posted on May, 23 2010 @ 02:44 AM
Actually I do agree a little with Greyling on a couple points. First, that despite the many negative statistics, there are often exceptional hard
working human beings who risked their lives to try and come here because their own country is a hellhole.
It is difficult to resent people for doing the same thing I would do in their place.
I had a friend many years ago that I discovered was illegal, and her story was tragic. She was the only girl in a huge family and for high school
graduation her entire extended family spent 5 years combining money to buy her passage to the USA in the hope it would give her a better life. She
made it (barely, after a harrowing experience) to Los Angeles where she literally became an abused slave housekeeper in a big house with tons of them
and I literally mean *slavery* with horrible abuse, insane conditions and no way of escape. (You know, like 18/6.5 shifts, chronic sleep deprivation,
beating and hair shaving for infractions, living on top of many others in cramped spaces, rule by terror and so little money for that effort she could
barely afford food and stamps.) Her letters finally got to a remote (legal) relative in Ventura county who drove down and literally smuggled her
secretly out of the house and up to that county. She was 19 and the sweetest person I knew, and worked harder than anybody I knew.
People like her would be an asset to any country. She could easily have married or had a child and, being beautiful, was constantly offered by legals
of every race that choice in exchange for a different kind of slavery I guess you could say but refused. She wanted to speak english but had a hard
time finding resources for that and I worked with her on that a bit. Despite the crazy immigration numbers from mexico (I mean legal) it's not easy
at all so it's not like the suggestions, "Oh, just apply and then come here legally!" are realistic-- almost nobody who applies, in the comparative
numbers, gets here, or her family would not have risked her life and more combined money than their poverty would ever again see in bulk to try and
buy her a better life.
I do understand that it is only one person's story and that no matter how tragic her situation, she was illegally here and that was that. (Later when
her mother became ill, and she had 7 brothers under age 16, she voluntarily gave up a better life than she'd ever have, to go home to help her mom.)
I admit that I was incredibly shocked that she was able to get a drivers license, work, an apartment, etc. while being illegal, that kind of blew my
And I get that there's sob-stories from all over and none of this makes a dent in the very legitimate complaints that eveyr state and the nation have
about the tidal wave of illegal immigrants from cuba, mexico, and asia in particular.
But it underscores the point that I made in one of my first posts on this or some related thread:
1 - Actual PLANS -- reasonable, human plans -- for what we are going to do in situations where children are involved need to be made. Children born
here are citizens. We cannot just deport their parents and orphan them; we cannot deport citizens; it is not that there is not a (probably horrible)
solution, it is that I don't hear anybody talking about a strategy for this situation, and it's such a common situation, people should be. This is a
human situation not just a legal situation. The right of law is no excuse to be inhumane. It is one thing to want to be rid of criminals without
concern, or rid of illegals sooner rather than later, but it is another thing to have no compassion for human beings trapped in a bad situation.
2 - Consideration of what is going to happen at the border or Mexico side may not be "our problem" technically but it is our problem morally.
Kidnapped children and white women are a good slave trade going south already as we know, and hispanics are just as likely to fall into that category
-- or just be shot -- since they have nothing and no power and the Mexican 'government' and 'police' are allegedly as corrupt as the cartels that
have more power than they do. We cannot control the Mexican government (heck, as the recent and never ending bailout, corporate takeovers and O-care
shows, we cannot control even our own country), but that doesn't mean that serious conversation and consideration should not be had about this life
or death issue.
I understand (being a flaming conservative myself) that these points do not override the issue of 'illegal-meaning-ILLEGAL'.
But the right to do something does not make it right, and I'm surprised there has not been more public discussion about plans, and common situations,
and what can be done.
Here's just one example. Maybe there are people who would happily take whatever they've got and go home to any family they have in Mexico right now,
as a result of these laws and others starting. But are afraid to lest they be arrested before they reach the border, stripped of any money/goods, and
left criminals/slaves in deportation--if they have children this is an even huger threat. Maybe we could set up some official stations that would help
arrange travel tickets to get them to wherever in Mexico or south america they need to go (the corruption in deportation/border cities might otherwise
kill or divest them of everything before they can get anywhere), and doing this could keep them from being seized and deported in a 3-week period that
might occur before those trips occur (one needs to buy in advance or pricing is even crazier/unaffordable). MAYBE a lot of people would actually leave
our country voluntarily if this kind of help/protection were provided for.
I know this is only one small avenue and not a whole solution. But my point is that nobody seems to be talking about this kind of thing, and I wonder