The 2010 Census, How I Have Responded to 5 Enumerators

This is a very helpful tool for arriving at the actual root definitions of the many Latin words you will find are used in the law.

Many of the words you will encounter in the Census, and Official Legal Documents are laced with Latin words.

The Law has a tremendous amount of Latin Words in it, and if you really want to understand the Law and how it applies, having some basic working knowledge of Latin is essential.

This link is for a free online English to Latin, and Latin to English translator.

Translation Guide

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

(15) “United States” means— (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.

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United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) "Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn't have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers. Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another. This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it's easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt. Why don't more people own their properties outright? Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less? We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

www.thejoyluckclub.com...

With the passage of the Act of 1871, a series of subtle and overt deceptions were set in motion — all in conjunction and collusion with the Congress, who knowingly and deliberately sold the People down the river. Did they tell you this in government school? I doubt it. They were too busy drumming the fictional version of history into your brain — and mine. By failing to disclose what THEY did to the American People, the people became ignorant of what was happening. Over time, the Republic took it on the chin to the point of a knockdown. With the surrender of their gold in 1933, the People essentially surrendered their law. I don't suppose you were taught THAT in school either. That's because our REAL history is hidden from us. This is the way Roman Civil Law works — and our form of governance today is based upon Roman Civil Law and Admiralty/Maritime Law — better known as the "Divine Right of Kings" and "Law of the Seas", respectively. This explains a lot. Roman Civil Law was fully established in the original colonies even before our nation began and is also known as private international law.

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I thought the last external source I quoted could have been wrong, but when I found the PDF with the United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303, I was blown away. That last external source that I thought was just someone's meanderings, I had to look at closer. Notice the Roman Civil Law and the Divine Right of Kings.




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BAR Codes drive me crazy! Most of the chain strores want to sign you up to a discount club, where they give you a card with a Bar Code to track all your purchases. They give you a few pennies off for doing that on each purchase and the stores that use them really push them. I always respond when they ask me for a discount card or to join the program "I am not a bar code!".

Here is a little tip most of them do not require you to give them your name. The clerk may not know but if you are a little persistent someone in the store will know and give you a discount card without you having to give them any information. I have several of them.

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One of the very little known and little discussed facts regarding the United States Inc. is it has been in Bankruptcy since the Great Depression and the nation itself is in recievership, under the International Court Bankruptcy Court of the Hague.

Most people are completely unaware of this, or the fact that it's actually International Judges and Creditors who run the United State's Inc.

While we all love our illusion of freedom, and notions of the Constitution, it is an illusion of freedom, and notion, that is simply perpetuated to keep the natives from getting restless.

Interestingly enough one of the few Politicians to speak about the fact that we are in Bankruptcy and have been for a very long time was James Traficante, who a short time later was oddly enough sent to prison on charges he is still appealing to this day.

The truth is we aren't in Kansas anymore Toto.

Great post Jackflap, thanks for digging that up and sharing.

The Census form, here is how I answered it:
I took a black marker and went down the form. I told them how many people lived here, and the sex of each individual. I put down an age on each, under race I wrote Human Being. The rest I put down, that I will not answer and that it was not only an invasion of privacy, but against my personal belief. Do not visit, or I can not guarantee that the condition of the census worker after said visit.

LOL, you census conspiracy people are too funny.

I didn't send it in. A woman came to my door, was very polite. Asked me the short questions. Name, Age, Race, Rent/Own. That was it...took like 2 minutes.

It is confidential...

Did you know that the Bush administration tried to get census information in order to deport illegals and the supreme court upheld that the information was confidential and couldn't be accessed by the government in any way except as a counting measure of population?

My guess is probably not.

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

BAR Codes drive me crazy! Most of the chain strores want to sign you up to a discount club, where they give you a card with a Bar Code to track all your purchases. They give you a few pennies off for doing that on each purchase and the stores that use them really push them. I always respond when they ask me for a discount card or to join the program "I am not a bar code!".

Here is a little tip most of them do not require you to give them your name. The clerk may not know but if you are a little persistent someone in the store will know and give you a discount card without you having to give them any information. I have several of them.

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I have noticed a number of times the person working the register will have a card laying around that they will scan, when you don't have one of your own.

I am not sure whether it's there own personal card, and they are building points or rebates then, or if it's the stores own master card.

It's an amazing thing our bar code world. That the United States Inc wants to use them to catalog and count and track us too?

These are strange new times we live in friend.

Originally posted by Sarkron
LOL, you census conspiracy people are too funny.

I didn't send it in. A woman came to my door, was very polite. Asked me the short questions. Name, Age, Race, Rent/Own. That was it...took like 2 minutes.

It is confidential...

Did you know that the Bush administration tried to get census information in order to deport illegals and the supreme court upheld that the information was confidential and couldn't be accessed by the government in any way except as a counting measure of population?

My guess is probably not.

Did you know the Census information is shared with International Organizations and the Banking Cartel?

Probably not!

Did you know that the President of the United States is not the most powerful person in the United States?

Probably not!

Do you know that there is a Shadow Government that runs the United States?

Probably not!

Do you know what a dog and pony show is?

Probably not!

Thanks for posting.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Did you know the Census information is shared with International Organizations and the Banking Cartel?
Probably not!

Irrelevant and absurd. I have a credit/ATM card, a bank account, a cable account, a gas/electricty account, a mortgage, I own stocks, etc. They already know where I live!

Did you know that the President of the United States is not the most powerful person in the United States?

Probably not!

Irrelevant

Do you know that there is a Shadow Government that runs the United States?

Probably not!

Irrelevant

I laugh in your general direction.



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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Interestingly enough one of the few Politicians to speak about the fact that we are in Bankruptcy and have been for a very long time was James Traficante, who a short time later was oddly enough sent to prison on charges he is still appealing to this day.

I really thought I came across something new there. You knew of that PDF that I linked to? Anyway, I also got into Themis, the greek goddess of divine law and saw how it linked to nomos, which leads us to the law of the sea which leads us to you know where. It was a mind boggling adventure and I went on it so I could offer a rebuttal to you but I must confess, I cannot offer a rebuttal.

Edit to add, that led me to the Vatican where I found this.

The Catholic Church by virtue of the commission given to her by Christ is the Divinely constituted interpreter of the Divine Law of both the Old and the New Testament.

www.newadvent.org...

You've created a monster.

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Originally posted by thedarklingthrush
If the government really is a tyrannical super corporation that wants to or already rules the world, aren't they first going to come after the people that are so super paranoid about it that won't even fill out a simple 10 question form of things that you probably think the FBI or CIA knows (or could quickly find out) about you?

Agreed just face the keyboard keep your head down and don’t get noticed by the boss.
After all you don’t wanna get fired!
Stash your PENS and PAPER under your desk and wait for the signal.
There will be a HOSTILE err CORPORATE TAKEOVER by some of the employees, and we’ll all get stock options.

There is no conspiracy here. Its right there in front of you. The census is being used to change congressional districts. This is why they need the GPS! When they re-map the districts they will know where to draw the lines. The Progressives knew that 2008 would be the best chance to "fundamentally transform" America. I don't know how they are going to be able to "forge" any census data now that the we all know about ACORN but perhaps those doing the census are still involved with ACORN. The fact that they were removed from being the ones responsible for the Census could very well have prevented the end goal if they have indeed been removed. The end goal being to re-map the districts in such a way to make Republican controlled districts decrease while Democratic controlled districts increase. I think you'll find that any particular district is going to vote the same way they have in the past. Yes there are exceptions to this but historically Republican districts will always vote Republican and so forth.

Now if you could somehow realign districts by adding a relatively poor area or minority area to a historically Republican district you can turn the district into a Democratic district. I say poor or minority because they are generally in favor of government control because most of this demographic live off the government. This is the demographic anyone who wants to push a socialist agenda would need to keep themselves in power long enough to get it done. You change the demographic in an area and then you send in the now RENAMED ACORN to register voters in those areas. This leads to an overwhelming change in the political landscape and since ACORN has already been proven to be corrupt you can see how easy it would be.

So the census is indeed another mechanism being used by the Progressives to try and manuever themselves into a no lose situation. I mean Obama has already said and I quote "I plan on being President for a long time". 4 years isn't a long time in anyone's eyes and even 8 years isn't a long time. If you wanted to change the Constitution to allow a President to serve more than 2 terms again you need to take steps to get there and you can't do it in 4 years because you are gonna spend the first 4 years "repairing" what the previous administration did to get yourself reelected so you can truly "fundamentally transform" a country. In this Obama failed and all of this may very well be irrelevant now because the repairs are not working.


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You have had five census takers not because you have some correct legal grounds for what you are talking about, but rather because they are not educated enough in the law to know that you are full of it…..and my friend you are full of it…

Right off the bat your premise is incorrect.
The ® symbol is a registered trademark for the Census 2010 Logo As seen here:
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If this were not the case, then the ® would have to be placed next to every incidence of the words United States in all applicable government documents.

It has nothing to do the United States being any type of corporation. If they did not register the logo, then other groups could fraudulently use it (or misleadingly similar ones) and pass themselves off as being organizations working under the auspices of the Census Bureau.

What a trademark means has no bearing on the rest of your argument, because your incorrect about what was being trademarked to begin with…

I suspect what is going to happen as these guys go back to the office and it gets passed up the chain of command, is that you will end up being forced to fill out your census, or face the fines for refusing to do so. The census is a Constitutional law, its not an option.

Whether a citizen or not, if you are a United States resident, you are required by law to take part in the U.S. Census. Written into the Constitution, a census has been taken every 10 years since 1790 to provide a count of those living in the United States. To ensure accuracy, the federal government may impose penalties, in accordance with 13 USC Sec. 221, on those who do not take part in the survey.

I take it you’re a tax dodger, and a believer in the Sovereign Person nonsense as well…
Let me let you in a little secret. There was a time when those guys had me going too, then I stumbled on this web site:
Idiot Legal Arguments

And found out that its all BS, there is TONS of case law proving its fake. I asked my currant office manager, who is a retired US States Attorney, about the subject, and was basically told that it was BS, though some folks get away with it for years because they are small fries (and often nut jobs) that are not worth the governments time to prosecute. This person had personally prosecuted hundreds of these cases, and only knew of one person who got off on extenuating circumstances. So basically, if you think this stuff is true, you might get lucky and get away with it for 5 to 10 years, but eventually you are going to get nailed, and be in a LOT of hot water.

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You keep telling yourself that. These things are neither irrelevant or absurd.

Here are some other interesting things you likely don't know.

This comes courtesty of the Spartan King Leonidas...

Do you know about?

1) The book I.B.M. and the Holocaust?

2) The C.E.O. of I.B.M., Thomas Watsom, assisting Adolph Hitler, through the Census, in Germany, while simultaneously I.B.M. conducted the Census in America?

3) The ties of all of the history, to the R.F.I.D. chip, and N.T.S.B., OnStar, XM-Radio, Sirius Radio, Wal-Mart, and S.D.I. and Cell Phone Towers?

Yes sir, nothing to see here, move along, nothing bad or sinister ever happens in our world, and with unemployment at an all time low, and the American standard of living never higher, and our deficit down to nothing, I can absolutely see, why you are so confident in the Corporate Government!

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That link took me to the ADL militia watchdog site. Didn't the ADL want to censor the internet along with Cass Sunstein? I think there was a thread started when some of our own members ended up on their list. Oh yeah, here it is.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The ADL huh? Yeah right.

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You have had five census takers not because you have some correct legal grounds for what you are talking about, but rather because they are not educated enough in the law to know that you are full of it…..and my friend you are full of it…

Right off the bat your premise is incorrect.
The ® symbol is a registered trademark for the Census 2010 Logo As seen here:

The United States has been incorporated since before you or I have been born my friend.

That is how and why it uses registered trade marks.

You might want to brush up on some history of the Great Depresion and how the Roosevelt Administration forced all the states to officially incorporate under the Federal Government, so the United States could incorporate and declare Bankruptcy.

This is all history.

What's new is the extremes people will go to deny it.

Thanks for posting.

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It is totally absurd, and your references again are irrelevant. TPTB (see I am versed in conspiracy acronyms, so that should prove to you that I am not as ignorant as you assume me to be) already know all the information that will be collected in a census.

Now if you live in the backwoods, with no bank/credit/cable/electricity/car/children/gun/medial need/or at the very least contact with the real world, then I can see how you might be paranoid about the information collected. But aside from that, there is no information that will be gathered that will give any organization power over you that they do not already have.

Originally posted by jackflap
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That link took me to the ADL militia watchdog site. Didn't the ADL want to censor the internet along with Cass Sunstein? I think there was a thread started when some of our own members ended up on their list. Oh yeah, here it is.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The ADL huh? Yeah right.

Yes, it appears I have managed to strike another raw nerve friend Jackflap.

It's kind of amazing the frequency and rate I manage to do this huh?

I wonder if such people actually understand that they in fact reinforce the validity of my arguments and contentions, in the rather peculiar way they try to discredit them, by pretending that things that have long been a matter of public record aren't true.

That people would argue facts that are a matter of public record, like the United States being a corporation, and the United States being in bankruptcy is rather circumspect to say the least.

Originally posted by Sarkron
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

It is totally absurd, and your references again are irrelevant. TPTB (see I am versed in conspiracy acronyms, so that should prove to you that I am not as ignorant as you assume me to be) already know all the information that will be collected in a census.

Now if you live in the backwoods, with no bank/credit/cable/electricity/car/children/gun/medial need/or at the very least contact with the real world, then I can see how you might be paranoid about the information collected. But aside from that, there is no information that will be gathered that will give any organization power over you that they do not already have.

The first time I ever heard someone say The Powers that Be was a newly elected freshman congressmen to the United States who was explaining why he was telephoning me, and offering me his business.

Me thinks you might be spending a bit too much time in the backwoods my friend.

He was referring to the people who got him elected.

The Powers that Be control the political process, and unlike you, I knew exactly whom he was referring too.

Thanks for posting.

As long as we are on the topic we might as well discuss this bit too:

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Two more important things are at play here the first being RESIDENT AT

Main Entry: 1res•i•dent
Pronunciation: \ˈre-zə-dənt, ˈrez-dənt, ˈre-zə-ˌdent\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin resident-, residens, present participle of residēre
Date: 14th century
1 a : living in a place for some length of time : residing b : serving in a regular or full-time capacity ; also : being in residence
2 : present, inherent
3 : not migratory

Resident

Here we have another word based in Latin, so there are some legal ramifications to this word, particularly, (b) serving in a regular or full-time capacity.

Who am I serving in a regular or full-time capacity? The United States®, according to the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

If you are going to address the legal ramifications of the word Resident, then I suggest you look up the legal definition of the word Resident in a legal dictionary, not Merriam Websters…

residence n. 1) the place where one makes his/her home. However, a person may have his/her state of "domicile" elsewhere for tax or other purposes, especially if the residence is for convenience or not of long standing. 2) in corporation law, the state of incorporation.

So it has nothing to do with you being a Resident (i.e.… Intern or employee) of the United States, it simply means the place that you live, or where your companies home office is (in the case of a corporation). What you have done here is cherry pick the definition for a Resident that means someone who is a Resident employee of a company (for example a medical resident, or a resident intern). You have picked the facts to fit your theory, you have not picked the facts based on real facts.