Paul wins Ky. Sen. primary in test of tea party

reply to post by Hugh G Rections


Go buy your overpriced gold from Beck's advertisers, turn off the lights, and swallow the propaganda hard. I can't wait to see how Nov, 2010 will be spun when it turns out to be a more or less avg. off year election cycle.

Sure, the dem. congress (polled generally) may be unpopular, unless you are comparing it to the republican congress (polled generally). You must think people are pretty short-sighted if their going to 'come-home' to the GOP that brought us such glory over the last decade..

I watched Olberman tonight to see what he had to say about this and his spin on it was that each of both the Dems got more votes than Rand P got.

So I don't know what to make of that other than more dems came out to vote?

Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by skunknuts

 

Like I said, if republicans can't take Murtha's old seat in Pennsylvania (in a district McCain beat Obama), your little theory will be already have been proven utterly false by the end of this evening!

That district is heavy Democrat. If the R's win it, it will be great, but it's a long shot.

Don't read too much into Obama not winning that district; you'd have to understand that region of the country.

Research what Murtha himself said about the residents. Then you'll understand.

I'm sorry, but if republicans are expecting to have a wave election this fall, this special election is EXACTLY the type of race they should be winning. Do some research and compare 1994s early special elections that foretold the gop insurgency in the fall.

Again, McCain BEAT Obama in this district. This should be a shoe-in for the republican if you believe the posters that are constantly saying non-sense about how America is rising up against socialism, and the like....

Best,
SN

Best,
SN

Originally posted by Just Wondering
I watched Olberman tonight to see what he had to say about this and his spin on it was that each of both the Dems got more votes than Rand P got.

So I don't know what to make of that other than more dems came out to vote?

I predict the race between Paul and the democrat will be much closer than Paul's margin of victory tonight.

I believe we are seeing that the Democrats are fired up too (how else can you explain that both the winner and the loser in the democratic primary each got more votes than the winner Paul in the highly-popularized republican primary).

If Dems. were as depressed as they have been made out, there is no way that turn-out would be so high (in supposedly deep-red Kentucky, no less).

Sure, when the dust settles, Paul will likely win in Kentucky, but in the bigger picture, the GOP better not count their chickens, as they are still extremely unpopular as a party (for good reason)....

Again, if the republican loses to the Democrat in a district won by McCain, it will be a HUGE warning sign that Nov., 2010 will be much more complex than the GOP is making it out to be at the moment.

Best,
SN

[edit on 5/18/2010 by skunknuts]

reply to post by skunknuts




Well, I was hoping that I didn't have to spell it out to you in terms of black and white, but this is what Murtha himself said about the people in that district:

Murtha: Western Pa. 'racist' but Obama should win
www.breitbart.com...

John Murtha Calls Western Pa. 'Redneck
www.thepittsburghchannel.com...




This is why McCain beat Obama there.

Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by skunknuts

 

Well, I was hoping that I didn't have to spell it out to you in terms of black and white, but this is what Murtha himself said about the people in that district:

Murtha: Western Pa. 'racist' but Obama should win
www.breitbart.com...

John Murtha Calls Western Pa. 'Redneck
www.thepittsburghchannel.com...

This is why McCain beat Obama there.

And also why a republican SHOULD win tonight if one believes the theory that there is going to be a landslide in favor of the GOP this November.

These are exactly the people Obama called 'bitter', and 'cling to their guns and religion.' I'm sorry, but shouldn't this be ground zero for where the backlash against the democrats would be seen if it is for real?

Look at this great analysis:

www.fivethirtyeight.com...

Best,
SN

P.S. It's not like we know the results yet. Like I said, if the republican wins tonight, it will be a sign that Nov, 2010 will be bad for the dems. It is a good bellwether race, clearly, in my opinion. Something tangible, as opposed to the bloviating from the airwaves and blogs....

[edit on 5/18/2010 by skunknuts]

All I know is he pandered to the prolifers and the Christians so fo COURSE the typical pandering politician got the nod. He is nothing like his father, he could only dream of being as fine a man. Just another typical pandering politician, he is no tea party hero.

reply to post by skunknuts

And also why a republican SHOULD win tonight if their is going to be a landslide in their favor this November.

There will be no 'winner' per se tonight. These are the primaries. The real election will be in November.

Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by skunknuts

 

And also why a republican SHOULD win tonight if their is going to be a landslide in their favor this November.

There will be no 'winner' per se tonight. These are the primaries. The real election will be in November.

Thank you for trying to educate me, however:

The special election IS picking a winner. The winner will be an actual congressman. It is not a primary, it is a special election pitting a republican vs. a democrat in a district won by McCain in '08.

If the republican can't win here, it puts in doubt the GOP's grandiose expectations for this fall, and that is why I called it the most compelling race of the night.

If the republican wins, it will be ACTUAL evidence of a forming wave election this fall. The best evidence back in 1994 when the GOP had a wave was their winning of exactly this type of special election before the November general....

Best,
SN

[edit on 5/18/2010 by skunknuts]

reply to post by skunknuts


OK, I'll take your word for it. You can educate me this time.

I thought it was Specter against Sestak on the D side, and Toomey vs whomever for the R's.

Oh wait...now I see my error. You're talking about the race to fill Murtha's seat? My bad.

Sorry...I'm flipping between NBA and politics, not concentrating.

[edit on 18-5-2010 by mishigas]

Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by skunknuts

 

OK, I'll take your word for it. You can educate me this time.

I thought it was Specter against Sestak on the D side, and Toomey vs whomever for the R's.

Oh wait...now I see my error. You're talking about the race to fill Murtha's seat? My bad.

No problem. I'm not trying to spin anything at the moment. I just find politics, in general, a fascinating field.

The last I had heard before today is that it was 50/50 in the polls for the race for Murtha's old seat.

Like you said, this district is very blue-collar, white, and not liberal. If it goes republican, I will say that is good evidence for democrat trouble in the fall, and vice versa if the dem. pulls it out....

I see Sestak just beat Specter. He is more liberal, yet polls better against Toomey.

www.realclearpolitics.com...

My theory is that incumbents (moreso than dems or reps) will be under pressure throughout the primary season. That simple-thinking guy who said voters will ALWAYS choose the more conservative option has already been proven wrong several times, just tonight....

Best,
SN

P.S. Go Celtics!

[edit on 5/18/2010 by skunknuts]

reply to post by skunknuts

My theory is that incumbents (moreso than dems or reps) will be under pressure throughout the primary season.

That theory is shared by lots of analysts, and it is probably true. It will likely continue through the Nov. election, if any of them survive that long.

PS: Go Celtics! Talk about a close game!

[edit on 18-5-2010 by mishigas]

Congratulations to Mr. Rand Paul
I'm excited for him and the tea party movement.

I have been trying for a month now to figure out
just who Rand looks like and
it just hit me. Course it's only my opinion
But he kinda favors William Katt from The Greatest
American Hero tv series in the 80's



no offense to either party

I am a native Kentuckian and I don't usually feel pride in Ky actions. I do feel pride in this win for a pseudo-libertarian (I am essentially a libertarian as well so this is great, I wish he wasn't officially a rep. but I understand why he is). But, he is only potentially 1/100 US Senators. It is premature to extrapolate this primary win to other states, or even to September. I do hope he will win in Sept. and bring awareness to the actual constitution. I also hope that if he wins he sticks to what he is saying now, which is rare for politicians like our pres.

Terrific new. Tremendous blow to the establishment to have a young clone of Ron Paul in the Senate. I am seeing on various boards that what I perceive as operatives trying to say that Rand is different than his father. Possibly on some social issues he is more conservatives but as Ron Paul does he also favors State rights on all social issues so he is no different that Ron. He has the same love of small gov't and hates the wars and current foreign policy just as Ron Paul does and is a constitutionalist.

This is amazing stuff, so the paid online operatives can try and paint him as different but his record will stand on its own and when he votes along the same lines as his Dad you will once again be discredited.

Good Stuff

the bbc is spinning this..saying its all about anti-incumbent feelings...not a word about freedom or the laws of the constitution...

news.bbc.co.uk...

[edit on 19-5-2010 by alienesque]

reply to post by skunknuts


Just at a guess from your posts I'm assuming you support the Dems.
What I wonder is if you think they are going to do so well why are you so active on the anti Rep posts?

Also what the hell is your avatar,

Modern Humanist Iconoclast
Psychologist-King

What do you mean by the above?

on a side note::::

If I were the Fed right now
I would be getting worried.

All the new Patriotic blood coming in Nov
can pass laws to audit the Fed even with
a Presidential veto !!!!!!

hahahaha

time is short

And God said, your sins will find you out

YES that is a much welcomed sight to behold!!! I WILL BE donating to Rep. Paul! Guys and gals....we need to do what we can to ensure that this story goes VIRAL as a mofo!!

I see many people responding to threads/posts such as shadow gov agendas, police state, global governance with a tyrannical dictator at the helm, by saying WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT IT?!?! TPTB HAVE EVERYTHING LOCKED UP AND ITS A DONE DEAL, THERE IS NOTHING ONE PERSON CAN DO AGAINST THAT!!

Well....as I read those posts that reflect that all is hopeless sentiment, I most often tend to agree...reluctantly so, but I cannot criticize as I would be nothing more than a hypocrite should I do so....BUT!!

Here is a way that ALL OF US can do our part in rebelling against those (damn near ALL OF THEM!) corrupt criminals that is wiping their asses with our constitution, then feeding the media and us LIES (yes the media themselves do a fine job lying to us all as it is).

BUT IF YOU EVER ASKED YOURSELF...HOW CAN SOMEONE LIKE ME DO ANYTHING TO CONTRIBUTE? Well here is your opportunity!! I recommend sending out this news TO EVERYONE you have in your address book, and once that is done....man don't stop there!! Facebook, Myspace, every internet message board you can!! CHANGE WILL ONLY OCCUR IF WE THE PEOPLE FORCE TPTB TO DEVIATE FROM THEIR ORIGINAL INTENTIONS!!

For those of you that have never heard of a little something called "The Chaos Theory" (to bring order out of chaos), I suggest you educate yourself as THAT is what I believe to be one of the playbooks of the evil forces in this world, and what strategy they are using (as we see it all around us every day).

Here:

en.wikipedia.org...

So should you upon reading that STILL not understand as to how YOU....A LOWLY PATHETIC HUMAN BOTTOM FEEDER (YES that is what TPTB really do see us as), then take special note to this (and as it relates to this horrific game that the elite has been playing for centuries):

"Sensitivity to initial conditions"

"Sensitivity to initial conditions is popularly known as the "butterfly effect," so called because of the title of a paper given by Edward Lorenz in 1972 to the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington, D.C. entitled Predictability: Does the Flap of a Butterfly’s Wings in Brazil set off a Tornado in Texas? The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale phenomena. Had the butterfly not flapped its wings, the trajectory of the system might have been vastly different (even the evolution of simple discrete systems, such as cellular automata, can heavily depend on initial conditions, and Stephen Wolfram has investigated a cellular automaton with this property, termed by him rule 30)"


SO I THEN ASK YOU TO ASK YOURSELF....CAN YOU BE THAT BUTTERFLY? See the elite honestly thinks that they have enough of the world dumbed down, dependent, sedated, confused, manipulated, etc... And as a result they FULLY believe now that what they had spent centuries planning/implementing...that they are to have their way, and ain't a damn thing we can do about it!!

But there is ONE LITTLE DETAIL that I am willing to bet they are aware of, but are powerless to do anything about (hence the huge decades/centuries long brainwashing/brain overload/dumbing down) and that is they can set up and create initial conditions, and then drive those conditions in the direction that they wish to bring about their expected outcome, but see this is were the problem comes into play....something called VARIABLES. THAT IS WHY THEY WANT NO ONE TO BE ABLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES!! WHY HAVE THE FOUGHT SO LONG AND HARD? BECAUSE OUR MINDS TRULY ARE TPTB BIGGEST THREAT!! WE CAN CREATE OUR OWN VARIABLES AND INJECT THEM INTO THEIR MACHINE! PLEASE ALL...BE THE BUTTERFLY SO WE CAN TAKE THESE SUCKERS DOWN!!

Thanks...a little passionate on this topic lol

reply to post by hotbakedtater


This is absolutely right. Just because he's the son of Ron Paul doesn't mean he's any less of the typical scum that get elected every cycle. Instead of letting people have freedom of choice he pandered to the evangelicals. That's the only reason he got elected. Not because of his supposed views on the Fed, and the wars.

Depressing day honestly for me. I feel terrible for Ron Paul that this is the son that gets elected. I want to believe he'll be like his father but something just tells me he's the same as every other politician. I really hope I'm wrong on this...