Wow. Talk about sheep obeying what the farmer wants.

Any law, to state anything with appearance, is complete propaganda, and should be taken out of all law books everywhere.

Why do some people get so hot and bothered at what others choose to do, if that choice does not affect them in any way what-so-ever? Who cares if this women or any other women wants to wear a burqa? How does it affect you or anyone else? Shouldn't people be worrying about themselves instead of others, especially when they have their own obvious shortcomings? Jeez people, worry about yourselves and not what choice of clothing your neighbor chooses to wear!

--airspoon

I can't help but wonder what the people who work in banks think when they see someone walk in with their heads completely wrapped up?

I agree with the burqa ban, its a safety hazard. Though for some reason I can't help but wonder what the lawyer was wearing. I wonder how this will end up. It would be interesting to hear personal accounts from both people instead of jumping on the lawyer. I want to hear from her exactly why she did it and what drove her to do so.

The burqa is a symbol of slavery. It's not 'fashion'. It's oppression.

And yes, if a saw a woman walking down the street in chains, I'd yank them off too, even if that's what she thought she wanted to wear.

I guess lawyers are scoundrels regardless of nationality and sex...

That woman had no right to put her hands on another person. She deserved the face-full of fist given to her by the Muslim woman.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Well, freedom is freedom, and the lawyer is free to express her displeasure.

No that is called assault and allowing people to do such things at will just because it "offends them" is anarchy.

We use social pressure and public condemnation all the time in all societies, including Muslim societies.

Social pressure is not equivalent to assault.

In many Muslim countries, if her dress was out of line with the standards of the country she might be dragged off somewhere and lashed or even killed. She should be glad she lives in a moderate country where flouting the societal rules only gets her into a little scuffle.

What is up with that tonight? "But 'so and so' does 'such and such' so..." No. Just because in a repressed country something worse can happen does not mean that something lighter becomes more tolerable.

Good grief.

I thought this website was about denying ignorance.

It is ignorant to tell somebody what they can or cannot wear.

For God's sake it is her religion!

If her religion told her to walk around naked that's her right. Of course then it wouldn't be about women it would be objectifying them, and everyone would mandate laws that women cover up (oh wait, we already have those in most places..decency laws)

I'm just saying let her wear a head scarf. You know, instead of being totalitarian.

What I feel about rights to wear a this in a western equal nation is mixed, I support the ban for its abuse of me and psychological damage to my children to witness, but its a tough issue for respect has to be both ways.

I in no way support anyone laying their hands on another and ripping off their clothing, headgear or anything. That first action was assault and I can't blame the other woman for retaliating.

Absolutely no defense. Outrageous.

This lawyer needs to be behind bars for assault, plain and simple. The burqua is just a sub part of the crime committed. Assault is the main deal. How can this act be justified by anyone?

I cannot STAND punks who wear pants hanging to their knees. But would I DARE DREAM of yanking them off?? My God, how can anyone support the violent perp who did this? There is no logical way to do so and not be a condoner of violence against women.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
And yet you are a moderator, telling people what to do with their lives on this board, and restricting peoples free expression if they go too far.

I don't tell anyone what to do with their lives. Nice try at the moderator jab, and last I checked this is a privately-owned site.

Every society has rules, sometimes codified, often unspoken, that the members of that society conform to or they are ostracized or otherwise penalized.

Social ostracizing and social penalties are not on par with assault. I see people wearing clothing I think is silly or downright dumb pretty often, it doesn't mean that I can run up to them and pull it off. What repressed society are you hailing from?

Pretending that people have EVER, even in the freest of free societies, been able to disregard societal expectations is disingenuous.

Again, *sigh* freedom of expression does not go as far as allowing assault. You can't just go up to someone and rip their clothing off, I don't care what sort of society you choose to place yourself in. And that has nothing to do with being disingenuous, that has a lot more to do with common sense and decency.

Originally posted by niteboy82

I don't tell anyone what to do with their lives. Nice try at the moderator jab, and last I checked this is a privately-owned site.

So are countries.

We draw those little lines on the maps because the area inside the land belongs to the people who live inside those little lines.

And yes you do, and it wasnt a jab. I just dislike people pretending that they are really supporters of absolute freedom. None of us are. Its a ridiculous idea and societies dont work that way now, nor have they ever worked that way.

And a moderator is someone who enforces rules, not someone who oversees absolute freedom.