Bold political prediction

Today, May 18, Rand Paul won the GOP primary in Kentucky. www.abovetopsecret.com...

We also have progressive democrats challenging the phony democrats in PA and AR today. My political prediction is a new future for our two parties.

Just like how the New Right emerged in the mid '60s made up of Social Conservatives and later Neoconservatives too. The New Left in the '60s made up of Liberals and later centrists too. There will be a new 'left' and 'right'.

The New Left will be formed through Populists, Progressives and Social democrats(moderate socialists). And the New Right will be formed through Populists, Libertarians and Economic liberals.

That is my prediction, what do you think?

The Illuminati will continue to fake the appearance of a healthy two party system. It simply facilitates predictable control.

reply to post by Misoir


This could be great if it came true, but it could also be dangerous if a populist wins because they wield enormous power. If the wrong person tricks the people into giving their support they could send us down a bad road in a hurry. However libertarians and economic liberals are much better than neocons. Socialism is a dangerous game but better than fascism IMO, which is the road we are currently meandering down.
Also, I'm really glad Rand Paul won. I just wish Ron Paul would of had about 10 kids that all became politicians.

[edit on 18-5-2010 by time91]

I hope your are right. The present political posturing is tiring and not productive. Both parties seem to need a re-charge and start offering real solutions and choice. In Canada they were going so far as suggesting giving us tax breaks if we vote. This misses the point completly. People are fed up and dicouraged with the gong show that passes as Congress/Parliment.

We need change and evolution

reply to post by Misoir


I believe that most of the country will lean more and more right, because conservatism is the only way to solve the countries problems. I expect that Americans are smart enough to clean the nation of Progressives, because they have seen how Socialism leads to the falll of nations like Greece.

reply to post by Hugh G Rections


Yeah I can't help but agree. Like take Brazil for example, they have 40% public debt, 28% income tax, they did not enter a recession, they have nationalized their oil, they have used social credit to help the poor start small businesses and get off of welfare, they have grown the middle class from 42% to 53% in 5 years, bulldozed slum neighborhoods and they have moved to middle class neighborhoods.

Lula da Silva is a die-hard socialist and he is ruining Brazil!

reply to post by Misoir

I think the bold prediction is a bit too vague.
I think you are suggesting that the people will be more involved in politics in the near future, that they are not clearly aligned with either the "old" left or the "old" right.
Is the "new" left more aggressively CENTRAL GOVERNMENT than the "old" left?
Is the "new" right more aggressively SMALL, CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT than the "old" right?
If that is what you mean, I agree. I also would hope the "new" left would not be deceptive and clearly state that is their intention. Be even MORE progressive than Obama. Just so the progressives can finally understand how out of touch they truly are.

Somehow the privileged class will sabotage both sides, because they have the power to do so. That is the grim reality.

reply to post by Stewie


Or maybe the conservatives will realize how out of touch they are. Living by primitive beliefs and a corrupt corporate government, too bad those progressives are so out of touch.

reply to post by Misoir

Do you really think corruption is a CONSERVATIVE thing? Or that conservatives somehow are the "corporate" party?
Voters will either line up for limited government, and whomever they believe represents that, or MORE government control over these so-called greedy corporate ghosts the MSM likes to tell us are responsible for all of our ills.
Ultimately, we the people lose either way! Not because the limited government crowd is wrong! It is because people cannot govern themselves. The masses are fools.

Good point. The biggest mistake people make is thinking "if only my people were in power, things would be different."

Corporations are not entities like Cylons operating in a pre set program. They are people (just like Unions, Government, the UN etc) making decisions that can be hidden behind a boardroom door.

The answer is to let go of political ideology and partisanship and move towards a system that works towards solutions.

Limit members of Congress to one term, review every program, every 5 years, have a public auditor, ban politicians from receiving campaign contributions from large special interest groups...things like this would be a start.

I see the coming change as restoration of democracy. In England a majority of people have opposed immigration, opposed EU membership and expansion, supported Electoral reform, supported the death penalty against e.g. child killers, opposed e.g. prisoners being fed meat or given TV's.

But our two party Con-Lab state has always found a way to get through elections without addressing these democratic concerns. But we now face change because a growing number of people, are beginning to think of ourselves as a e.g. "dysfunctional democracy".
That CAN'T be allowed to continue, because these conditions do (in themselves) enable the worst kinds of revolution (as can be seen in many other countries histories).
Once the people "wake up" they become a lot less opposed to e.g. violent revolution-military coup. I.e. the system is only stable, as long as the vast majority of people believe it is also "fair" (obviously not the same as being what they want) but its associating not getting what most people want, with how our system functions, that has all the political dynamite.

So the Liberal hold on power will either have to give way, or they will need to make some serious compromises. Compared to the current political climate, any thoughts of the restoration of greater democratic representation feels (to me) much like revolution!

When the "tea party" movement first began, I held out high hopes for it as a viable third party. It quickly became co-opted by neocon shills like Sarah Palin and became shuffled into the "conservative" category by both those on the left and the right.

TPTB cannot stand anything that goes beyond the stale, one-dimensional left-right linear spectrum. Any movement that attempts to do so will immediately be pigeonholed into the outdated 19th-century cateogories of "left" or "right."

Until we can force through a true movement that goes beyond left and right, TBTB will continue to divide and conquer.