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Obama Sides With Mexico Against Arizona Immigration Law

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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:01 AM
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Obama Sides With Mexico Against Arizona Immigration Law


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WASHINGTON -- Confronting soaring frustration over illegal immigration, President Barack Obama on Wednesday condemned Arizona's crackdown and pushed instead for a federal fix the nation could embrace. He said that will never happen without Republican support, pleading: "I need some help."

In asking anew for an immigration overhaul, Obama showed solidarity with his guest of honor, Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who called Arizona's law discriminatory and warned Mexico would reject any effort to "criminalize migration." The United States and Mexico share a significant economic and p
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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:01 AM
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Not that this is surprising in the least. Does this not amount to treason? Who is Obama supposed to represent, Mexican citizens or American citizens? I think we all know the real answer, corporate citizens.

Here, we have the President of the United States basically saying that he agrees that citizens of another country should be allowed to break our laws unimpeded and then sides with a foreign leader on this same sentiment. The crazy thing is, that many Americans still see this joker as a savior who is bringing change to our corrupt government. Do most Democrats now realize that Obama has changed nothing and is just as corrupt as the President before him? Has this reality sunk in to most Democrats yet?

--airspoon


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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Well if he will stand with Mexico over one of our own states one can imagine were he would like to line up with the UN one day on American 2nd amendment.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by Logarock]



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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Wow, I just hear this guy talking about an assult weapons ban in our own house!

Send this 3rd world little mouse back down to his own mess!



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by airspoon
Here, we have the President of the United States basically saying that he agrees that citizens of another country should be allowed to break our laws unimpeded and then sides with a foreign leader on this same sentiment.


Wow. Where did you get that? He asked for immigration overhaul. Did you not read this part?



Obama sought to show that he, too, is fed up with his own government's failure to fix a system widely seen as broken. He said that would require solving border security, employment and citizenship issues all at once



Has this reality sunk in to most Democrats yet?


I can't speak for any Democrats, but I have never thought of him as a savior.

I agree with those who say that the AZ law is unconstitutional. It violates the Fourth Amendment. I know a lot of people don't care whether it violates the Constitution or not, but I do.


Hey you guys? Just because "Newsmax" says that Obama "stands with Mexico", try not to get your panties all twisted up. It's the MSM messing with your heads again.

[edit on 5/20/2010 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:12 AM
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Hmmm...
Let's see which Presidents have sold us out on this shall we?
Reagan
Bush1
Clinton
Bush2
Obama
Oh, and let's see
McCain
Kennedy
Get the picture? IT'S ABOUT CHEAP LABOR FOR CORPORATE AMERICA?
As long as you frame this as being about ideology, you don't get it!
When corporate interests can't OUTSOURCE, they INSOURCE a supply of cheap labor!



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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Obama, why the hell aren't you listening? The AZ law is no different than the Federal Laws in place now, with extra civil rights protection added. We don't need another 3000 page monstrosity, we need you to enforce the laws we already have!

The Obama admin has no idea why we're pissed off about this. And I don't think they care.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:17 AM
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What does this have to do with Mexicans?

What does the immigration law from Arizona have to do with Mexicans?

NOTHING



If you want to be a citizen, get your papers! It's that easy.

Just because Arizona is on the border of Mexico, and that Mexicans are the majority of the illegal immigrants in that state, doesn't mean this is about Mexicans! This is about any illegals that are here ILLEGALLY.

I can't believe people are making such a big deal about this! If you are illegal, just get your green card.

Here is more than 11 ways to get a green card:
www.visapro.com...

Seriously... this racial b.s. has to stop!



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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Obama sides with aliens every chance he gets. Maybe he is one.




posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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Obama definitely hasn't even read the Law so he has to side with people whom he believes have read the damn AZ Law like Napolitano, Holder, Weiner,.....Oh wait they haven't read it either.

So to side with Calderon probably means that calderon hasn't read the Laws either or has a really horrible Translator. Calderon himself doesn't speak English or Read English, so his Translator can feed him all the manure he wants to hear.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by prionace glauca]



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:23 AM
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I can see how this could lead to secession. My understanding is that the majority of LEGAL AZ citizens are for the law, and all the law does is give the local authorities the power to deport non-citizens versus waiting on the FEDS to do nothing but waste time and money.

If this gets ugly and AZ cuts it ties with the FED I can promise you Texas and the rest of the dixie states will follow.

I have a sick feeling that Obama wants the US to become a much weaker country.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Once Obama has the Arizona law declared unconstitutional, it will be easy to find the Federal law unconstitutional as well. Thus throwing open our borders giving the Democrats a lifelong supply of illegal voters. People who steal identities and forge documents to be employed, will have no problem stealing identities and forging documents to vote.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Show me where in the AZ law that it violates the Fourth Amendment.
I have read both and I'm not seeing it.
Please supply text.
Thanks



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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I respectfully disagree with you, airspoon. I don't think that Obama is siding with foreign and corporate interests against the American people. Rather, I see it as the President rallying against a reactionist law that will segregate the Mexican and latino communities in Arizona.

This law sets a dangerous precedent for racial profiling an represents a serious risk to civil liberties and human rights. Simply because a person is of Mexican heritage does not mean that they should be placed under a microscope? Absolutely not. It's an invasion of privacy, it's discriminatory and it's wrong. Leaving this law in place provides space in our legal system for further exclusionist measures. Arizona needs to address the imigration problem without sullying the dignity and integrity of the founding principles of the United States.

I agree that the US border with Mexico is unsecured, and I firmly believe that the US needs to be more aggressive in policing the border to prevent illegal crossings. What I do not believe in is profiling under the guise of immigration law, it's discrimination plain and simple. Again, I'm not siding with people who are in the United States illegally but we need to think of the larger rammifications of a law like this. It could lead us down a slippery slope. Thanks for listening.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE
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I can't believe people are making such a big deal about this! If you are illegal, just get your green card.



They are making a big deal because of the end game....which they are tyring to keep behind the curtain.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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A security buffer zone on our southern border.

Maybe I'll move to Texas.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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Uh huh. It's all a Democratic Party thing huh?
The why did Reagan and both Bush's etc do the same thing.
As long as you are into your dogmatic partisan mode, they will keep on.
God, ATS misses the point sometimes!



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:33 AM
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They are making legal, green card holding immigrants like me look like effing chumps!
I did it the right way, so did everyone in my family. What is the point of doing it the right way, paying the money, going through the intrucive BS, when I could have just hopped the border and forged my papers?

Don't make me look like a chump Obama! Don't cheapen what it means to be a true citizen of this country!



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Can we please just send him back to Mexico with Calderon?

Sounds like a perfect solution to me.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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I know what it's about but unfortunately, most Americans don't know what it's about. My point here is was that it is getting harder and harder for me to believe that Americans still don't know what it's about. What really gets me, is that I'm still hearing how wonderful Obama is and "thank god that he is ending the government corruption that shined so brightly with Bush". He is the same as Bush, IMO, except a little more dangerous because at least the majority of Americans realized Bush was full of #.



reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
 



I agree with those who say that the AZ law is unconstitutional. It violates the Fourth Amendment. I know a lot of people don't care whether it violates the Constitution or not, but I do.

How is this violating the Constitution? Have you forgotten about the 10th Amendment? The issue of whether this breaks the 4th Amendment is questionable at best but then again, I'm all for state sovereignty. Many people misunderstand the Constitution, particularly the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights only states the liberties that the Federal Government can't take away from us, rather than giving us those liberties out-right. While normally, I wouldn't want authorities to be able to ask for our papers, something has to be done to combat the problem that we now face with illegal immigration.

While this government violates our real Constitutional rights, under the guise of security, they are failing to protect us at one of our most vulnerable spots, the southern border with Mexico. Too many Americans are losing employment for us to allow citizens of another country to come in and take our jobs. That's not even mentioning the fact of how easy it must be for terrorists (real ones) or tools used by terrorists to come into this country. What makes it even harder to protect us on that front, is that the Border Patrol and Customs agents are over-worked by dealing with the large numbers of people crossing the border. Stop those people from crossing the border and it will be much, much easier to protect the really bad people/objects from crossing the border.

I personally have no problems with Mexicans and in fact, I happen to like Mexicans very much as they seem to be very hard working people with the majority having good, clean morals. However, that means nothing in the face of high unemployment numbers and possible terrorist attacks as a result of a widely open border.

Sure I think there are much better ways to combat the illegal immigration problem, such as prosecuting the companies that hire them but at this point, I'll take what I can get, wherever and whenever I can get it, especially as long as the solution/s are within the confines of the Constitution. The original intent of the Constitution as opposed to someone's inept interpretation of the document.

--airspoon


Edited to add: I have to take my son to his horse riding lessons but I'll be back to check on this thread in about an hour.

Edited for spelling.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by airspoon]

[edit on 20-5-2010 by airspoon]



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