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Originally posted by cripmeister
I think you should read the RU article again, they have a rock solid case against Source A/Richard Theilmann. You might also want to follow the discussion over at OMF.
Narrowing down the list of suspects from three to one wasn’t going to be easy, but fortunately for us, the Pickering’s made this task much easier by having Source A visit with a number of well known members of the Ufology circuit. RU’s Ryan Dube has maintained an amicable working relationship with one of those people, so when Andy asked us if we could contact him and ask him to verify, Ryan jumped at the chance and fired off an email containing a number of photos and some background information.
Imagine our excitement when little over an hour later, he replied with the following:
“My recollection of him suggests that he is the guy at the left in the light colored suit
www.nynavyleague.org...
The other suggested photos show very dark images, some of which might be poor pictures of him.”
With all of this information in hand, I decided to email Ryan’s source in order to get his view on the situation and request a telephone call. The information we already had was more than sufficient to nail this down, but this was, after all, the man who had personally met with Source A on a navy base and indirectly ended up vouching for him. I called him up a couple of days later and had a very productive conversation. Whilst on the phone, I told him that we had discovered the name of Source A and I wondered whether Source A had identified himself by name to him. He said he had, to which I replied “Richard?” he answered by saying “Yeah Richard, Richard Theilmann”
(My quote: To discount the possibility of us being alone is, in my opinion, ridiculous) Wise opinion, it's a no brainer from my perspective but then again I've had personal experiences that the large majority have not yet been privy to. If I never had such experiences I would be on the same boat as everyone else wondering, researching and so on.
(My quote: I am a skeptic when it comes to the more fanciful and Hollywood inspired stories about UFOs.) Who wouldn't be?
Unity_99 is one of quite a few that keep in touch with me on this site. I never make judgments against anyone and do my best to properly engage other posters in a friendly manner. It's clear that Unity_99 must have skimmed over the headlines and missed the subject matter on this one.
(my quote: This whole “UN ET meeting” is a prime example of a deliberate attempt at manipulating other people’s opinions) It seems to have worked quite well.
(My quote: And what’s more, it is doing exactly what “sheeple” are accused of; accepting knowledge as true without any personal exploration.) Were on the same page.
Everyone is entitled to their own freewill/agency/choice so feel free to make assumptions/guesses/judgments.
Disprove what exactly?
And to disprove me, all you have to do is provide me with one piece of evidence that isn't on Youtube.
So far we seem to be pretty much on the same page.
Appreciate you taking the time where there is no time.
Boom! That is the sound of Salla and Co’s hopes and dreams for the Source A story exploding around their ears. The one remaining aspect of the story -in their eyes at least- that these people could use to prove to others there MUST be something to the story, has gone up in a cloud of white hot shrapnel and billowing smoke.
I would like to offer my congratulations to the excellent research done here. Perhaps I can clarify my own “knowledge” about this case, such as it was. Ted Roe is right that I did defend the legitimacy of Mr. Theilmann over the phone. I had met him in person at the 08 X-Conference. We talked privately for a short while, and he gave a good presentation of himself. Following that, I attempted to obtain follow up information from Mr. Theilmann in order to get him to be more specific about his claims. He never did so, not to my satisfaction. Ted might have a better memory than I do on this, but I am fairly sure that when we had our phone conversation, it was before the surgery event. It was that whole thing, and the non-believable nature of it as described to me, that forced me to tell the Pickerings I was not interested in spending any more time looking into this case. After that, I decided just to let it go. At no time did I ever publicly endorse this case. Other than my phone conversation with Ted, I don’t think I gave support of the case to any other researcher. Although I will admit that privately I did think for a while that a meeting of some sort did take place at the U.N. Yep. Never pretended I knew it was true, but I did think it seemed that it happened. Now I think we all know better. It just shows for the umpteenth time that talk is cheap. The researchers who uncovered this case deserve everyone’s thanks and appreciation. So, from myself, a deep and heartfelt THANK YOU. Richard Dolan keyholepublishing.com... Comment by Richard Dolan — May 24, 2010 @ 12:38 am
Please, with all due respect, do not try and suggest that I think the same way as you. Your labelling me as “wise”
I have no way of evaluating your “experiences” fully, but can form an opinion as to their resulting effect on your life.
Really? You are skeptical?
You never make judgments? Oh please. You did it with me.
You decided to respond to my criticism of Unity_99’s major gaffe in thinking this thread was proUN meeting, and then regale me with countless, completely off-topic videos as an attempt to re-educate my seeming skepticism.
Our Unity_99 is the epitome of the target audience such hoaxes are aimed at, ie., unquestioning believers.
Make even the most extravagant claims about UFOs in a serious and seemingly covert way, add evocative organizations and clandestine meetings and bingo, the gullible will flood to your support.
Wow, how many people are going to claim mental superiority over another ATS member? This is a bit distasteful. I can recall multiple embarrassing comments made by literally every member who has felt it necessary to showcase the embarrassing paragraph left by Unity_99. It's not exactly hypocritical, but it's quite offensive and completely uncalled for. Making a reasonable point, and attacking someone in the same sentence, is probably the worst way to get that point across.
What it has achieved is to fool certain people.
Are you serious? We are not on the same page. In fact, we’re not even in the same book.
I don’t live in the same world as the miserable one you inhabit.
Mine is positive, forward looking, and full of hope.
Originally posted by ET_MAN
reply to post by Beamish
Hi Beamish,
How are you?
I hope you are doing well.
Please, with all due respect, do not try and suggest that I think the same way as you. Your labelling me as “wise”
With all due respect, you do know the difference between me stating that your thoughts on the existence of extraterrestrials is a wise statement in comparison to everything about you in general don't you?
I have no way of evaluating your “experiences” fully, but can form an opinion as to their resulting effect on your life.
Feel free to form an opinion, make an assumption, judgment or write anything you want about me Beamish, I'm not ticklish.
Really? You are skeptical?
If you're referring to Hollywood movies It's a no brainer!
You never make judgments? Oh please. You did it with me.
I suggest you go back and review the post, you do know the difference between making assumptions and judgments don't you?
You decided to respond to my criticism of Unity_99’s major gaffe in thinking this thread was proUN meeting, and then regale me with countless, completely off-topic videos as an attempt to re-educate my seeming skepticism.
What you wrote about Unity_99 came off distasteful, insensitive, disrespectful and just plain rude. Who gives you the high and almighty right to go around using other ATS members as your prime example to make insensitive, disrespectful and rude judgment statements?
Here is your original post.
Our Unity_99 is the epitome of the target audience such hoaxes are aimed at, ie., unquestioning believers.
Make even the most extravagant claims about UFOs in a serious and seemingly covert way, add evocative organizations and clandestine meetings and bingo, the gullible will flood to your support.
Do you feel it to be in good taste to use another ATS member in such a way?
Why not just make a generalized statement and be on your way?
It's distasteful, insensitive, disrespectful and just plain rude.
Do you call that positive?
Son of Will made a comment about it here:
Wow, how many people are going to claim mental superiority over another ATS member? This is a bit distasteful. I can recall multiple embarrassing comments made by literally every member who has felt it necessary to showcase the embarrassing paragraph left by Unity_99. It's not exactly hypocritical, but it's quite offensive and completely uncalled for. Making a reasonable point, and attacking someone in the same sentence, is probably the worst way to get that point across.
I agree 100%
The way you conduct yourself and engage other posters reveals a lot about yourself Beamish.
What it has achieved is to fool certain people.
Tell us something we don't know, it's a no brainer and exactly why I responded the way I did.
Are you serious? We are not on the same page. In fact, we’re not even in the same book.
If you say so and here I was agreeing with most of what you wrote in your previous post.
I don’t live in the same world as the miserable one you inhabit.
Mine is positive, forward looking, and full of hope.
In making such a statement it goes to show how very little you know about me.
Are you in need of a sparring partner or are you after an argument or is it the attention?
If you wish to continue ranting and raving let's take this to another thread or chat about it directly as I'm sure many here would appreciate that. Personal attacks against other posters are not exactly on topic don't you think?
Best Wishes!
[edit on 24-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
The elementary school graphics have nothing to do with the subject and are annoying when trying to scroll through the thread.
The thread does have to do with supposed UN meetings about extraterrestrials does it not?
What you wrote about Unity_99 came off distasteful, insensitive, disrespectful and just plain rude. Who gives you the high and almighty right to go around using other ATS members as your prime example to make insensitive, disrespectful and rude judgment statements?
I cannot share with you who I am or what I know only that I am a voice coming forward with a whisper and warning hoping some will listen who were meant to hear.
I am in the same density as everyone on this planet but am from another time in which I cannot share anything further.
Do you feel it to be in good taste to use another ATS member in such a way?
Why not just make a generalized statement and be on your way?
It's distasteful, insensitive, disrespectful and just plain rude.
The way you conduct yourself and engage other posters reveals a lot about yourself Beamish.
In making such a statement it goes to show how very little you know about me.
Are you in need of a sparring partner or are you after an argument or is it the attention?
If you wish to continue ranting and raving let's take this to another thread or chat about it directly as I'm sure many here would appreciate that. Personal attacks against other posters are not exactly on topic don't you think?
This isn’t about Unity_99, or you specifically,
I pointed out that she had made a mistake,
That you’re a time travelling emissary for “benevolent aliens”, here to deliver a message of the imminent destruction of mankind?
ET MAN.....
I think it's a shame that you keep posting relentlessly off topic & ruining this strong investigative thread.
Can you just leave us in peace & take up your issues in a more relevant thread?
Please.......?
Originally posted by IsaacKoi
Many of the regular visitors to the ATS Aliens & UFOs forum will have seen at some point in the last couple of years a reference to "Source A".
"Source A" is an individual that has been reported by a few researchers to have revealed details of secret United Nations meetings about UFOs and aliens.
…perhaps it's time for you to stop getting off topic making false accusations/judgments about others.
You inappropriately used Unity_99 as an example in poor taste and there's no need to further debate that.
You've already tried to explain and defend yourself a few times now in this thread but how about an apology to Unity_99?
(MY quote: That you’re a time travelling emissary for “benevolent aliens”, here to deliver a message of the imminent destruction of mankind?)
Another false accusation and it's apparent that you are looking for things to throw at me but I'm not ticklish remember? Anyone who has followed that particular thread has the answer to your question.
From which density are you ?
I am in the same density as everyone on this planet but am from another time in which I cannot share anything further.
I have traveled to other worlds, worlds within worlds and times and reside on earth in your density,
An earth catacylsm will take place October 2011,
On board a inter dimensional craft I have been allowed to control the vehicle by my thoughts, upon entering this vehicle…
If you would like to further discuss the contents of that thread take it to the thread.
No thanks. You’ve hijacked this thread enough without stealing posters for your own.
Want me to go on proving you wrong?
Originally posted by spacevisitor
I wonder myself the following.
How come that the name tag of what must be Richard Theilmann is so different then all the other person’s name tags in those pictures?
[edit on 24/5/10 by spacevisitor]