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Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest.
Gandhi, An Autobiography, p. 446 (Beacon Press paperback edition)
An example of British thinking in colonial times:
"No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion." --James Burgh (Political Disquisitions: Or, an Enquiry into Public Errors, Defects, and Abuses) [London, 1774-1775]
And thoughts (on this subject) of the man who wanted to rule the world:
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty." -- Adolf Hitler (H.R. Trevor-Roper, Hitler's Table Talks 1941-1944)
The leaders of our freedom struggle recognised this, even Gandhi the foremost practitioner of passive resistance and non-violence had this to say about the British policy of gun-control in India:
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi (An Autobiography OR The story of my experiments with truth, by M.K. Gandhi, p.238)
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Ameritrade is down right now? I just got off the phone with them and they told me they are in "red alert right now." They don't know why they are down, and the guy I spoke with said he has never seen this happen before!
The DOW is going down, down, down.
The internet is working slow today, and my computers at work have gone down several times as well?
Where is ATS on this thing? Are we missing something?
Originally posted by ogbert
During the Great Depression, we had massive deflation. In this scenario cash is king and anyone owing money on anything is screwed as the value of the asset is much less than the loan.
Originally posted by ogbert
The million dollar question is "which way does it go?" Meltup or Meltdown?
Originally posted by wayno
Reading through all of those mini reports and watching the Bob Chapman video, I come to a slightly different conclusion on things.
What is becoming crystal clear is the extent to which the "bankster" moniker has been well deserved. The need to end that tyranny is at hand.
It ain't going to be easy or pleasant, but it will be necessary. The collapse of the economic system will be a good thing. We should not bemoan the destruction of that evil system.
Some of the reports spoke of a rebirth in "American" ingenuity and entrepreneurial spirit to come up with a new and legitimate way of not only "surviving" but improving the way we live our lives.
We hate the current system; yet we fear its demise. We shouldn't. It has to to be torn apart. The banksters need to go down so the rest of us can begin to have a life.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by GorehoundLarry
And people like you were claiming "there is nothing going to happen to the economy"... and here we are...millions have lost their jobs, the situation in Europe is worse than in the U.S. as for example unemployment in countries like Spain is at 20% if not more, but we are catching up...
[edit on 20-5-2010 by ElectricUniverse]
Originally posted by Kaytagg
Why would they collapse the system? What is the point?
Whenever I read threads like this I wanna run out and buy cases of water
Originally posted by bdb818888
reply to post by ElectricUniverse Tell that to all the mothers who children were shot and killed walking home from school because some thug wanted to become a gang member .A majority of people that are killed by guns are Innocent people and young children......Guns always end up in the wrong hands.