Color Pictures of German Disks

The US military recovered many German scientists via the paperclip project after WWII.

Many years later, the US military was funding the Canadian Avro disc craft.

The Avro couldn't be flown, it was more like a giant lawn mower, and the project was disbanded.

What conclusions can we draw from these facts?

Is this a hoax? Not sure where i got the pic from, it was in connection with nazi's and russia, the Germans where into flying discs. theres a programme on channel 5 in the uk next wednesday about the German scientists employed by the Americans after ww2 to work on this kind of technology.

Perhaps these aircraft were engineered for the purpose of making the Germans appear more advanced in technology than they were , along the lines of the fake bombs and missiles they paraded along their streets during WW11 to make their arsenal seem formidable???

Yet again why get so Excited because of a disc? Everyone can create discs.
It's nothing more than a round shaped "box". It's the technology used that counts. And no there isnt *Alien* technology involved. Are they/military trying to copy the ^real^ ones?

These look like authentic German experimentation photos to me. I'm sure that alien beings are not prejudice as to who them visit, so the Germans could have recovered a crashed vehicle, studied it, and tried to reproduce the technology to the best of their ability and you are looking at the result. This does not really prove or disprove anything though. Even though I myself do believe in ufo's you have to look at the historical setting when these photos where taken. The German airfields were getting bombarded with bombing raids so more than likely these are just attempts to find an air vehicle capable of vertical lift off so that their air defenses would not be compromised.

In the VRIL it says on the blueprint under ANTRIEB( PROPULSION) it says ELEKTROMAGNETISCH ( electromagnetic) Wow I dunno if its a hoax but it would make sense for electromag propulsion

Hi,

While watching the pictures of that German saucers I noticed they looked rather familiar. Then I realized that they look a lot like George Adamski�s UFO pictures (specially the Haunebu II model, they look identical, at least identical to the blueprints)

I used to believe that Adamski�s pictures were a hoax, I�m still not convinced, but maybe the pictures he took were of this saucers, being tested by the americans, who had recovered them after the war.

Compare: this is how Adamski`s UFO looks like. Isn�t that a Haunebu II?

I am not sure about the actuation of the Flugscheiben,
it could be electromagnetical, antigravitation, ...

but at all I think, there were different kinds of Flugscheiben, some were driven like Helicopters but by electric motor, some could be driven by antigravitation, I've seen a book (only some centimeters thick), on title side I saw a flying source, was in a german Tv documentation "germany, your hobbyist's" on a mainstream Channel, it was only to see short time, cuz the old man, which had it, was usually showed because he invent a methane gas driven truck.


And I saw two undefinieyd flying objects, one next to the radio mast on a hill in W�rzburg, another time, I saw one in the "odenwald", both I saw in the daytime, first one was black, I lost it from my eyes, as it flew up to the sky, second one, had different colors, but I lost it same way out of my sight, as it flew up to the sky....

Don't know I said something interesting, only wanted to say it ^^

Well, now we know. All those UFO crashes and sightings had nothing to do with extraterrestrials. It was just Nazis looking for a place to hide.

Very interesting what Gazrok talked about. That Germany may have been the first to recover a crashed UFO. That could used to explain why Germany was so far advanced in some areas of air power. Just the stuff they built was amazing the flying wing,jet fighters,v-2 rockets. Then the stuff they had on the drawing board just out of this world for that timescale.

What about the reports from both sides of the enigmatic Foo Fighters reported in WW2 how do they tie into this?

If Germany did aquire alien tech it would seem it was far too advanced from them to master. Since if they did we would have been crushed by the Nazis. What hope would a P-51 Mustang have when put up against a alien ship from another world?

I'm posting this in hopes that someone else can help me get the link. I SWEAR I read an article from Fortean Times, either online or in an issue from several months ago discussing nazi ufos. The author went into length about the guy (of course the name is gone out of my head) purporting the nazi/ufo link was essentialy attempting to win over folks to the "Aryan"
mindset and the defense of nazism through the ufo route. The evidence was compelling. For the love of pete, does this jog anyones memory?

-Sincerly, Dane Bramage.

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Der Kapitan wrote:I'm posting this in hopes that someone else can help me get the link. I SWEAR I read an article from Fortean Times, either online or in an issue from several months ago discussing nazi ufos. The author went into length about the guy (of course the name is gone out of my head) purporting the nazi/ufo link was essentialy attempting to win over folks to the "Aryan"

Not sure if these are the same links you meant Kapitan, but they speak of the same glorification of Nazis thru the UFO myth
www.magonia.demon.co.uk...
www.forteantimes.com...
www.forteantimes.com...
BTW, a poster above mentioned the great leap forward with rockets & what not
Von Braun mentioned being inspired by the father of modern rocketry, Robert Goddard from the US. But Von Braun had what Goddard never had....slave labour. Amazing what you can achieve when you have a workforce that never gets paid.

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I looked at the images (the ones that worked anyway) and saw no reason to believe they were pictures of Nazi craft. I mean, I can take a picture of a metal saucer and say it's an old Nazi photo. They could just as easily have been movie props or old US and USSR craft.

RR- if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen

Originally posted by Esoterica
I looked at the images (the ones that worked anyway) and saw no reason to believe they were pictures of Nazi craft. I mean, I can take a picture of a metal saucer and say it's an old Nazi photo. They could just as easily have been movie props or old US and USSR craft.

RR- if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen

I don't particularly care if you believe it or not, it's not my site I was just passing on something I found interesting.

Sure some of the pics are not that believable but if even one is real then that, for me at least, changes my beliefs on UFOs dramatically.

Originally posted by RR

I don't particularly care if you believe it or not, it's not my site I was just passing on something I found interesting.

You're the one taking personal offense at people not believing the site. No one's saying you asre the hoaxer, but you asked for our opinions. Don't get upset that you don't like what ou hear.

Sure some of the pics are not that believable but if even one is real then that, for me at least, changes my beliefs on UFOs dramatically.

Sure, one might be real. But 'might' doesn't cut it for alot of people. You're gonna have to learn to accept that.

Originally posted by Esoterica
You're the one taking personal offense at people not believing the site. No one's saying you asre the hoaxer, but you asked for our opinions. Don't get upset that you don't like what ou hear.

I'm not taking offense to anything because again I could care less if you or anyone else believes the site or anything else for that matter. These pictures struck a cord with me, if you don't find them interesting then that's your reaction to the provided information and that's fine.

Originally posted by Esoterica Sure, one might be real. But 'might' doesn't cut it for alot of people. You're gonna have to learn to accept that.

I don't have to "learn" anything of the sort, I fully understand that we all have the right to differing opinions and I have no problem with that, my point again was that real or not this is some interesting information that could change the face of so called "ufology" if it were in fact true. Get it now?






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Thanks loads for the links! Zero Point you pulled my proverbial fat out of the fire, thanks again.

Other than the Vril, and some of the others there, there are some Nazi discs that aren't questionable at all...just an FYI. Some are even in some aircraft museums, hehe...

What about the reports from both sides of the enigmatic Foo Fighters reported in WW2 how do they tie into this?

Like their interest in military installations, it appears they were also observing the battle. Not to mention numerous tales of them seemingly testing the limits of our aircraft. It appears that neither side was capable of producing the performance of such craft though. The Nazi discs were attempts. If any had been successful, I'd suspect we'd all be speaking German right now.....

If Germany did aquire alien tech it would seem it was far too advanced from them to master. Since if they did we would have been crushed by the Nazis. What hope would a P-51 Mustang have when put up against a alien ship from another world?

Master? No, but get tips, sure.... Remember, most of these scientists then went to the US and the USSR after the war....and it seems that's when the real advances were made in both nations, in such areas as propulsion, etc. and gave birth to their space race. Had they had more time to reverse engineer even further, who knows where they'd be. Then again, it took us about a decade after Roswell to develop the U2, and then another decade or so to go to the Blackbird. Of course, things like the integrated circuit, fibre optics, night vision, etc. sure got a boost it seems....

My Grandfather on my mothers side was a belly gunner (Ball Turret) on B-17's during World War 2. Through most of his life he always had an interest in UFO's because of what he had seen as a belly gunner.

I will always remember him telling us stories of seeing the Foo Fighters running along the bomber formations at night, wisping in and out between the planes. He told us how the "Little Friends", which was the nickname they gave their fighter escorts, would chase the Foo Fighters to get images of them in their gun cameras.

He told us they always looked the same, little balls of light about 8 feet wide. He said sometimes it looked like they could almost see through them.

Because of my Grandfather I grew up with an interest in both the Paranormal and UFO phenomena.

After World War 2 he ended up as an aircraft inspector for McDonnell Douglas, he would evetually retire from them due to an accident that nearly cost him his life. During the course of working for them he told us little tidbits about experimental aircraft he was able to see while working for them. He had a penchant for telling us just enough and then pulling back without giving anything secret away. I only wish he had survived a few more years before succoming to Alzheimers so I could ask him about the Foo Fighters and MD Secret Projects he was able to see..

PP

Well, i believe that Nazi's had prototypes of saucers and such. US just got the hands on them, upgraded and *wooosh* .. flying all over the place.