still waiting for you two things.

that you stop referencing things that don't relate to this oil volcano, such as the evaporation statistic from teh gov't website. i will find the source but if you hadn't noticed, most of the oil is BELOW water and therefore CAN'T evaporate. It is believed that only 2% of this mess is on the surface.


also to admit that you are wrong. its such a sad thing but the oil will eventually make its way to florida. once it hits you locally you'll hopefully come to your senses and stop trying so hard to make people think its 'not that bad' the lengths you are going to to do this are ridiculous and you are just making yourself look like a fool in doing so.

once i see these long drawn out rebuttals to a simple debate I know that I've won the argument. you are trying so hard... its like someone trying to convince others that the sky is green. if you look and gather data points, even if they don't relate or in anyway prove your hypothesis, you start believing yourself that the sky is green.

i actually feel sorry for you. when reality hits you like a ton of bricks and you awaken from your self created propaganda gulag you have entrapped yourself in, it won't be pleasant.

don't ya think its about time you stop making a fool of yourself and start looking at the facts? look how much devastation is going on. its unbelievable the lack of any sort of response from the gov't. as rome burns there are A LOT of upset people who's livelyhoods have been devastated from this epic disaster.

go try telling some of those who live on the gulf coast, those whose livelyhoods have been decimated, that this 'isn't that bad'. show them all your references, links, graphs, photos, historical data points and convince them that this isn't that bad. better wear a bulletproof jacket when you do though

[edit on 25-5-2010 by insideNSA]

Originally posted by insideNSA
that you stop referencing things that don't relate to this oil volcano, such as the evaporation statistic from teh gov't website.

So you want me to stop referencing articles, factoids, science papers, history, etc that provides insight into understanding the dynamics of crude oil and oil 'spills'?



You haven't really responded directly to much of anything, anywhere. That's important because I asked you if you really want to understand this sort of crisis, or if you just want to be ignorant to how these things work so you can just operate under the premise of it being "REAL BAD" in order to more effectively propagate guilt and fear. Although I should have put it "AS BAD AS POSSIBLE".

also to admit that you are wrong.

Wrong about WHAT?? This is one reason I keep begging to be quoted. This thread is about disinfo'esque OILPOCALYPSE doomongering. Since you won't specify what I'm wrong about, should I just suppose that you're implying I'm wrong about this not being some sort of 'Extinction Level Event'?

once i see these long drawn out rebuttals to a simple debate I know that I've won the argument.

Denial can be an ugly thing.

I provide numerous links, quotes, images, historical comparisons, science papers, impact assessment reports, articles, and etc and in response all you do is say "admit that you're wrong", and somehow you've had some sort of victory?

i will find the source but if you hadn't noticed, most of the oil is BELOW water and therefore CAN'T evaporate. It is believed that only 2% of this mess is on the surface.

Who believes that? More talk and majority of the time I follow up on these sorts of claims its just made up. You speak of victory yet never have any citations.

Do you even know what oil is? Can you describe it? What is in it? What oil ISNT?

[edit on 25-5-2010 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

So you want me to stop referencing articles, factoids, science papers, history, etc that provides insight into understanding the dynamics of crude oil and oil 'spills'?

did you read my post? yes i want you to stop because your 'factoids' are irrelevant!

your use of bold big font is as impressive as your logic that this isn't that bad.


go try telling some of those who live on the gulf coast, those whose
livelyhoods have been decimated, that this isnt that
bad. show them all your references, links, graphs
photos, historical data points and convince them that it isnt that bad. better wear a bulletproof jacket when
you do though

[edit on 26-5-2010 by insideNSA]

IgnoranceIsntBlisss: I'm going to give you credit, a pat on the back, because you must be feeling unappreciated right now. Folks, Mr. Ignorance is giving us REAL data. Now, I'm more than willing to believe that this oil spill is an 'extinction level event', but I want facts first. Frankly, I don't see enough facts supporting that assertion to believe it. Just because a news story reports that an area may be evacuated as a result of the oil leak, it doesn't mean that Mr. Ignorance's numbers are wrong. No, a news story with updated numbers far beyond what was initially imagined would do that. Where is that?

And yes, they may possibly evacuate Tampa. This is due to the burning of oil slicks. Neither I nor Mr. Ignorance claim that this oil would not hit Florida and cause damage. And yes, that is a big deal. But is it the end of the world? Probably not. Fact is, we rape our planet on a daily basis. Yes, some reefs will be damaged. But at the same time, for example, you have to keep in mind that we are purposefully destroying the world's last remaining rain forests as I type. Why aren't you freaking out about that? If you're going to freak out about this oil spill, you should be freaking 24/7/365 about what is happening to this planet of ours.

I want hard statistical evidence that refutes Mr. Ignorance's data on the rate that the oil is leaking (20,000-60,000). OK, someone earlier referenced some ridiculous statistic from George Ure. Well, if you didn't know, George Ure has a degree in business administration. WTF does he know about estimating oil spills/leaks? I want stats from someone with the appropriate credentials. What I do know is that Ure runs a site called "Replay 1929" and that he profits off of such hysteria.

The fact is that the media is playing you for a fool with all of these 'disasters'. Every year they pinpoint something close to our shores (or within our shores) to make us freak out about. It's all for profit. I guarantee you that companies like CNN bank on there being a major disaster every year to supplement their ratings/revenue. As soon as they smell blood, they descend on it like sharks and scream like crazed monkeys. It's a proven money-maker.

Globally, coral reefs and rain forests are undergoing a slow extinction, taking all of our planet's biodiversity with them. Yet no one cares about that, no. But when something affects our economy, it's HUGE #ING NEWS, MAN. The Gulf oil leak is going to be a disaster for a few years, tops, but humanity will survive. Seriously, wake up, our economy is bull#, anyway. We have massive overproduction and waste (from the overproduction), yet we see people being forced to live check to check, like slaves, to the point that something like an oil leak/spill will ruin their lives. Why should it be this way? But no one asks those questions, the important, intellectual questions. No, we just jerk our knees and complain fruitlessly at whatever Big Media points their cameras at. WAKE UP, I'M WARNING YOU, FOR MY SAKE.

Will it be news when the last tree is cut down in the Amazon to provide you with printing paper or a $0.05 pencil?

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[edit on 29-5-2010 by ireallyknowthetruth]

[edit on 29-5-2010 by ireallyknowthetruth]

still waiting ignoranceIsBliss.... still waiting for you to admit you are wrong.

btw, hope you have a nice pair of boots for when that crap reaches florida

still waiting mr ignoranceisnotzeeblissssssssss







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