Schwarzenegger's solution to California's budget woes: End welfare, page 12
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reply posted on 18-5-2010 @ 03:38 PM by RedCairo
Arnold TRIED to deal with this AHEAD of time in case nobody remembers! You know, when the teacher's union allegedly spent *12 million dollars* on advertising against his proposals? And his special called-for vote went down in flames? And he basically had to go public and admit that what he thought was best was obviously not what the voters wanted?

People get the government they deserve. People wanted the unions. Arnie was such a bad guy. [edited to remove a comment that was ... uncalled for, though not horrible, still not kind, and unnecessary.]

When I left California in 1995 I was the last of every acquaintance and extended family we knew to flee like a refugee. It cost 3-4x more for me to rent a U-Haul out of the state than into it. I visited friends in AZ, OR and WA all of whom griped about the astonishing number of 'immigrants from California' in the previous 5 years and how it had affected housing prices.

AS is the best thing that happened to that state in a long time but they made it clear they don't really want things like responsibility or economic viability.

Arnold is trying a last ditch effort to either help or more likely, to force some "in response or in compromise" "reactions" that might in some way help. He has nothing to lose. But it's unlikely anything truly useful in this regard will come to pass.

If there was ever a good example of a state that voted themselves into destitution, it's California.

RC


[edit on 18-5-2010 by RedCairo]


reply posted on 18-5-2010 @ 04:37 PM by RedGolem
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RedCairo
thanks for your comment. You put forth some good information and experiences. Stared
You say it is unlikely this will pass. I am undecided on that at this point. Best we can do is continue to follow it and post anything that happens with it.



reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 04:58 PM by nine-eyed-eel
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Even back then, I would go see the Dead Kennedys, and I thought we really should kill the poor, sarcasm and Communism were wasted on me...May California lead the way yet again AMEN


reply posted on 22-5-2010 @ 04:59 PM by RedGolem
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Sphota
thanks for posting the information you did.
I would like to think that the system is not quite as broken as you made it out to be. There will be problems with any society, but I would like to think there will be good things also.


reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 06:14 PM by Illusionsaregrander
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I say he should just go ahead and do it.

That way we can see whats cheaper, welfare, or housing criminals. We could get some really good social data out of that. We could see how much property crimes go up, etc. It would be a really good test to see what if any value Welfare has been adding to the nation. Because its pretty silly to think that most of the people on welfare stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting a job right now. So we know they are going to have to pursue "alternate" means of producing income.


reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 07:41 PM by RedGolem
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I got to say, that is one idea that I had not heard before.
I am sure there are some estimates available for it though.
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