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reply posted on 20-5-2010 @ 11:44 PM by hadriana

BoA can stick it. I had to get fingerprinted to cash a check - their check - drawn on their funds, even after they had called to confirm the check was valid and I'd shown several forms of ID.

Fingerprinted. By a bank. That burnt me up.

reply posted on 20-5-2010 @ 11:46 PM by Brotherman

reply to post by MemoryShock

So what you are saying then in turns then if time spents worth as an IOU then basically putting money in the bank is like saying you let the bank borrow your money and they just owe you that balance so the bank invests your money and so on?

reply posted on 20-5-2010 @ 11:57 PM by Brotherman

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That does seem pretty wild and its not exactly like you can verify your fingerpront over the phone I wonder why the bank is using your finger print i wonder if it is to help the FDIC and FINCEN in their ever going war on money laundering

reply posted on 21-5-2010 @ 05:14 AM by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Brotherman
EDIT: I wanted to go ahead and add pay attention to the bottom of the page were you pay for your application from were it says "I acknowledge that US IMMIGRATION SUPPORT is an independent organization not affiliated with the U.S. Government." I thought that was pretty wild too what kind of message are these people sending

Why do you find that wild? Just someone trying to make a buck.

This does raise a lot of questions, like what percentage of undocumented workers (illegal immigrants) with ITINs pay taxes? I found some figures related to this. Take Arizona for example, in 2002 it had 250,000-350,000 undocumented workers according to this:

www.urban.org...

But that also shows a pie chart of many foreign born folks are here with documentation in addition to the undocumented, and I'm sure they are more likely to have ITINs than the undocumented folks.

So how many tax returns were filed using ITINs in Arizona in 2002? :

www.amren.com...

In Arizona, ITIN holders filed 24,371 state returns in 2002, said state revenue department spokesman Dan Zemke.

So if all the ITINs in AZ belonged to undocumented workers (They DON'T), only less than 10% would have paid taxes, though I'm sure many of those folks are children who don't owe any taxes. Since many if not most of the ITINs belong to foreigners who are documented instead of undocumented, the percentage of undocumented workers who pay taxes is probably very small. For example, all the day laborers lined up outside home depot and are paid in cash, do you think they file tax returns?

reply posted on 21-5-2010 @ 05:27 AM by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by MemoryShock
Propaganda or not...and I do have a problem with the efficacy of Snopes..

And I'm trying to understand what that problem is, and toward that end I read this thread:

Is Snopes ever wrong?

There's a vanishingly small number of corrections/retractions cited, but as indicated there, some of those are made when new information comes to light. People like to doubt them but in that thread at least weren't able to come up with many specific examples of where they were proven wrong.

As I said they aren't 100%, I've seen one or two cases that I doubted their answers myself, but that's out of hundreds of cases so it seems pretty good to me.

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