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The geologists thought the idea of burning the gas was smart and went ahead with lighting the crater on fire. As it turns out, the supply of quality natural gas below the crater is near infinite as the crater’s been burning since. At the time of this post, on June of 2009 the gas crater in Darvaza is still burning and has been since 1971 without interruption. No one can even imagine how much quality natural gas was burnt throughout the 38 years of the crater being on fire. No one can estimate how much more gas there still is. When they first lit the gas crater on fire, they thought the fire would go out after a few days. It’s been more than a few day, it’s been more than a few weeks or months. It’s been decades and the gas crater is burning just as it did the day it was first lit. Putting all economical loses from wasted natural gas aside, imagine the ecological impact this burning gas has cause during decades of non stop burning!
Originally posted by LiteraryOneTwo
reply to post by PositivelyDetermined
Which is worse, petroleum or nuclear power? The truth is that either are both good/bad depending upon how it is used, for peaceful purposes or hostile purposes, all according to the user. Accidents happen...chernobyl happened, the oil spills happen, man abuses his use of said products due to either negligence or incompetence. Both have proved to be an asset many times. It is foolish to blame a candle for starting a fire and then removing all candles simply because someone fell asleep at the wheel.
There is really no need to panic, but the worst must be accepted and acknowledged so that it can be correctedl. The worst is the leak without immediately making repairs and fixing it. Somehow or other BP got the pipe there so somehow or other they can repair it.
Originally posted by buddha
I have no faith in mankind at all. and I hope this kills of the human race totally. I am just sorry for all the animals who suffer because of us.
at what level will the gas drift? ground or high up? when it his a flame it will be a big fire ball. could blow a airplane up?
A hydrocarbon that is a greenhouse gas with a global warming potential most recently estimated at 23+ times that of carbon dioxide (CO 2 ).
[edit on 18-5-2010 by buddha]
[edit on 18-5-2010 by buddha]
Originally posted by odd1out
Google gCaptain go to "FORUMS" then to the "OFFSHORE" section, and see the thread in a forum of REAL offshore oilmen about the Deepwater Horizon and the oil "spill". I would suggest people respect the thread.
Originally posted by Sean48
Originally posted by tauempire
The government did it.
The worst part is they knew the folks on ATS and other conspiracy sites would go ballistic.....they essentially used your paranoia against you.
They knew you would by making up apocalypse scenerios and would essentially fear monger so they would not have to.
Pathetic ATS members...pathetic.
Its now obvious this was a ploy by certain people in the government to shift public opinion against offshore drilling and eventually in the favor of nuclear or wind and sun power.
Which is pathetic that none of you have even realized your falling into the trap.....your panicking and saying "all life in gulf will be dead arghhhhhhh!!!"
Look up the gulf of tonkin.....this is just like that except one thing.....there is no nation we are going to war with. But its used the same way...to sway public opinion.
Congradulations ATS members....you are now sheep.
Deny ignorance my donkey!!
So let me see if I'm understanding you.
The Government, Blew up a Oil Rig.. Killing 11 men...Spewing 60,000
Barrels of Oil a Day into the Gulf... So a FEW People in a Chat Room would
Over React.. to Impose their Hidden Agenda of Alternative Energy,,?
Is that what you are saying??
[edit on 19-5-2010 by Sean48]
Originally posted by webpirate
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
3000/1 gas to oil ratio is what BP was saying before this happened. They were pulling huge amounts of natural gas from this well. I'm not sure about monetary figures here, but if they were indeed capturing and processing that gas it seems like they would have more money from the gas than the oil even.
Folks, in evaluating this story, we really need to discriminate between units. Oil is measured in barrels, which is 42 gallons, or at about 8 gal./cubic feet, 5 ft^3.
Natural gas is measured in mcf or thousand cubic feet. To compare, both need to be converted to a common unit of measure, say, gigajoules, or MMBTU or million BTUs. People pay for fuels for energy content. Coal, at about 12,500 btu/ton, is about $65.00 for that ton
(price at the mine.) Natural gas, which is primarily methane, comes in at about 1,000 BTU per cubic foot at a cost of roughly $10.00 per mcf or a penny per cf. So that same 12,500 BTU costs $0.12.
Oil comes in barrels, at about 5.6 million BTU per barrel costs about $78.00 (today), so it is about $13.00 per million BTU, or about 13 cents for that same 12,500 BTU.
On top of that, you have to process it, store it and transport it, which adds incrementally to the cost. The bottom line is, incidental gas recovered with the oil is usually just burned off. If you ever drive through oil country at night you can see the plumes of burning gas.
[edit on 19-5-2010 by 4nsicphd]
Storms could scuttle cleanup efforts, force containment vessels to retreat, or propel spilled crude and tar balls over vast expanses of sea and beach.
Meteorologists say that climate conditions are ripe for an unusually destructive hurricane season, the storm-prone period that runs from June 1 to the end of November in the Gulf. Oceanographers say that could hurt the clean-up.
"If a storm comes into this situation it could vastly complicate everything," said Florida State University oceanography professor Ian MacDonald.
"All efforts on the shoreline and at sea, the booms and structures and rigs involved in cleanup and containment, could stop working."
Described as a "giant" find, it is estimated to contain 4 to 6 billion barrels (640×10^6 to 950×10^6 m3) of oil in place, although BP states it is too early to be sure of the size - a "huge" field is usually considered to contain 250 million barrels (40×10^6 m3).