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Originally posted by Zelun
So what are we saying here? We need to set limits on the expression of fashion and dance because it's making us look (or feel?) like perverts? I don't have the answer. It just seems to me, however, that modesty is a highly subjective principle, and if something offends your sensibilities you should by all means curtail your exposure, but don't expect everyone to share your indignation. Instead, try to figure out why it is you're feeling offended, and more importantly, why other people are not.
Originally posted by Raustin
reply to post by v3_exceed
I resent your implication that my disgust towards this video implies I am a pervert. I did not just see scantily clad young girls, I saw very talented young dancers who were allowed to perform a routine that in my opinion, was highly sexual.
I have no problem with the female body, I have no problem with sexuality. I do, however, have a problem with 8 year olds exposing their bodies in a sexual way. To label my views as 'puritan' is laughable. When a young lady hits 18 she should be allowed to be as sexual as she wants, but when she is 8, I expect her parents to be a little more discerning in what is acceptable.
Originally posted by v3_exceed
Originally posted by Blanca Rose
Originally posted by v3_exceed
Because you know the parents had ANYTHING to do with the costumes. You have zero sense of rational. It's a dance routine people.
Excuse me, when kids are this age, the parents take them for lessons, and know exactly what the costumes for such a production will look like before the show. They probably also took their kids for fittings, so YES, they knew ahead of time what the routine, and costumes would look like.
If they had protested enough about the costumes looking like lingerie, they would have been changed!
Having had 2 daughters go through formal ballet, I can assure you that you are 100% wrong. The parents bring them into the class in basic leotards and the correct shoes, the schools do the fittings. Kids at this level are not entrusted with the actual costumes, especially for something at a production level such as this. The parents may have been at dress rehearsals maybe not.
Secondly protesting the costume would not get the costumes changed, but might get your child excluded from an otherwise important moment in her life.
The costumes look nothing like lingerie, a swimsuit reveals more, and dare I say that if you think this is lingerie you really need to shop more. I suspect that you are just jealous of these young girls and using this as an opportunity to vent. Back to your bridge now.
..Ex
Originally posted by v3_exceed
Originally posted by Wolf321
Allow a child to sling sexuality around scantly clad for cheers should hardly constitute an important moment in her life.
The fact that all you see when you view that video is scantily clad children is clearly disturbing, but I digress...
This thread has obviously been taken over by the self proclaimed puritan group of ATS. It has become painfully obvious that anyone who doesn't agree with these types is quickly labeled a bad parent or worse.
The production as seen in the video is a world class production, and not something you would find at the local Community Center, but I really wouldn't expect most of the posters in this thread to know the difference.
..Ex
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Parents do see the costumes and have a say in whether or not their kids are wearing it - but letting them perform or not.
And those girls did not learn that routine in ballet class. lol They now have hip hop and contemporar classes for little kids. Thats were those girls learned those moves - not ballet where you wear uniformed black leotards and light pink tights with ballet shoes.
Originally posted by v3_exceed
Personally I find nothing sexual or physically appealing about the dance, but really it's not meant to be physically appealing.
When you or if you go to an art gallery, and you see a bust of a naked female adult do you drop your pants and commence fapping? I would suspect not, and not because naked female form isn't appealing, but because the ART is not physically appealing.
The dance is ART, if it offends or if it pleases it has still done its job and caused people to think.
Originally posted by Raustin
reply to post by Republican08
I disagree, and not just because I can't even do a box step. I think they were amazingly good, remember they are 8.
Originally posted by MAC269
The children are in swim suits. The problem is not the children or even the parents it is the dirty minded adults watching.
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Originally posted by MAC269
The children are in swim suits. The problem is not the children or even the parents it is the dirty minded adults watching.
For every year that passes we are making the line that divides children from teenagers from adolescents from adults harder and harder to see. The result is a generation of children that get treated like adults and a generation of adults that get treated like children!
[edit on 17/5/2010 by Dark Ghost]