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An open letter to the democrats in the US Congress

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posted on May, 21 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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Civil Rights=Illegal Immigration

Is this the math you were taught in school?

Really?

1+1=6 in other words.

Boy, keep playing the race card, the more it is played the more people are beginning to back Arizona. It seems the more the MSM and others are pushing the lies, the more people are looking into the FACTS of the case.

Fact, the Arizona law is pretty much the same as the federal bill except-

a-Arizona law directly lays out that NO profiling will occur
b-Businesses will be losing their business licenses if they hire illegals
c-Those that help illegals can be charged also

SO, keep it up folks. The more the MSM lies and those that believe the lies push this, the more people will wake up.

Sorry, tell me HH, do you want a one world government controlled by those elitists in power now? You are furthering their aims.

I am sure the NWO will thank you, NOT.




posted on May, 21 2010 @ 08:41 AM
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no one on this board thinks the businesses that hire illegals are the problem. Ohhh No no no it's these damn mexicans again, sneaking in here, doing all this hypothetical scary stuff that I assume all of them do!

The poor widdle bidnisses just wanna save moniez, it's not their fault bringing in immigrants illegally is more profitable!



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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I guess you just TOTALLY MISSED my post above you.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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For you to even believe businesses & employment are the only reason Illegals come to America is pretty puppyish. Once these criminals get over that border they now have chance to rake in benefits they would have never been able to get in mexico. Those anchor babies are popped one, after one, after one, after one....for a reason.




posted on May, 21 2010 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

It had EVERYTHING to do with the thread.... The thread is about whether or not Congress whas being honorable in applauding a foreign rep who takes issue with a law that is even controversial here in the US..

How can you call someone who stands up for their beliefs dishonorable? That's is what the thread is about... do I really need to quote the OP?



Congress is applauding a foreign leader WHO DIDN'T EVEN READ THE LAW at best and that really is giving Pres Calderon the benefit of the doubt.

President Calderon is playing the race card, he is trying to stir up Mexican American opposition to the Arizona law, and he is trying to interfere with the 1st and 2nd amendment.

If Congress wants to applaud a man that opposes a law that 70% of Americans support, is Congress representing the people of the U.S.? Isn't representing the people of the U.S. the job of Congress?

If Congress would rather applaud a man's views that most Americans oppose, that means that Congress is not listening to the American people, their very job.

That right there is dishonorable.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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This is further evidence that the Democrats are hopelessly out of touch.
The OP is right. Whom does our congress represent?
The borders have been ignored for decades, and this is the responsibility of our federal government. Mexican thugs with automatic weapons are coming across at will escorting drug smugglers, while our federal government is securing oil routes in Afghanistan. Wonder who THAT benefits?
For those that believe NO nation should be sovereign, where do YOU live?
A good border like a good fence makes for good neighbors. You cannot even TRAVEL safely into Mexico.
Someone better tell Calderon not to be riding a horse on a ranch is southern Arizona...it won't be Americans putting a bullet in him.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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I have always prided myself in being an openminded, independant free thinker. I have never felt any allegiance to the left or right. I have voted for both democrat and republican presidents. I voted for bush's first term then cried tears of burning rage when he got his second term. That being said, after seeing how spineless and apologetic this administration is, and after that standing ovation I will NEVER vote democrat again. In fact I would probably even sleep a little better if every last one of these America-hating fatcats were executed via firing squad for treason/sedition.

So when's the revolution? I can think of no higher honor than to be the first casualty in the restoration of the former greatest country on earth

ok. I feel better now. Had to vent.

[edit on 21-5-2010 by riffraff]



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. I'm with you 100% on this one. Agree or disagree with the law all you want but understand that the law comes from the legitimate frustrations or Arizona's people and the failure of the FED to listen.

Debate, discussion, and understanding should be the hallmarks of any nation in internal conflict. In my opinion, Mexico isn't in a position to criticize anyone when they can barely hold their own country together and when they do not do their fair share to curb illegal immigration.

Bravo, Sir.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:05 AM
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Did you vote for Obama?

If so are you crying now?



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:13 AM
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Congress, the current administration, and prior administrations, have given up on the American people. They no longer represent Americans. They don't listen to us, they don't care about us, and they have made a conscious decision to do what they want regardless of what is best for, or wanted by, "we the people". And no...I don't just mean conservatives. I mean all Americans.

Personally, I believe they have become...by choice...our mutual enemy. They are traitors. They look at America as the corporations (the money) when America is truly the legal, American citizens (the people). And by doing so, they have become dictators. Dictating to us what they will do, not what we want them to do. They feel untouchable because we are unorganized, in-fighting and divided. And for now, they are correct.

But this is thankfully changing. When our representatives praise a foreign leader, above our own leaders, something is obviously wrong.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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Ah, so this is what conservatives do when they have no ideas, leadership, and are on the wrong side of the issues--cry, complain, blame everyone but themselves and post decalmatory "open letters" on conspiracy theory website forums. Bravo, you're little "take back America" campaign for 2010 and 2012 will be as successful as your party is strong--which is to say, not at all.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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He was right!! Apparently, it is all right for our president, former and present to go to other country's and make negative statements about hosting country. But, it's not all right for them to make negative statements about the United States when they come here? What BS. Get over it. Arizona's law should be repealed!!! If they refuse to repeal this law, then give Arizona back to Mexico. That would show those racist $%#*%!! We don't need Arizona, nothing more than a bunch of gambling degenerates. Oh, and one more thing, the people that want to repeal the Civil Rights Act should just dust off those KKK white sheets and put them on. Stop being such cowards and stand up for what you believe in and please don't attempt to make logical arguments about repealing the Civil Rights Act. Desperate people do desperate things, just remember it was Bush that got us here not Obama!! And if you don't have a job feel free to stand next to all the Latinos waiting for a day job offer. Da..



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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If it's a Civil war to shed this corrupt, evil and tyrannical government, then so be it. There will be death and bloodshed, something we should avoid when at all possible, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the evils being done in Washington.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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Good post OP. I agree 100%. I hope that instances like this bring some clarity to those who voted for these progressive America hating dreamers to see that elections have consequences.

Check this out guys. Awesome vid. I voted for this guy when he ran against Arnold in California.

www.youtube.com...





[edit on 21-5-2010 by William Marshal]



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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Where is it written that your government should support your position based solely on the fact that you're American?

Congress has the right to express their opinion on any subject regardless of whether you approve of it or not. It's apparent by your thread that you feel that you have the right to publicly disagree with congress even though they are American. Can you be a bigger hypocrite?

Arizona has the right to pass whatever legislation they want to, at least up until the time that it is either declared unconstitutional or until the state goes bankrupt defending it, which it will.

No ones position deserves to be defended just because it's the position of an American and we are not in any kind of a contest to prove that my country is better than theirs. That sounds like some kind of a game that children would play.

If my position on any issue is wrong or immoral then I should expect to be ridiculed and if my position is right and just then I should expect to be supported, American or not. Right is right and wrong is wrong, plain and simple.

I am confident that the good people of Arizona will wake up one day in the near future and realize that they have allowed a small group of racist zealots to drive their state into bankruptcy and they too, like president Calderon, will realize that this is flawed legislation. They will come to the realization that this is not the best approach to the problem.

There is only one way to resolve the illegal immigration problem and that is to put the American employers who employ illegals in jail. Yes I said to throw Americans in jail, can you believe it? Maybe you want to write me a letter telling me just how disgraceful my position is for not supporting criminal Americans who created this problem, just because they are American.

When people like you wake up and realize that it is American employers that created this problem and you become willing to not only publicly condemn them but also to criminally prosecute them, despite their American citizenship, then we might be able to fix the problem of illegal immigration. Until then, you're just pissing into the wind.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 09:54 AM
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A convenient moment to return to the rhetoric of "disagreeing" with a politically conservative position/law/policy/war is un-American and treasonous.

It is not as if some idiot shouted "Liar!" at the President during a presidential address.

As for President Calderon...If we are to ask our world leaders never to criticize a nations policies while visiting that nation then President Obama and every one of his predecessors have a great deal of apologizing to do.

I imagine if President Calderon had criticized a policy initiative of President Obama in any slight way, the GOP representitives would have been on their feet in a microsecond and Fox News and Rush Limbaugh would be touting him as the second coming of Jesus Christ.

The intellectual dishonesty and the contradicting nature of the rhetoric make it difficult to take anything said here seriously.


[edit on 21-5-2010 by maybereal11]



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by thepathoverseer
Don't you know, this issue could lead to civil war.



It would be hilarious if Mexico had to move into Arizona to quell the violence on its northern border.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Mykahel
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If it's a Civil war to shed this corrupt, evil and tyrannical government, then so be it. There will be death and bloodshed, something we should avoid when at all possible, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the evils being done in Washington.


Please give us a few examples of these "evils." Oh, and some examples of tyranny would be lovely.

If you didn't have a problem with habeas corpus being ignored, illegal wiretaps and torture starting around 2001, then I don't think you know what "evil" actually is.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by maybereal11

It is not as if some idiot shouted "Liar!" at the President during a presidential address.

[edit on 21-5-2010 by maybereal11]


Riddle me this, When that congressman had shouted "You Lie" during the address, was Joe Wilson's statement ever proven to be a "Lie".

Joe Wilson was rude, BUT VERY RIGHT



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by riffraff
So when's the revolution? I can think of no higher honor than to be the first casualty in the restoration of the former greatest country on earth


There is a LEGION of Internet Tough Guys ahead of you. But I can state with complete confidence that none of you will actually put your life on the line for what you say you believe in.

101st Fighting Keyboarders, we salute you.



[edit on 5/21/10 by mothershipzeta]



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