reply to post by sweetliberty
It may appear that he in fact has "puppets" as he has claimed others are and have.
I promote freewill, self mastery and self responsibility as an approach to life. I encourage everyone always to act in accordance with what they truly
feel is best for them; I simply caution people to exercise wisdom, and self responsibility to that end.
Most members hold me in esteem and regard me with various degrees of affection because I do preach a self empowering message, and there is no denying
that people who do seek to then master themselves, and take full responsibility for their actions end up on an evolving path, that leads to a greater
quality of life.
Some do in fact regard me highly for that, while some regard me quite poorly for that, yet no matter how much someone agrees with or likes me, or
disagrees with me or dislikes me, I make no attempt to lead anyone or coordinate my posts here on ATS with anyone.
That would interfere with freewill.
You see, he hopes for others to take a different approach when handling things, that we let go of the way we have been programmed to approach,
if I may say it that way.
I just think he has said enough in the way of thinking and approaching and dealing with ...the shadow government, the sheeple approach and way of
thinking. The follow the crowd like cattle....
What I hope for most of all is that people understand that their actions really do have a ripple effect and much of what ails society is a result of
the average person’s individual actions.
If you shop at Wal-Mart and buy foreign made goods, yes, in fact you are hurting the very economy that sustains us here domestically by creating a
trade deficit, and eliminating jobs for Americans at the same time.
I can provide many examples of how our own individual actions are actually the disease that only the individual, not the government, and not I, have
the cure for.
Invariably most people do not want to believe their own actions in doing something like shopping at Wal-Mart have the very real impact that they do.
They will make excuses for those actions, and say well it’s just me, I don’t buy that much, or I don’t have any other shopping choices, or the
government should do something about it, or I will stop when everyone else stops, or I can’t afford to shop at anyplace more expensive or further
Yet they are all self defeating excuses that lead on a spiraling and self contained path towards self defeat and self destruction.
Proto can’t make you stop shopping at Wal-Mart and buying foreign goods, only you can do that.
Proto in all of his years of research and thought and passion, is capable of speaking for himself without looking like he is no different than the
very things he IS different from.
I am in fact very capable of speaking for myself, and in fact no one speaks for me but me, though many people do speak of me, in both good and bad
Proto does not tell people what to do, though I will often encourage people to stay on topic when they drift from it.
For some reason, Proto often becomes the topic, which I typically frown upon, but the truth is that this particular thread is about how I handled my
encounters with Census Enumerators which does make me part of the topic on this occasion.
I understand this thread is for all who wish to partake. And we should too.
But with all the hours and dedication he has put into sharing his point of view. With all he has done to clarify what he thinks is distorted by Rome,
when does what he hopes for apply?
Proto in fact hopes for nothing, and this is a big part of self mastery. The minute you start hoping for and wanting something, will be the minute
someone dangles it in front of you like a carrot on a stick and makes you start jumping for it.
Proto does like some things though, like rain drops and kittens, and warm wooly mittens!
Proto is simply being responsible in sharing his own thoughts, perspectives, insights and knowledge with others.
Proto too learns from other’s thoughts, perspectives, insights and knowledge at the same time.
I am aware that many people right now are frightened, frustrated, uncertain and suffering in various ways, and this does grieve me of course.
Yet I understand, even while most others do not or are reluctant too that most of this comes from a lack of situational awareness, poor observational
and reasoning skills, poor communication skills, and an inability or lack of desire to consider how a person’s individual actions do have a powerful
I am neither under the assumption that the vast bulk of people want to change these afflictions, or don't want to change these afflictions, I am just
sharing my personal observations on what is in fact causing people to be frightened, frustrated, uncertain and suffering in various ways.
Ultimately the choice to change the world is yours not mine. That is what Proto is trying to explain to people.
If you don’t want to change your world I am utterly powerless to change it for you as I will not interfere with other people’s freewill.
I just wonder that in all he has said and to so many, ....when does it turn into action and not always talk talk talk.
I have always been a person of action. In fact I live my life by a very rigid code that requires my own self discipline and adherence to it. I act in
accordance with that every day.
I am the guy who doesn’t shop at Wal-Mart but buys locally made products, I am the guy not drinking fluoridated water, or eating foods full of
chemicals and steroids, I am the guy who doesn’t argue endlessly over a corrupt two party political system, that is nothing but a dog and pony show
to distract people from a corporate/military dictatorship, in short I am the guy who told the Census Enumerators 5 different times, politely and with
full explanation why I won’t participate in a corrupt and self defeating system.
I am the guy who recognizes the ripple effect of my own actions and acts according to that with forethought, consideration and the greatest wisdom I
What you are asking in essence is when I will become as responsible for other’s actions as I am towards my own, and the truth is that if you can’t
master yourself, neither can I.
So it really is about when you are going to take action, to make your environment a product of you, instead of being a product of your environment.
Silence is an action, so is talking and posting but is it from the same view or is it from the view of a new and different set of eyes?
I think if you read my posts carefully and objectively you will discover, I am never telling anyone that they must draw a certain conclusion or my
conclusion. People don’t have much luck in getting me to draw a different conclusion or their conclusion, and sometimes this frustrates them, but
the reality is, I always tell them, I respect their right to have their own opinion, but please respect my right to have one of my own as well.
I simply share what I know, what I have observed, sometimes the things that I have done too, and my perspectives, but ultimately you like everyone
else has to decide for yourself what is best.
You will never hear me say otherwise.
Please understand I know all on here have good intentions, in the name of fairness and peace and understanding.
Actually the Internet is going to be the preeminent battleground of World War III, and not everyone on here has good intentions, or wants peace.
So stop for just a moment to make sure you (we) aren't posting in a way that would give the appearance of what most agree is sheeple or puppeteer.
This is good advice; people should always examine their own actions, and question them, as well as the actions of others and question them as well.
I for one have been going through my own inner growth and awareness and am determined to learn how to take a different approach and a different kind
It's not easy and even if I fall on my face a dozen times or more, I'm determined to widen my view.
This is a very good thing, and the truth is that self mastery is a never ending task that is not easy.
When you realize that your actions do have an impact on yourself and a wide range of others, and do make a difference in how the world is and effects
others, it creates a whole new level of responsibility that necessitates much greater thought, focus and care in the things that you do and say.
It is a challenge, but those who successfully meet challenges, typically enjoy great rewards.
Thanks for posting.
[edit on 22/5/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]