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There was a woman and her little girl coming from a dance glass that ended up dead because of an illegal, a little boy who was run over by a drunken illegal who had been arrested a number of times previously. These are just a few incidents. These things matter deeply to me because pro illegal people dismiss these things as though those lives never mattered, as though the illegal person who breaks laws are more important. It makes me sick inside. It breaks my heart that we are forced to put up with these things that never would have happened had our laws been enforced.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by ToToo
It is true there are plenty of illegal aliens who are "free riding" off the system. Many illegal aliens pay taxes in the form of sales taxes and even income taxes. I used to be a volunteer tax preparer and prepared illegal aliens income tax returns. Many of them had portions of their salary withheld by their employers.
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Night Star
There was a woman and her little girl coming from a dance glass that ended up dead because of an illegal, a little boy who was run over by a drunken illegal who had been arrested a number of times previously. These are just a few incidents. These things matter deeply to me because pro illegal people dismiss these things as though those lives never mattered, as though the illegal person who breaks laws are more important. It makes me sick inside. It breaks my heart that we are forced to put up with these things that never would have happened had our laws been enforced.
As many horror stories you tell of illegals, I am surprised that you don't mention that Americans are capable and do the same thing day in and day out. Being illegal doesn't make a person drive drunk or commit a crime.
Lives do matter, but a crime is a crime no matter who committs it.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by Night Star
Well anybody could be a victim of a crime committed by members of a particular group. If I were abused as a child by an Irish pedophile,
Originally posted by centurion1211
Now for all of you supporting illegal immigration, I'll ask a question that none of you seems to have the cojones to answer. Exactly why do you support it?
ILLEGALS have NOT contributed
Now for all of you supporting illegal immigration, I'll ask a question that none of you seems to have the cojones to answer. Exactly why do you support it?
Originally posted by Merigold
ILLEGALS have NOT contributed
As an illegal alien for over 25 years, I beg to differ.
It's a scam, people. Illegal aliens are the most popular bogeyman right now, but there have been others in the history of all goverments, it's a way for them to divert your attention. X-Factor has worked for a vast majority, but there are still a few hold outs, and now, some people can't afford cable anymore...and God forbid you can't watch your favorite shows...yes..best thing to do for any governement in peril of their people having had enough, is to divert their attention.
Judging from ATS lately, the plan has once again worked.
[edit on 24-5-2010 by Merigold]
Originally posted by Merigold
I support a fair immigration policy. Your current policy favours immigrants who can PAY. What chance does a poor person from mexico, who lost their ability tomake a living when AMERICAN companies began flooding the country with CHEAP agriculture pushed htme out of a job?
It's not up to the US to solve the economic problems of Mexico
Originally posted by Merigold
It's not up to the US to solve the economic problems of Mexico
No issues with the US "solving" the problems of everyone else though are there..
The US has the right to make her own laws regarding who she wants to come in to her country. And she has. I just find it disconcerting that a large portion of people who are the loudest on these forums about immigration don't think there is anything wrong with excluding the poor ( you know, the ones who are invited by that famous poem in New York) and down trodden to their shores.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
Any sensible person knows that there are costs and drawbacks to having illegal aliens in America. For example, while many illegal aliens are good, honest, hard working people; some are not. While many illegal aliens take jobs Americans would not do, some take jobs away from American workers.
This being said, do illegal aliens really deserve the negative publicity they are getting? Does this negative attention in the media stem from a genuine perception illegal aliens are a root of deep social problems or is it just scapegoating? Can anybody tell me how and why illegal aliens are the most hated or should be the most hated group in America?
I can think of many groups of people who have caused more problems in our society than illegal immigrants, yet nobody is calling for their heads on a plate. Nobody is calling to punish real estate speculators, bankers selling junk securities, or people who bought houses they knew or should have known they could not afford. Hell, as a lawyer I have to say that certain members of my profession have cost more Americans jobs than illegal immigrants have.
So tell me, why are illegal aliens public enemy #1.
Are you saying that US deserves to be brought down by illegal immigration?
Originally posted by jam321
As many horror stories you tell of illegals, I am surprised that you don't mention that Americans are capable and do the same thing day in and day out. Being illegal doesn't make a person drive drunk or commit a crime.
Lives do matter, but a crime is a crime no matter who committs it.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
Two years ago we thought my mother was having a stroke. We got to the ER, it was a 7 hour wait. They announced the 7 hour wait and offered food to the people waiting in the lobby.
All of a sudden, half the people walked out. About 90% Latin.
The wait dropped to 3 hours.