is being threatened with arrest if he doesn’t disavow his earlier revelations about secret UN UFO discussions.
The failsafe, if activated, would lead to him being arrested for impersonating a military officer and his public discrediting by the mainstream media.
www.examiner.com... n-UFOs?cid=publish_twitter:2383
Edit: odd that link doesnt seem to work from this site. if someone in the know could fix it please do
I question this man's bonafides, his actual military affiliation and his every contention made in these squirrelly "UFO" sites,
A Durham man who interviewed U.S. Navy officer candidates, spoke to college students and was seen around town in the uniform of a Navy commander was in reality a civilian who bought his garb over the Internet, according to court documents in a criminal case
The complaint alleges that Shrewsbury impersonated a naval officer over a period of several years, gaining access to the United Services Organization lounge at Raleigh-Durham International Airport
A search warrant filed in court shows that NCIS agents found a variety of military paraphernalia at Shrewsbury's home, such as parts of different uniforms, military decorations including the Distinguished Flying Cross, and 19 photographs showing Shrewsbury awarding his wife a Navy Civilian Accommodation Medal.
In regards to the question should the perpetrators be the subjects of derision and ridicule, to my mind the answer is yes.
For years they have been yucking it up at our expense, helping to reinforce the Woo Woo lunatic fringe stereotype often associated with the topic by the greater comunity.
What other punitive action is available to the victims of this act ?
Originally posted by cripmeister
Originally posted by spacevisitor
Because that kind of tactics are usually used for decades now to bring people who come forward with sensitive information about the UFO/ET realty as much as possible in discredit, so that people would indeed get the impression that what that person said is all based on lies no matter what his/her credentials are.
Are you implying that this might be the case here?
Dr Bruce Maccabee met Source A at secure Navy Laboratory in 2008
According to the scientist, Dr Bruce Maccabee, the officer in question had high security clearances in order to visit him unescorted at a secure Naval facility in 2008. That supports his claims that he was a covert operative for classified programs involving senior US Navy personnel.
Unfortunately, for Broadbent he omits to mention that the same source he used to confirm his outing of Source A, directly contradicts his ‘exposé’.
The source in question is recently retired Navy scientist Dr Bruce Maccabee who in 2008 was still working at the U.S. Naval Surface Warfare Center, in Virginia. This is what Maccabee had to say in a 2009 interview about a meeting he had with Source A in 2008.
First of all, I work at a Navy Laboratory, at the time, he visited me, I think it was in April 2008. In a Navy Laboratory in order to get in you had to have credentials, you had to have clearances, a badge that would allow you to come in, and even if you get in, you might need an escort, if you didn’t have a sufficiently high clearance.
Well Source A came right to my office, without any escort. Which tells me he had the credentials. He gave me a review of all the things he had done over the years. It … certainly looked real. At the very least, he was able to go right through the security of the laboratory and came right through to my desk. I told him how to get to the office and he did it. [Click here to listen]
So here we have a respected senior Navy scientist confirming that Source A had genuine credentials, and a very high security clearance as well to enable him to enter the facility unescorted. All that Broadbent refers to is that Dr Maccabee confirmed the officer’s identity and that was somehow the final nail in the coffin that his claims were all a hoax.
It is disingenuous to use a respected authority such as Dr Maccabee to "out" someone, but totally ignore his testimony when it is contrary to the 'exposé' that Broadbent is pursing. If Maccabee's testimony is to be accepted, then how was it possible for the alleged 'fraud' Broadbent describes in his 'exposé' who has not served in the military since 2001, to pass through unescorted all the security levels at a classified Naval warfare facility, and visit Maccabee in 2008?
Among the security protocols at the Naval Warfare Center were showing a valid military ID card, scanning a barcode on the back of the card, as well as other security protocols in place depending on the location and classification level of secure facilities.
These might include electronic fingerprinting, retina scans, biometric readings, etc. Security clearances are regularly updated and limited to specific periods so even if Source A used an old uniform or military ID card from 2001 or earlier, how was he cleared by security personnel to enter the various levels of security and finally enter Maccabee's secure facility in 2008?
Furthermore, it's not just a matter of having the right security clearance to enter a highly classified facility, one also has to show cause for being there, similar to "need to know" access. In other words, some superior authority must have sanctioned Source A to travel through the various security layers in place to visit Maccabee in his secure laboratory facility because he had some reason to be there.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work through all the implications of this, but it appears that Broadbent, et al, are pretty oblivious to the implications of Maccabee's testimony because his 'exposé' requires debunking Source A. Why?
Perhaps Dr Maccabee himself may have the answer. In his 2009 interview he went on to say:
As far as the meeting at the UN was concerned, he affirmed that there was one, he was there, and it was not a formal meeting of the UN. I got the impression it was an informal meeting of people who were in the subject… He did tell me some things that indicate the Navy has run into UFOs. UFOs have screwed up some Navy Systems. The Navy, apparently some high level people in the Navy feel this ought to be publicized .. that is the existence of UFOs.
The implications of Source A’s meeting and discussion with Dr Maccabee are startling. A senior Navy Scientist is discussing with an unescorted officer with high security clearance in his classified facility, issues concerning UFOs, secret UN discussions, and senior Navy personnel wanting to disclose the existence of extraterrestrial life. If Source A is not who he claims to be, then it appears that a secure US Navy facility was compromised at various security levels by someone who wanted to have a conversation about UFOs with a Navy Scientist for unknown reasons.