'Pedophile Island'

reply to post by gotrox

One of the problems - at least for me and a number of other posters on threads related to pedophiles and child molesters - is coming up with a set of terms that all can agree on.

In my opinion a 'pedophile' is not 19 year old that sleeps with his 16 year old girl friend (consensually) and is labeled a pedo for life.

I'm talking about anyone at any age who sexually abuses - in any way - a prepubescent child and from there of course there are lesser ad greater degrees of abuse, but that's for another thread, or post at least.

But, having spoken with level 3 sexual predators, and with my own narrow understanding (I say narrow because I don't have a degree or years upon years of studying this problem) - I do not believe anyone who sexually abuses and/or rapes an infant or a child can ever 'get better'. Nor do I believe they should ever be released back into society.

Taking it one step further, I don't believe we'll ever be able to 'rid' society of child molesters/rapists when almost to a one convicted sexual abusers recount they were sexually abused as a child - the reason they went on to commit the same acts against other children later in life.

So - a never ending tragedy.

And something has to be done. The 'system' as we know it - isn't working.

An Island?
Life imprisonment with no chance - ever - of parole?
Branding pedophiles?
Just out and out kill them?

Gruesome thoughts.

But the choice of letting the situation go on statuesque is even more horrifying.

Thanks for your reply
peace

Would this island allow for both male and female offenders? If so, it's only a matter of time before they have kids and then they are back in business.

Why not simply keep them in prison where they belong?

I've always said that if there was ever another Holocaust, it would be the mass destruction of people convicted, and likely mostly falsely, of pedophilia. Because most people unconditionally hate pedophiles these days.

Be careful what you wish for!!

reply to post by silo13


That IS the point.
Non -consensual of ANY age-age is not right.
Where is the line drawn?
Jews say 13 is the age of reason, others say 7.
US and many others set the age @ between 14 and 18.
Romeo and Juliet were between 13 and 15.
Some say 3 years difference, others say 5 years.
Where is the point you need to be branded for life in some database?

Lets not go Mohamed, as religion trumps law every time.

Originally posted by 19872012
I've always said that if there was ever another Holocaust, it would be the mass destruction of people convicted, and likely mostly falsely, of pedophilia. Because most people unconditionally hate pedophiles these days.

Be careful what you wish for!!

The real scary thing is how people have tried in the past to make any nudity that appears youthful as child porn. So, a 25 year old with a ponytail photographed nude would be considered child porn due to her youthful hair style. Add to that the parents who innocently take a picture of their very young child in their bath or perhaps running around only in a diaper who get accused of child pornography by over zealous photo lab employees. Also, don't ever let the local busy bodies know that you had to buy a copy of Loltia for a literature class. You may get a visit from local authorities who received a report of child porn.

Some very valid points, thoughts and opinions.

Another thing to consider regarding that hypothetical island, I know in at least four states, of children age 11 convicted of a sexual offense on the registry. I have been told of one as young as 8 years old but will have to confirm that. Will the proponents of this island place these children there as well?

I am passionate about this because I do work for the reform of our current laws. They're not working and instead of protecting our children they are, in fact, putting them more at risk. There are so many purported offenders that are not dangerous, should not even be classified as such, and so much of our tax monies is spent housing in prisons, probations, paroles, etc, that monetarily and human resources cannot effectively monitor and rehabilitate those that can and should be. The truly predatory can and do fall through the proverbial cracks. In one state that I know of there are 18,000 "sex offenders". Of that 18,000, less than 100 are considered predatory. WHO should be getting the monitoring here and where should the monies be spent?

Sexual abuse is horrific. Abusing a child is a heinous crime. But if things do not change, if there is not some common sense used, ALL of us are at risk. Any one of us could be on a registry.

I would remind you of one other thing, something you may or may not know. All it takes is an accusation, Doesn't have to be proven and there does not have to be physical evidence. So consider the cases of divorced couples and a vindictive spouse. Or that student that doesn't like a teacher. Or that neighborhood busybody that is constantly stirring trouble. And there is that spurned teenage boy or girl that wants to "get back" at their "interest"

Indeed, there is a lot of danger out there. I would ask again, could you end up on that island? We know the answer

can you not put the island in the middle of a hot bomb range there as well ?

The simple thing to do to these sick individuals is castration, then they will be safe.

Wee Mad

You people are some sick fracks. I am a sex offender, convicted of indecent exposure. No, I wasn't urinating in public, I was doing it on purpose. Did that mean I was sick? Hell yes, I became my own nightmare. However I never touched anyone, and I did it when I was a minor, to other minors either my age or a few years younger. And for the record I agree that anyone who rapes someone should get prison for life.

I also got help. It took time; over five years of therapy to make damn sure my problems were fixed. I haven't offended in over seven years, nor do I have any desire to do so. That took hard work and dedication just like an alcoholic or drug addict. And being realistic, I am an addict and will always have the potential to offend again. Theres not a day that goes by where I don't have to look at a situation and ask if its dangerous. Heck, I hesitate to hold my nephews and nieces, not because I have any desire to touch them inappropriately, but because I'm afraid someone might see and complain. That said, I've also managed to do a great many things since I was convicted. I've graduated from college for instance. I've also had several long and healthy relationships. I'd like to believe theres a future out there for me, because otherwise believe me I would have stepped in front of a train years ago.

What I will never do though, is let ignorant fools like most of you do anything to me. I served time, in jail, on probation, and by paying hefty fines. This is America and that means I should now be free. You want me to register? Sure if it prevents another tragedy like Megan or Jessica, I'm happy to! The things you people are talking about doing though are just sick. Not even the island idea by itself, but all the commentary about bombing it or just killing all of us. You try to do that and you will have a fracking war on your hands.

The truth is, sex offenders should go into asylums like anyone with a mental disorder, NOT JAIL. Jail made me a worse person. I was just a kid myself and that was no place to put me, especially without the chance to get some help while I was in there! Now once offenders are in an asylum, should they get out? Probably not since most can't or don't want to be cured. Every one has sexual deviancies though, and most can be treated just like any other problem. Instead its nearly impossible for me to get a job or find a place to live. So what happens instead? Sex offenders become homeless with nothing better to do than wander and get into trouble. Why not reintegrate them into society where they won't have any need or chance to offend?

As for an island, whats the point? Do you have any idea just how many offenders there are? That is the most asinine degenerate idea I've ever heard. The truth is most offenders don't reoffend. The truth is that parents are more responsible for their kids getting molested than any pervert is. Why would you let your kids go onto a website where they can chat with strangers in the first place? It doesn't take much to see that the real perverts on myspace or facebook aren't on any list. There is absolutely no reason a competent parent should allow their kid to go on a site like that. There is simply nothing appropriate for anyone younger than highschool. There will always be criminals and perverts, so how about people just do a better job of taking care of their kids?

This is an idea that will NEVER happen.... So, we take pedophiles stick them on an island and forget about them? And what happens when these pedophiles decide to have kids?

reply to post by silo13


Huh? An entire island for pedophiles to live out their natural lives? Sounds expensive, like tens of millions or more expensive, per year, and a huge waste of man hours. And completely unnecessary.

A 9mm HP bullet is only like 25 cents. Theres our solution at dealing with the convicted pedophile population.

Cheap and effective.

It's scary that some people are willing to ignore the constitution and due process.

I saw the title and thought it was a NAMBLA suggestion!

If anything, it will worsen them and all they will do is make up plans about what to do with kiddies when they escape and they will escape.

Id rather them be kept in fear with the general population in normal prisons, they will get what they deserve there.

A paedophiles island is the most idiotic idea i have ever heard off.

Guess what you get sick female paedo’s as well as sick male paedo’s if you put them all on a island they are going to have sex, and make babies.

I don’t know about you lot but I certainly wouldn’t want to be the first kid born on a island full of horny sexually frustrated paedophiles who haven’t seen a kid in almost a year.

No I say have them all surgically castrated and add to that a prison sentence that is relevant to their crime first time they are caught sexually abusing any child.

Paedophile island is a really bad idea.

Originally posted by expat2368
Just make them convert to Islam and ship them all to the middle east. Perfectly acceptable way of life there.

Or convert them all to Catholicism, make them priests, and send them to Catholic Churches all over the planet. Perfectly protected way of life in that occupation.

Originally posted by Limegreen
Wouldn't chemical castration be a better, cheaper option?

Paedophillia starts between the ears not between the legs.

2nd

It's ridiculous to even consider "letting them live on an island somewhere." When a non-human animal develops a taste for human flesh, the animal is put down.

Hang 'em.
Gravity is a renewable resource. And the recidivism rate is zero.

the world has all these islands that are supose to go underwater as the Oceans rise.

a tsunami would create more openings.

and we could all pretend to be sad.

perfect spot for those who are anti social and won't or can't change their attitudes.

just dreaming, in the real world, nothing will happen.

reply to post by Deaf Alien


This.

The idea would never make it past the Supreme Court.

The only reason to put them on an island somewhere is purely and simply the fact that society now lacks the fortitude to punish criminality.

The whole idea of putting someone in a prison is nothing but a sick liberal joke. The mere passage of time is not going to reform anybody, especially in the company of other perpetrators.

Liberalism always puts the focus on the perpetrator, and "what must be going through his mind," instead of focusing on the victims---guaranteeing their safety, the assurance of retribution, and the negative example which affirms that the whole society sees the crime as evil.

Instead, we spend a fortune on trying to reform the perp, instead of investing that energy in the welfare of the victim. Execute the perps; make the island into a rehab spa for victims of abuse.

why not just send them to ISRAEL