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Frank Field defects to Cameron's coalition to be the nation's 'Poverty Tsar'

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posted on May, 16 2010 @ 08:12 AM
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Frank Field defects to Cameron's coalition to be the nation's 'Poverty Tsar'


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Frank Field defects to Cameron's coalition to be the nation's 'Poverty Tsar'

By Simon Walters
Last updated at 8:36 AM on 16th May 2010

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Former Labour Minister Frank Field is to ‘defect’ to David Cameron’s new coalition Government by taking on the role of Britain’s ‘Poverty Tsar’, it was revealed last night.

Social conservative Mr Field is to lead a major review into poverty as part of Mr Cameron’s promise to tackle what he calls ‘Broken Britain’ –
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posted on May, 16 2010 @ 08:12 AM
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To those not familiar with British politics it may seem that the recent election, and subsequent coalition government is a shining example of the resurgence of popular participation in the political process.

The people spoke, of a fashion, after voting Blind Date style for their favourite colour of management consultant, and the NWO became the de-facto government. Try finding an anti globalist in the new government, or even anyone fighting for democracy in the dictatorship known as the European Union.

But now a Labour member has defected to the new rainbow coalition of agreement. Frank Field MP is to be appointed the new 'Poverty Tsar'. (Why do they insist on having Tsar's, particularly after what the globalists did to the last one in Russia?)

Field was last in cabinet in 97 when he was made Welfare Minister by Tony Blair with a brief to cut benefits for the unemployed. (And please people, let's not confuse the unemployed with work shy scroungers. We see jobs being lost all day due to the globalists but we fall for their propaganda when we blame the unemployed for the lack of jobs. The unemployed don't run the economy, they just suffer it).

Strangely, this isn't the first time that Field has found common cause with the Conservatives. In his youth he had been a member of the Conservative party. His reasons for leaving were that he disagreed with the Conservatives support for the apartheid regime in South Africa. Noble perhaps, unless you consider that this was only one of a myriad of objectionable behaviours and policies from the aristocratic Conservative party at the time. It seemed that repressive far right policy was fine so long as it was kept to policies for the UK.

Field was eventually elected to Parliament as a Labour MP in 1979, where he was selected for the Labour safe seat of Birkenhead. The then somewhat wild looking Labour leader Michael Foot made Field an education spokesman but dropped him a year later. Although Foot was an avowed Socialist he was also fiercely opposed to the European Union and campaigned fervently for Britain to leave the EU.

Foot was painted in the press as a lunatic and after the drubbing he received at the 1983 election a new leader was selected for Labour. Although his globalist EU links were not yet known the man selected was Neil Kinnock, a man who could not win an election but who went on to be one of the most powerful politicians in Europe. Just for good measure, his wife also got on the gravy train as a Member of the European Parliament.

Kinnock seemed to like Field and made him a spokesman for health and social security, the opposition brief that he held until the 1997 election win by Tony Blair and in the political area that he is still known for today.

All this may seem so very ordinary to many but it is Fields membership of the cabinet that makes me think this is an EU picked government, achieved through the 'common purpose' that David Cameron has mentioned.

Field is an expert on social welfare and although a Labour MP his whole Parliamentary life, he has some less than straightforward links with the Conservative party (sometimes also known as Tories).

Two nights before the Conservative party leadership election in 1990 Field went to the embattled Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

He told her to resign and back John Major as the next leader.

Take a moment to consider that. An opposition MP, and not a high profile one, who should have been pleased with the mess the Conservatives were in at that time, went to Downing Street to see one of the most formidable British Prime Ministers of recent decades, at a time she was fighting a desperate battle for political survival, and told her what to do. Even more staggeringly, she did exactly what he said.

Ask the public about Field and they will probably say ‘Who?’ but even the few that have heard of him would probably not suspect him of being the king maker of the Conservative party.


Thatcher herself is legendary, and polarising, in political opinion with as many loathing her brutality as lauding it. Perhaps unsurprisingly by now, Frank Field is a big fan of Margaret Thatcher and even described her as ‘certainly a hero’. Many remember Thatcher as an anti European, fighting the British corner. The truth is more staid. Thatcher signed every single one of those treaties that signed away British sovereignty. How far did she stand up for Britain, and how much was for the camera? Thatcher led Britain further into Europe than anyone could possibly imagine in 1979 and, when she passed her sell by date, she was ordered to stand down. By Frank Field.

And now that same MP Field is in a cabinet with Nick Clegg, one of the most pro European politicians of his day, and David Cameron, the establishment trained front man for Fields old party, the Conservatives.

It is my view that the presence of Field in the cabinet is a worrying omen. This man, who is a member of the free market think tank Reform and the new conservative magazine Standpoint, works in the background. His public face as a Labour representative of the people is very much at odds with his private political practices as a Conservative. This is no crime, and I am sure Mr Field would deny none of this, but it is unusual enough to make me dubious of his statements. Couple this with the de-throning of Thatcher and his bizarrely intimate involvement with it leads me to think that, like Lord Mandellson, Field is Europe’s man in the Cabinet.

The strings are being pulled tighter and the puppet masters are, I believe, becoming more visible. Currently the public seem to be distracted with the novelty of the recent election, a process more akin to reality TV and, just like reality TV, the public is suckered by the lights.

Many people may point to Mr Fields work with charities and organisations that promote workers rights and an end to poverty. Nobel ideals indeed, but it is the implementation of those ideas that will tell the real story. Stalin claimed just the same noble and egalitarian ideals as Washington, but they both implemented those ideals very differently.

Many may point to Fields questions in the Commons opposing EU legislation. In reality they are mild and easily ignored by the Chamber, but enough perhaps to sow some plausible deniability. As we have seen Mr Field manages to juggle political views in a way that many would find challenging, to say the least. The European Union has much more in common with Soviet communism than it does with the 21st Century’s rarest commodity, democracy. Make no mistake, Europe has made a power grab and I believe Field will be a source of problems for the people of Britain. The wind blows from the East once more.









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posted on May, 16 2010 @ 09:06 AM
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British social security/welfare does need root & branch reform. There's too many benefits (40+), it's a system mindbogglingly difficult for the average person to navigate, too complex for the civil service to administer reliably.

It leaves low paid workers worse off than their equivalents who don't work, it's led over the years to grandfather, father and son passing welfare dependency down through the generations. It rewards fraud (they don't have sufficient investigators), it penalises work (by knocking wages off benefits pound for pound), it rewards those who exaggerate illness with a lifetime at the public expense, it leaves genuinely disabled people struggling to get the help they need.

Frank Field, Ian Duncan Smith both have a genuine interest in reforming "the system". Whether they'll get the backing of Liberal backbenchers for any reforms they suggest, during this fragile coalition, is another thing altogether.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 09:21 AM
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I'd be inclined to agree but I was thinking in the post more of Fields strange affiliations to organizations that seem mutually incompatible, moving on when it suits and being influential without being obvious.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 11:50 AM
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Nobody here's interested about Frank Field, his politics, friendships etc. You'd get more attention were your thread about a carrot shaped like a penis.

American ATS'ers aren't interested in much beyond their own borders, certainly not about Field, his politics, associations & friendships. British politicos go elsewhere to discuss such things, that's something you might wish to consider.

I don't see where you're going with it anyway, EU's man in the cabinet etc. He's a soft spoken man, ineffectual in many ways, lacks the ability to carry his colleagues or persuade his opponents either. He's a well meaning maverick who crosses the party divide from time to time, revels in his unorthodoxy and as a good constituency MP is popular in his local area. He's made friends on both sides of the house (can we say "both" sides anymore ?) ... hence the Margaret Thatcher thing ... that sums him up, really.

I see no conspiracy.

The new government wants some ideas about welfare reform, hence him and IDS, they lend the whole enterprise some credibility. But the government will baulk at the their proposals, it'll be watered down assuming any benefit reform passes at all.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 12:13 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree. A system that makes it more financially rewarding to stay on state benefits then take a job is perverse. I'd even say immoral.

Labour tried to tackle this but chickened out when they realised what it would do to their core vote. Thats why fields first report got shelved in the 90s

This coalition are doomed anyway. Winning this election is a 'hospital pass' given the financial measures they are compelled to take. Labour knows this.

They may as well go for broke and slay as many sacred cows as possible in five years they have.

Its not a conspiracy. Its just low politics.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 02:43 PM
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Well, thanks for the ideas but I'm still not talking about the benefits system and if it's penis shaped vegetables you are after, I'm sure you have your own bookmarks to refer to.



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