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Socialism is a disease! drinkingwithbob

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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 08:03 AM
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I cant speak for Greece as I am not a Greek, so as I admit, I know very little about how their political/economic/social/welfare system or standard of living compares to the US.

I can only speak of my country the UK.




posted on May, 20 2010 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Wotan
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
 


I cant speak for Greece as I am not a Greek, so as I admit, I know very little about how their political/economic/social/welfare system or standard of living compares to the US.

I can only speak of my country the UK.






Lets be realistic about this. Lets compare lifestyles from the US, UK and other countries? Then we may see how each 'system' pans out.


Yet you demanded we compare the U.S., to other countries beside the UK. Greece would qualify as another country. It is interesting that you began by declaring opposition to socialism as being filled with ignoramuses and now admit to your own ignorance.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by Wotan
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I cant speak for Greece as I am not a Greek, so as I admit, I know very little about how their political/economic/social/welfare system or standard of living compares to the US.

I can only speak of my country the UK.






Lets be realistic about this. Lets compare lifestyles from the US, UK and other countries? Then we may see how each 'system' pans out.


Yet you demanded we compare the U.S., to other countries beside the UK. Greece would qualify as another country. It is interesting that you began by declaring opposition to socialism as being filled with ignoramuses and now admit to your own ignorance.


Stop being pendantic. I never said that I knew of every countrys system did I?

I was hoping that others from relavent countries would contribute to the discussion. It is surely better to have someone from the relavent country discuss the merits or failures of their said system as opposed to someone spouting off about the country/system who neither lives there nor knows how the system works or are just brain washed.

I was hoping that what I said would be constructive in comparing systems. You obviously do not want to compare the US to any other system as you feel it would show up its failures too much.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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I was hoping that others from relavent countries would contribute to the discussion. It is surely better to have someone from the relavent country discuss the merits or failures of their said system as opposed to someone spouting off about the country/system who neither lives there nor knows how the system works or are just brain washed.


And yet, I know enough about Greece to know it is a socialist country that is in horrible financial troubles, and quite frankly so is the U.K. AND The U.S. as well:

www.bloomberg.com...

economix.blogs.nytimes.com...

dallasurbanblog.blogspot.com...

What has many people in the U.S. so angry is that they have seen this deficit climb as the rate of socialistic programs has increased as well. Further, people in the U.S. have a Constitution that protects their inalienable rights from the plunder of government, but that Constitution is being ignored in favor of obvious power grabs by both federal and state governments who refuse to do anything at all about reigning in the deficits, while continuing their steady march towards socialism.




I was hoping that what I said would be constructive in comparing systems. You obviously do not want to compare the US to any other system as you feel it would show up its failures too much.


Regardless of what you were hoping, your original post went like this:




Another Socialism is Bad, Capitalism is Good thread ....... surprise, surprise! ....... and from an American ...... no surprise there!

Are the majority of Americans really as ignorant as some members on ATS make themselves out to be?

Lets be realistic about this. Lets compare lifestyles from the US, UK and other countries? Then we may see how each 'system' pans out.


If you believe that language was a call to constructive criticism then perhaps you need pedants to hammer the point through to you that calling others ignorant simply because it FEELS right to do so, does not equate to informed debate.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 09:03 AM
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And you sir, are adding nothing contructive to the debate, just argueing pendantics and not answering the question.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Wotan
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And you sir, are adding nothing contructive to the debate, just argueing pendantics and not answering the question.



I most certainly did answer the question, here! You entered this thread spewing vitriol, and then backpedaled attempting to frame it as if you were only looking for informed debate, and now pretend you aren't getting it. You've added absolutely nothing to this thread, and outside of your initial vitriol, have spent the rest of the time defending your vitriol with no facts to support what so ever.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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NORWAY

They aren't in a recession, they have below 1 per 100,000 murders, very low corruption, economic freedom, one of the highest press freedom, one of the most democratic, an income of $70,000, a poverty rate of 4%, an unemployment rate of 3%, and one of the lowest income inequalities.


Well yeah.. they have oil though, but even without it you can just look at all the other nordic countries, we've been socialists for a while now and we don't have a FRACTION of the problems the U.S. has.

My only beef with Norway is that their fast food is twice as expensive!



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