Do you think porn should be illegal?

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posted on Jun, 13 2004 @ 01:17 AM
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Why do people have such hang ups about nudity and porn? We are all either having sex, or wanting sex. It is completely natural.
We all have the fun parts and see them on a daily basis. What is the big deal?
It seems that the people whom think Porn should be illegal have their own issues based on personal experiences .
It is so funny to me that we seem to condone violent images in the media , but nudity and sexually implicit material is "bad" and "immoral".
Bring on the boobies!









posted on Jun, 13 2004 @ 01:25 AM
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I noticed this, "I assure you that it is porn. Porn results in people thinking less of the opposite sex as people, but more as toys for their own needs."

Really, get a life. We older people can still find where it is, where the cheese binds. Sorry that Mom & dad didn't work out, but don't project that on everyone.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by EmbryonicEssence
Well, I'm sorry to sound crude, but, who are you to judge? You're 18 years old - you haven't even started life yet. Until you've lived life, don't cast judgement.

Your lack of experience with life truly shines through and you have a whole helluva a lot to learn.


Well you don't know me, so you have no clue as to the life I've lived.

I gurantee my view on things and my mentality will get me a lot further than those of you who can't get past sex long enough to make yourselves productive.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by Surreal_Rain
Well you don't know me, so you have no clue as to the life I've lived.

I gurantee my view on things and my mentality will get me a lot further than those of you who can't get past sex long enough to make yourselves productive.


That is an incredibly lucid thought. I like it. How does it relate to porn?



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 01:40 AM
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It relates to porn because people who can't get their minds off porn are probably not going to be very productive. An addiction of any kind is bad...and what is porn?

Believe me, porn isn't doing any good. If a person wants sex, then they should get themselves a commited relationship. Most porn watchers that I know, simply can't get any action elsewhere, so they turn to porn, which it rather pathetic.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 01:42 AM
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OK, what about couples that view porn togther to enhance their sex life?



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 01:47 AM
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If there's a problem in a couples sex life, then there's obviously some deeper problem that should be delt with. Porn may temporarly mask whatever's wrong, but it won't solve anything.

A couple needs to go to the root of the problem and work on it without the use of porn. Porn is the easy way out.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 01:53 AM
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Dude, you really have to get with the 21st century.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by Surreal_Rain
It relates to porn because people who can't get their minds off porn are probably not going to be very productive. An addiction of any kind is bad...and what is porn?

Believe me, porn isn't doing any good. If a person wants sex, then they should get themselves a commited relationship. Most porn watchers that I know, simply can't get any action elsewhere, so they turn to porn, which it rather pathetic.


There are extremes in anything, sure there are porn addicts, that doesn't mean that every person who watches porn is an addict.

On your second comment, if your friends are not in a commited relationship and using porn to fulfill a biologically natural human desire, don't you think it is safer then sleeping around? Porn watchers are not excluded to those who cannot get action, many couples use it to enhance thier intimate realtions as well.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 02:02 AM
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What I ment is that if a couple is experiencing sexual problems, then it's a psychological issue that should be delt with. After all, the mind controls the sex drive.
And like I previously said, it's sad when sex is the biggest issue in a relationship.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 03:45 AM
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Surreal_Rain, I really really think you should stop generalising. Unless you know the whole entire world and his wife, you have NO right to say trust me.... Because frankly, you don't know everything, you're only 18, and from your writing it looks as if you've been brought up with very strict views and perhaps had bad experiences with guys? Or not, as the case may be...(which is none of our business).

Sex is a perfectly natural and healthy thing, whether for love, enjoyment or just to be plain dirty, it's a beautiful thing, as is the human body.

Have you not stopped to wonder why no one has agreed with all of your views yet, some being alot older and more experienced than you are. And yet you seem to think everyone else is wrong, may I ask why? Everyone is entitled to their own view, which includes you, but saying such warped things as 'why can no one else see' is a little naive.

P.S- 18?? You poor sods! Haha, here the legal age of consent's 16


XL5

posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 03:51 AM
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What about internet fourms as an addiction? What about couples learning new stuff from porn and not just being stimulated by it when together, that be like going to school and after grad. not wanting to learn anything again. The quest for pleasure/happyness and knowledge and love is an addiction, otherwise you become a robot/worker ant.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 04:35 AM
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Let me just inform you all that I have studied enough psychology to know what I'm talking about. I know how the human mind works, and the reasons relationships suffer. It's all psychological, so therefore porn isn't going to save it.

I am entitled to my opinion, so I would appriciate if everyone would respect that. If you chose to let sex control you lives...have at it, but some of us are not that pathetic.


XL5

posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 04:57 AM
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Love and happyness sadness is "psychological" as well, to be efficient we could just do away with it and all other emotions as well. Being called pathetic for a freedom, a choise that we poses is wrong. Your avatar says "set me free"...... if robots knew of emotion.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 05:04 AM
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Surreal_Rain-
Seeing as how you are only 18 and, admittedly, have had no experience with sexual relationships, what makes you such an authority on this subject? Why should those of us who have had serious relationships, and first hand experience in the world of sex and sexuality, take the advice of someone who has had neither?
Your statements,

My view of sex comes from having a very protective upbringing. My whole opinion of humans is low, as most of them lack morals or respect for themselves.
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This is exactly why I choose to stay away from people, they are more disgusting than animals.

give me the impression that you were brought up thinking that sex is dirty or perverted. I would be very interested to hear what you were taught about sex and boys growing up, if you care to share it. I can't help but think that the way you percieved your parents' physical relationship to be, has had a major impact on your feelings towards sex in general. There is a strong sense of fear or anxiety about sex and men that comes through in your posts. It's like your fear about being pressured into betraying your personal values has taken on a life of its own and become a phobia.

There is nothing wrong with having strong morals and values, or with waiting for sex until you find the right person. Any guy who would try and pressure you into sex when you aren't ready is an asshole who doesn't deserve the time of day, and the person you finally do decide to be intimate with will be very lucky.
That being said, you should not be so quick to judge all guys based on what liitle experience you may have had so far. Young guys can be immature on the subject, but you will find as you get older, sex is not all that people see as important (even those who watch porn). Guys reach their sexual peak at around 17 or 18, while women reach theirs at aboiut 30. The boys that are your age right now, are dealing with an overwhelming amount of testosterone, which is why they are always thinking about sex. For most men, as they start to mature mentally, their priorities will shift, and sex won't be the first thing on their minds anymore (it'll drop to 2nd place).


I gurantee my view on things and my mentality will get me a lot further than those of you who can't get past sex long enough to make yourselves productive.

...people who can't get their minds off porn are probably not going to be very productive. An addiction of any kind is bad...and what is porn?


Out of curiosity, what constitues an addiction in your book, exactly? Do you actually think that everyone who looks at pornography, ends up just sitting around obsessing about sex, to the point that they cease to be productive members of society? Yes there are a small minority of people who become "porn addicts", but they do not represent the whole viewing audience, by any means.

I don't know if you realize this, but pornography has existed for as long as there have been naked women and something to draw on/with. If you want to blame society's declining morals on something, maybe you should consider the mainstream media, rather than the hidden world of porn. It seems to me that the constant bombardment of sexual images and innuendos people encounter everyday in almost all advertisements, TV shows, movies and music, have far more influence on a kid's, teenager's, and/or young adult's perceptions of sexual relationships than anything. Pornography is still a predominately taboo subject in mainstream society, most people don't sit around talking about the latest Seymore Butts production at the coffeeshop.

One more thing, do you think showing panda pornography to male panda bears in order to arouse their desire to mate, will lead to the degeneration of panda bear morals? www.cnn.com...



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 06:13 AM
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One more thing, do you think showing panda pornography to male panda bears in order to arouse their desire to mate, will lead to the degeneration of panda bear morals? www.cnn.com...


Panda porn! Oh those poor lady pandas, they're just a piece of a...



[edit on 14-6-2004 by LadyCool21]



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 11:41 PM
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There is a strong sense of fear or anxiety about sex and men that comes through in your posts. It's like your fear about being pressured into betraying your personal values has taken on a life of its own and become a phobia.


Isn't our fears what moves us? Everyone's thinking is influenced by fear.


Out of curiosity, what constitues an addiction in your book, exactly? Do you actually think that everyone who looks at pornography, ends up just sitting around obsessing about sex, to the point that they cease to be productive members of society? Yes there are a small minority of people who become "porn addicts", but they do not represent the whole viewing audience, by any means.


addiction (-dkshn)
n.

Habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control....

I never once said sex was bad, the point I've been trying to make is that sex should be between two people. I'm not a religious person, so I'm not trying to preach here, but it does upset me to see how lightly the world treats such personal matters.

As we all know, it's so easy to become addicted to anything. What bothers me is how consumed by sex everyone seems to be.

I'm through with this thread. So anymore replies directed towards me will not be read.



posted on Jun, 14 2004 @ 11:52 PM
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Sureal rain, "I'm through with this thread. So anymore replies directed towards me will not be read."

Sorry to hear that, as I was about to get to the point.

Obsessing about porn at 18, who cares. Obsessing about porn at 25, sad. Obsessing about porn at 40, call the cops, if a guy hasn't got it right by this time AND he's obsessed with sex, he's probably a problem that needs locking away. BTW, I'm not obsessed, just interested.



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by Surreal_Rain
Let me just inform you all that I have studied enough psychology to know what I'm talking about. I know how the human mind works, and the reasons relationships suffer. It's all psychological, so therefore porn isn't going to save it.

I am entitled to my opinion, so I would appriciate if everyone would respect that. If you chose to let sex control you lives...have at it, but some of us are not that pathetic.


Well let me just inform you, that so have I. Also my Mother, sister and her best friend all have degrees in psychology, and they agree with me too

Now, as I said before, everyone is entitled to their opinion, as are you quote: but some of us are not that pathetic... erm, you do realise you said this straight after I am entitled to my own opinion, and I would appreciate everyone to respect that. ? So I'm thinking either we're not, OR you're not very good at non-bias debating



posted on Jun, 15 2004 @ 08:42 AM
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Funny replies, good reples (didnt read the whole thing...). Big topic.





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