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The Federal Reserve IS Illegal!!!

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posted on May, 19 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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To begin this post let me educate you on what a monopoly is, and the laws our country enabled against them

Monopoly- "In economics, a monopoly exists when a specific individual or an enterprise has sufficient control over a particular product or service to determine significantly the terms on which other individuals shall have access to it."

Monopoly is characterized by an abscence in competition- which often results in high prices and inferior products. Monopoly is the extreme case in capitalism. Most believe that, with few exceptions, the system just doesn't work when there is only one provider of a good or service because there is no incentive to improve it to meet the demands of consumers.

Product differentiation: There is zero product differentiation in a perfectly competitive market. Every product is perfectly homogeneous and a perfect substitute. With a monopoly there is high to absolute product differentiation in the sense that there is no available substitute for a monopolized good. The monopolist is the sole supplier of the good in question.

The Federal Reserve System (also known as the Federal Reserve, and informally as the Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. It is the only entity with the US government's permission to introduce US paper currency into circulation. It is not a goverment institution, therfore it is private industry.

The Federal Reserve System is made up of a Board of Governors and twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the country. There are seven members that sit on the Board of Governors. Each member must be nominated by the President of the United States and confirmed by the Senate. Members are appointed to serve 14-year nonrenewable terms. The President also nominates members of the Board to serve as Chair and Vice Chair for four-year renewable terms. These appointments must also be confirmed by the Senate.

The most important policy making body of the Federal Reserve System is the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC). It is composed of the seven Governors, the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and four other Reserve Bank presidents that serve on a rotating basis. The FOMC can effect monetary policy through the use of three tools:

Open market operations--the buying and selling of U.S. government securities.
Altering reserve requirements--the amount of funds that commercial banks must hold in reserve against deposits.
Adjusting the discount rate--the interest rate charged to commercial banks.
These tools can be used to tighten or expand the money supply. For example, if the FOMC wanted to control inflation, it could restrict the nation's money supply by selling government securities and raising the amount of money that banks need to set aside for reserve requirements. Both of these actions would take money out of circulation. In theory, a smaller supply of money would lead to less spending which would lead to lower prices. The FOMC can also raise interest rates to help control inflation. By making money more expensive to borrow, consumers would be more likely to save money rather than spend it. This could also lead to lower prices.

Laws against monopoly- Laws against monopolies in the United States are the Sherman Act of 1890 and the Clayton and Federal Trade Commission Acts of 1914.
The Sherman Act of 1890 makes it illegal to "monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, ... any ... trade or commerce..." This law is aimed at market structure. The U.S. Justice Department has the responsibility for enforcing this law.

Hmm, this sure seems like a monopoly to me which is illegal in America, and furthermore the government allows this. Do my fellow ATS'ers agree, or am I misinterpreting the role of the Fed and how it works?

Give me your opinions.



[edit on 19-5-2010 by marsvoltafan74]



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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...And.... You are NOT obligated to Pay Tax unless you live in the 13 Freemasonic states !! You are fooled into believing so if you live outside of the First 13 States which Is United States , the rest is Americas, NOT Tax obligated to USA..
Not the Same Contry. LOL ..

Georgia GuidStones is set in the 13th State ! LOL . funny...
2013 , 33 years after its erection, what could happend ? !



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by ChemBreather
...And.... You are NOT obligated to Pay Tax unless you live in the 13 Freemasonic states !! You are fooled into believing so if you live outside of the First 13 States which Is United States , the rest is Americas, NOT Tax obligated to USA..
Not the Same Contry. LOL ..

Georgia GuidStones is set in the 13th State ! LOL . funny...
2013 , 33 years after its erection, what could happend ? !


That's actually not true, you DO have to file income and pay taxes.

There are laws which state you do, whether or not they are unconstitutional is another topic, but the laws exist.

Yes the fed is illegal based on the original constitution...

~Keeper

[edit on 5/19/2010 by tothetenthpower]



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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It's not just the federal reserve, it's all the international banks connected to the World Bank. We had 1 banking chain in NL that was doing ok, it was a privately owned bank, and it got taken down by the Dutch national bank by claiming in the news they were on the verge of bankruptcy and advising people to withdraw all their money.

As always, follow the money..



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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What??? I can't read fragmanted ideas that don't follow a stream of thought, and that doesn't really answer any of the questions in my post.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 03:54 PM
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Yeah it's funny to think about how many people don't even know what the Fed is or how it operates. Everyone relies on MSM for information (even some politicans) for these things. Why research something, when someone can do it for you? Because, of course, the MSM is unbiased and uninfluenced.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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If it was called the Private Bank, people would know.

It's the clever marketing, calling it the Federal Reserve, gives the impression that it's regulated by the Federal Government, it's actually the other way around.

Your point about monopolies not being allowed to operate in the US is valid, it just doesn't apply to those printing the money.

The reality is, they decide what is legal and illegal.

Everything comes from them, because at the end of the day, YOUR salary, came from them.

~Keeper



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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Technically were kind of like endentured servants for the economy. Don't you love the "free" and "capitalist" economy?

I pledge alidegance to the hypocrisy of the United States of America.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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What it all boils down to is this:

Instead of the government creating money and then spending it into circulation, the government asks the Fed for the money. The Fed then creates the money, but loans (?!) this money to the government at interest, putting the nation into debt.

How are we supposed to pay back the extra amount (the interest) if the Fed never created it in the first place?



[edit on 19-5-2010 by 30_seconds]



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Originally posted by ChemBreather
...And.... You are NOT obligated to Pay Tax unless you live in the 13 Freemasonic states !! You are fooled into believing so if you live outside of the First 13 States which Is United States , the rest is Americas, NOT Tax obligated to USA..
Not the Same Contry. LOL ..

Georgia GuidStones is set in the 13th State ! LOL . funny...
2013 , 33 years after its erection, what could happend ? !


That's actually not true, you DO have to file income and pay taxes.

There are laws which state you do, whether or not they are unconstitutional is another topic, but the laws exist.

Yes the fed is illegal based on the original constitution...

~Keeper

[edit on 5/19/2010 by tothetenthpower]


Actually you DON'T have to do anything. This is the nature of freewill and part of our inalienable rights. Your inalienable rights though are only inalienable if YOU CHOOSE NOT to surrender them.

The legality of taxation is actually based on a number of social contracts YOU MAY FEEL COMPELLED to sign, these include but are not limited too the census, your Social Security Card, W-4 Payroll Withholdings Form, Voters Registration Card and various other social/use contracts presented to you by the State(s) or the Federal Government, which all culminate in a 1040 form whose instructions on how to fill out are addressed to: TAX PAYER.

Taxation is based on an individual being in debt to the state for various reasons established through social contracts/services and priveleges extended through licenses.

The debt must first be established contractually and then acknowledged to become an enforcable debt.

Having said that, if you through your own freewill choose not to acknowledge this debt by not signing the various contracts and obligating yourself for them, then no, they can not lawfully pursue a debt that has never been lawfully established.

Nor can they compell you to acknowledge it, against your own freewill, it actually does require you agreeing it is permissable for them to do so, through signed instruments.



[edit on 19/5/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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But the government, tries to make it impossible to not rely on the "luxories" it provides us.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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But the government, tries to make it impossible to not rely on the "luxories" it provides us.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:14 PM
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Understood.

But Proto, how does one go about negating such social contracts as Social Security and what not, without compromising one's ability live without hassle?

As far as I know once you have a birth certificate, you are now obliged in such a social contract are you not?

~Keeper



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by marsvoltafan74
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But the government, tries to make it impossible to not rely on the "luxories" it provides us.


They are in fact lawfully allowed to trick you into accepting these contracts.

It remains up to you though, since you have freewill as to whether you wish to be tricked or to voluntarilly submit to incuring a portion of the government's debts, that it is only passing on to you.

The truth is that the government owns plenty of land, and plenty of assetts and can collect tarrifs on imports and licensing and should be able to actually turn a profit if it ran itself as a proper fiscal enterprise.

The truth is, that it does not want to do that, because taxing you, enables the corporate government to get away with providing you less resources, goods and services and not more, as your own individual purchasing power to acquire these things independently is decreased, because of the portion of your earnings it syphons off from you through taxation.

So while the myth is, you owe this debt of taxation for goods and services the government provides, it is in fact all designed to minimize the outlay or resources, goods and services to you, and not to increase them.

Welcome to slave planet earth where everything is the exact opposite as presented to you!



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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In 1776 we fought for the government trying to force simple taxes. Today Americans don't even know everything that's taxed form them.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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In 1776 we fought for the government trying to force simple taxes. Today Americans don't even know everything that's taxed form them.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by marsvoltafan74
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In 1776 we fought for the government trying to force simple taxes. Today Americans don't even know everything that's taxed form them.


Actually it's a bit more complicated than that. In 1776 our forefathers fought a war to incorporate America under new management, and the new management took on a mountain of debt in that process.

Do you really think that the English, Dutch, Spanish, and French Monarchs and the Vatican that owned all the lands here, and had many of them levereged to and through financial institutions really just said, hey ok, you can have them?

No of course not, what they said is, alright you can MANAGE them, but you still have to pay us.

The Treaty of Paris is what actually established the United States of America and it was entirely dictated by the English King in his capacity as a Holy Roman Empire Prince, Prince Elector, and Arch-Treasurer.

The United States was incorporated into the Holy Roman Empire (Vatican) the Census was mandated, for the people to be taxed, to collect the funds to purchase the land.

However the English Monarch in his role as a Holy Roman Empire Arc-Treasurer retained the right to control our money, and through the 1st and 2nd United States Bank, and then the Federal Reserve, has made sure we have never paid off that debt, but in fact simply made that debt grow larger and larger, and larger, thanks to interests and penalties, and fresh lines of credit to keep Management operating.

All the people of this country have ever done, is been tricked into accepting a lot of myths and lies to pay for the very land through taxation, the government then sells and leases back to them.

This all eminates from the divine right of kings, where they believe you owe them a debt because they let you breathe the same air they do and allow you to live on their lands.

It's called free range slavery, and the Federal Reserve exists simply to quantify and qualify concepts of debt, into palatable forms for people, so they don't actually see the manipulation of debt through pieces of paper and electronic credits attached to nothing of value as a way to enslave them.

It's only been going on in various forms for about 5,000 years now, lets give it another 1,000 or 2,000 to see if it gets better!

What say you!



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Originally posted by ChemBreather
...And.... You are NOT obligated to Pay Tax unless you live in the 13 Freemasonic states !! You are fooled into believing so if you live outside of the First 13 States which Is United States , the rest is Americas, NOT Tax obligated to USA..
Not the Same Contry. LOL ..

Georgia GuidStones is set in the 13th State ! LOL . funny...
2013 , 33 years after its erection, what could happend ? !


That's actually not true, you DO have to file income and pay taxes.

There are laws which state you do, whether or not they are unconstitutional is another topic, but the laws exist.

Yes the fed is illegal based on the original constitution...

~Keeper

[edit on 5/19/2010 by tothetenthpower]

Hmm, I think it is, I heard a High Ranking Layer on C2C i Think it was..
Im not 100% sure ofcourse, I dont Live in the USA, so I havent put all that much time in it, but Something like that you would remember hearing !


And those arent Laws, you are made to believe it IS law and you MOST pay tax.. This is how 'they' Work, they lie and make up history in order to fool the entire Nation.
Even the American Revolusion was a Freemason FalseFlag to get the Charter signed for the FED...

[edit on 19/5/2010 by ChemBreather]



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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Understood.

But Proto, how does one go about negating such social contracts as Social Security and what not, without compromising one's ability live without hassle?

As far as I know once you have a birth certificate, you are now obliged in such a social contract are you not?

~Keeper


Capitas Diminutio Maximas is a Roman practice that dates back to the Republic.

julius gaius caesar is a free citizen who can not be taxed or encumbered by the State, Julius Gaius Caesar is a slightly deminished entity that can be taxed and encumbered by the State, JULIUS GAIUS CAESAR is a totally encumbered by the state and is deminished to the status of slavery.

Capital letters are in reality a destinction that denotes capital.

If born today in the United States julius gaius caesar would automatically be listed on his Birth Certificate which is actually a Bill of Lading as JULIUS GAIUS CAESAR, unless the following occured.

The birth was not registered by the state but recorded in a Family Bible. Recording a birth in a Family Bible is actually still accepted as a legal proof of birth by all States and Registrars.

Or the Parents refused to sign the Birth Certificate, or cancelled the Birth Certificate in 3 days.

When you turn 18 you have 60 days to cancel this contract.

However because you were tricked into this contract through non-disclosure, you can demand to have your Birth Certificate re-issued as either julius gaius caesar, or Julius Gaius Caesar, but you must first cancel all your social contracts with the government, by doing such things as surrendering your Driver's licesnse, your Social Security Card, your Votes Registration Card and any other Contract you have signed with the state where your name will have always appeared as JULIUS GAIUS CAESAR.

Now if you would like a State driver's license in the future you will want to have your Birth Certificate re-issued to appear Julius Gaius Caesar. You will be slightly encumbered by the state and slightly taxed by the state, and your knew driver's license will read likewise Julius Gaius Caesar, instead of JULIUS GAIUS CAESAR noting your new legal status under Capitas Diminutio Maximas.

If you are willing to post bonds with the state to indemnify yourself against any losses the State might suffer through your actions, and want to be a sovereign human being then you will want your birth certificate re-issued to say julius gaius caesar, a completely unincumbered and untaxed entity by the state.

Birth Certificates are actually used as a form of surety bond, where you are property, whose future labor and service has a fixed preset value.

The Corporate Government is able to borrow against that, and does.

By the way no where is it written that it is easy to be free, but let me tell you, it sure is fun



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 12:10 AM
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The law prohibiting monopolies is the Sherman Anti-trust act. It is a federal statute, just like the federal statute that creates the Federal Reserve. The only way the anti-monopoly law would trump the statute that creates the federal reserve is if monopolies were prohibited by the US Constitution.

The US Constitution does not explicitly prohibit monopolies. In fact, it seems to approve of them in limited situations (just as the Sherman act allows for monopolies in certain situations). In Article I, Section 8 the Constitution gives Congress the power to grant authors and inventors "the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries."




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