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The Great Seal of the United States is Deciphered: 1776, 2012, and 2033 Related to Mayan Calendar an

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posted on May, 23 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by fizzy1
reply to post by savvys84
 


jeesh savvys [;ease stay in your stupid AG thread and dont come in here with your condescending crap. Noone in here wants to see your rude abusive behaviour like you gave in your own thread.



Hey Fizzy. The Op has done a great job. My crap? Pl elaborate.
AG thread stands well on oits own. It is world changing and it is white ops for a change.
i see you are heavy on tptb ( capitals ? )
As they did with my colleague, used him to spy on me and then eliminated him.
i like the Op , he is very knowledgeable in the subject. My use of not so frequented english words is on intention, to throw off , oh never mind...

cheers




posted on May, 25 2010 @ 07:50 PM
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Agreed. I think the Op has done a great job on this. I intend to follow this thread daily to see if anything new comes. I am very curious about all this and i think they may be onto something here. Its all a bit to coincidental to not have any meaning.

Sorry for the rashness but in your own thread your very abrasive and rude with people for no reason other than them wanting to discuss your invention that you wont discuss. yes i knnow thats another story altogether but it just seemed like you were coming off with a sarcastic and belittling tone.
Anyways... starting over and staying on topic this time lol.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:37 PM
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I think that numerology is an important component to understanding the Illuminati, which obviously places great importance apon certain numbers, such as the master numbers of 11, 22, and 33. This is one of the reasons that I believe the year 2033 is so important.

The number 11 is the number of the visionary, with double ones, it takes the attributes of creativity to a whole other level. Those born with this number often find themselves with the gift of vision, but it is a bruden as well, for those with special gifts feel compelled to use them, and often pay the price if they squaunder them. Many famous entertainers, philosophers, and artists have this number in their birthdays or as their lifepath number. This number is known as the master visionary.

The number 22 has all of the visionary qualities of the number 11 (it is 11 doubled,) plus the ability to communicate their visions and put them into motion. They can take the visionary qualities of the number 11, organize and communicate it, and then put it into practical action. Being a number 22 myself, I can tell you that 22's often see patterns to things and numbers that others do not notice. With 2 plus 2 (in numerolgy) being 4, the number 22 reduces down to 4, thus it also shares the solid and practical qualities of the number 4. This number is known as the master builder. Many famous revolutionary leaders, political leaders, heads of organizationsl, and gangsters have this number, as they have the ability to organize great enterprises and social movements. They also feel the burden of their gifts, and must use them for good or pay the price.

The number 33 has both of the other first two master numbers (11 plus 22 is 33,) thus those that have this number share the visionary qualities of the number 11, the ability to organize and put into action of the number 22, plus the ability of attainment and completion. While the 11 sees the grand plan or vision, and the 22 organizes and actualizes the vision, the 33 can complete the great task and bring it the point of attainment. This is why the 33rd degree in Freemasonry is the highest point of attainment for those seeking to complete the great task.

This is why I think that the year 2033 is seen by the Freemasons as the completion date of what they call "the great work."



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
It goes even deeper still!

My first and last names have 3 syllables each. Put those together and it is 33. How old will I be in December, 2012? You guessed it, 33. Dig a bit deeper now, and you'll see that I only manage to eat 3 full meals about 3 days out of the week, again making the number...33! There are 34 stairs from my apartment to the parking lot...but then you subtract 1 because I normally hop from the second-to-last step, which again brings us to...33!

I think this all clearly indicates that I will usher in a new Russian world order (and look stylishly wonderful as I do so), or that I am the antichrist (which, again, I will perform with the utmost fashion sense).



hahahahahahahah lmfao!!!

Second line omfg!!!hahahaha



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by HothSnake
I think that numerology is an important component to understanding the Illuminati, which obviously places great importance apon certain numbers, such as the master numbers of 11, 22, and 33. This is one of the reasons that I believe the year 2033 is so important.

The number 11 is the number of the visionary, with double ones, it takes the attributes of creativity to a whole other level. Those born with this number often find themselves with the gift of vision, but it is a bruden as well, for those with special gifts feel compelled to use them, and often pay the price if they squaunder them. Many famous entertainers, philosophers, and artists have this number in their birthdays or as their lifepath number. This number is known as the master visionary.




Something interesting there, though I dont necessarily believe in the Illuminati or numerology.
Visionary and all is apt. Interestingly enough, I was born on 11th Aug, became a born again on 11th sept when starting the 33rd year.
Though will try and excersise my visionary skills from now on.
22nd Dec has significance with my project which in a way does culminate on 21st dec 2012 as far a documentation is concerned

Cheers



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by savvys84
Something interesting there, though I dont necessarily believe in the Illuminati or numerology.
Visionary and all is apt. Interestingly enough, I was born on 11th Aug, became a born again on 11th sept when starting the 33rd year.
Though will try and excersise my visionary skills from now on.
22nd Dec has significance with my project which in a way does culminate on 21st dec 2012 as far a documentation is concerned

Cheers



See See i knew it had someting to do with 2012 and therfore must be something to do with niburu or however it is spelled. Your reptilian and you created an AG machine and will have it finished by dec 22nd 2012. Your going to use this to pull the planet down to earth arent you and then kill all the cats on earth for food when man has died out right and zombie jesus comes and raises all the dead to heaven and judges man.



[edit on 26-5-2010 by fizzy1]

[edit on 26-5-2010 by fizzy1]



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 07:23 PM
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Very funny post, but I don't know that savvy would see it that way. I don't know what you two have going on between you, but maybe you two should get a room (sarcasm, all in good fun).



To HothSnake and all the other informative posters here, bravo! Great thread and very informative, gives me a lot to think about. I have been getting glimpses of this possible reality for years along the periphery without ever digging in and getting the whole story in one chunk. Now I understand why I never chased it down: I'm well paranoid enough already, and this sends me into orbit and forces me to challenge all my assumptions, right down to my core philosophical/social/political/spiritual beliefs.

I can't thank you enough!


I know the whole "let's compare this to the Matrix movie" thing has been done to death on every topic here, but I can't help thinking about "Reloaded" whenever the subject of prophesy comes up, especially many-generations old prophesy. It's the part after Neo has fulfilled the prophesy and he is back on the Nebuchadnezzar trying to explain things to Morpheus, and Morpheus can't believe what he's hearing. Point being, it seems that a prophesy can be fulfilled, but you may not at all get what you bargained, hoped, and fought for. Sometimes, you just get screwed, because you are ignorant of the salient facts surrounding the prophesy. I think that's pretty much where we all are--useless eaters like us, as well as all of them: esoteric masters, secret society gamers, NWO shills and masterminds alike--we're all just like Morpheus, thinking we know something and hoping that when that prophesy is fulfilled our little dreams will all come true. But what do we really know? Not a f***ing thing.

The more I find about the historical correlation between the "heroes" of the books of the Old Testament and the Hiksos pharos of Egypt and how heavily worship of Amen-Ra informs and instructs the practices of Judeo-Christian worship from its inception, the more I agree with the poster who said that looking at Egyptian mythology through the lens of Christianity is like looking through the wrong end of the telescope. It is impossible to attain a correct understanding of either that way. Then we throw in Apollo, the founding fathers, Lucifer, Jesus, sacred geometry and alchemical architecture, and a couple of Popes just for good measure, shake well and spread over crushed ice, but be ready for the migraine that comes on right after the first sip!

All I know is that I know nothing, and the world is mysterious and new to me all over again...



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by zzombie
ahha the method to their madness....

The Secret societies are also quite fond of the number 33.
The 33rd President, who was supposedly a 33° Mason dropped the bombs on Hiroshima/Nagasaki both on the 33° parallel.

ON 3/22/1980 the Georgia guide stones were finished. 322 is the number of skull and bones. The Georgia guide stones, also known as the 10 commandments of the anti-Christ, state in 8 different languages "Maintain humanity under 500 million".

2013 will be 33 years from the date these stones were completed.

Also these Georgia guide stones are constructed along a ley line that goes from Stonehenge through Philadelphia PA, Washington DC and on to Georgia through the guide stones to Atlanta, which is pretty close to 33°.




[edit on 15-5-2010 by zzombie]

33 33 33 = 666

Why 33 is the favorite occult number.

Whenever an event is carried out at the 33rd Parallel north, it is an excellent human sacrifice to Satan.



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 07:58 AM
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Interesting about the number 3 and their significance here. Tesla near his death would only stay in a room that had 3 in its number. He would ramble on about things with the number 3 in it. He would only eat meals with 3 different items on his plate. Strange thing the number 3.

The saying "things happen in 3's."



posted on Jul, 12 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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On The very first picture Look to the right top corner there you can see a second sun with 7 planets you see the same picture on the murals at denver airport a horned planet ascending down to earth and to the right 7 planets. This sure looks like a reference to nibiru.



posted on Feb, 6 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Thank you so much for this thread. When you first posted it, it was a real eye opener for me.

Actually, because of this, I just purchased "Apollyon Rising" from Amazon....Can't wait to read it!



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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here's an updated version more in accordance with the emerging paradigm.

please feel free to disseminate the image however you like.
edit on 31-7-2011 by glasssatellite because: (switched from external to ATS hosted image)



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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someone astutely noted the previous image featured a public eye w/ heavy mascara, so i toned it down a bit.


edit on 31-7-2011 by glasssatellite because: .



posted on Jul, 31 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by HothSnake

Originally posted by zombiemann

Originally posted by zzombie
ahha the method to their madness....

The Secret societies are also quite fond of the number 33.
The 33rd President, who was supposedly a 33° Mason dropped the bombs on Hiroshima/Nagasaki both on the 33° parallel.

[edit on 15-5-2010 by zzombie]


A quick google seach will show this to be false.

Nagasaki 32°47'N 129°50'E
Hiroshima 34°24'N 132°30'E

You're off a degree each way. Thank you for playing


It may not be exact, but it is a litle too close for my own comfort. The mere fact that they may have tried to hit it, which you have to admit would be quite difficult, is scary enough for me.

Still, the significance of the number 33 is quite telling.


But you can not ignore the facts. The facts are that both of these places are not on the 33rd.

The rest is your opinion. it does not mean your theory is flawed it just means you can not use this example as part of your theory.


edit on 31-7-2011 by guessing because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Darn. Maybe this is the thread I should be bumping although I am still interested in people who have read the book Apollyon Rising 2012.

I actually do think there is something to this.
I just posted this on another thread:

In the Nahuatl language, Friday is Quetzalcōātōnal (Nahuatl pronunciation: [ket͡saɬkoːaːˈtoːnaɬ]) meaning "day of Quetzalcoatl".
This was added just today. I looked it up on the latest revision though I can't figure out why someone thought the meaning of the word Friday needed to have the Nahuatl language translation added at this time!!

In looking at every angle about the day December 21, I noted it fell on a Friday.
After looking into the symbolism depicted in Washington DC that is discussed by the book, apparently,
of the god that appears to complete the top of the pyramid.
A step pyramid on the Seal with 13 steps. That this was known that from 1776 to 2012 that there would be 13 katuns.
The pyramid on the dollar bill is not Egyptian in it's appearance but, Mayan.
en.wikipedia.org...

Cortez and Montezuma at Mexican Temple

This panel shows the Spanish conquistador Hernán Cortés entering an Aztec temple, being welcomed by Moctezuma II. At the beginning of the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire, Moctezuma and the Aztecs honored Cortés as a god, believing that he was the returning god Quetzalcoatl. The Aztec sun stone and cult images are based on sketches drawn by Brumidi in Mexico City.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Red Cloak
The code of 360 years x 7 as laid out in the Bible for the end times gives us 2,520 years. The first Jewish temple was destroyed in 586 BC. This gives us the date of 1934 AD (586 BC plus 2,520 years). Now subtract a year because the calendar starts with the year 1 AD instead of the year 0 AD.

There you have the year 1933 AD. Now add 100 years to that date (the time of a generation in the Bible as Christ said it would be a generation of time after the key events signaling the end times had occurred - destruction of the first temple x the code) and you get 2033 AD as the date of Armageddon according to the Greek bible, using this particular code.

This is precisely where the New World Order gets this date. They get this date because this is the date given for Armageddon if we take the Greek bible and then apply the 360 x 7 years code to the bible prophecies, using this specific code.

This code of 360 x 7 years comes from Sir Isaac Newton who claimed that he discovered a hidden code within the Bible. From Revelation, as follows:

Revelation 12:6 - one-thousand two-hundred and sixty days as a time, times, and a half a time, or three-and-a half times. Each time is 360 days per year

1,260 divided by 3.5 = 360

360 years in each time multiplied by Daniel 9:24-27 (seven times code, a year for a day code, and 70 weeks of time code) seven times

360 years X 7 = 2,520 years

So the first Jewish temple is destroyed in 586 BC, plus 2,520 years = the year 1934 AD, minus 1 year because the calendar starts in the year 1 AD instead of the year 0 AD = 1933 AD

add 100 years of time --> from Mathew 24:34's a generation's time, which is in the bible 100 years =

2033 AD

Please keep in mind that Sir Isaac Newton himself said it would be the year 2060 AD. Using the code of 1,260 days = 1,260 years plus the year 800 AD (when Charlemagne was anointed Emperor of Rome by the Pope).

So Newton claimed 2060 AD as the date. But what I am saying is that you can also derive the date of 2033 AD using the code I just described above. This is obviously where the New World Order is getting this date.




[edit on 16-5-2010 by Red Cloak]


The only quibble I would make is that a generation in the Bible is 70 years. So 1933 + 70 = 2013.
I think the goal is that whatever is kicked off on 12/21/2012 is to be carried out in earnest in the next year.

From secular POV I have read from Trends Research and also guest blogs on ZeroHedge that the expectation of a complete "armegeddon" in the financial world will take place in the first quarter of 2013.

It has always been in the hands of the power elite who control money, that indeed control the world, can do this
at a time of their choosing.
It may very well be that the 12/21/2012 is a signal that the time to do so is at hand.
It may be that whatever they wish to usher into the world with the culmination of the ceremony they perform on that date is a force even they are fearful of, or untrusting of, and they hide in their bunkers from IT.
And because they are not out there pulling strings and propping it up anymore, that it collapses under it's own
tottering house of cards.

We should be prepared for anything to happen.
Even with Y2K it is not as if nothing happened. Businesses were held hostage around the world to expend billions of dollars to rectify it beforehand. We don't know what might have happened had they not.
They were told to do this and they did. I worked for a small bank at the time that spent over $100,000 and hired
computer specialists to rewrite a whole lot of code.

Since I think money and greed is at the heart of the world system that is, then that is where I would think the first signs that something has happened or will happen will come.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by cosmicpixie

Originally posted by HothSnake
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I do credit all sources. I credit Apollyon Rising in the thread that I linked to above.

Most of the info in this thread was taken from a blog by Thomas Horn, the author of Apollyon Rising, which is an amazing book, by the way, and from Manly P. Hall.

However, the connection to 2033 was one made by myself, and only made possible by some of the wealth of knowledge from other ATSers, like Proto.

All sources are cited though.


Both Tom Horn and David Flynn make a strong connection to the year 2016 though. Google 2009-2016 Illuminati timeline and there's a fair bit discussing this. Here's one article :

Craft Masonry's calendar commences with the creation of the world and uses the term Anno Lucius (A.L.) - "In the year of Light." To arrive at this date they add 4000 to the common time, as the Earth was believed in conventional theology to have began in 4000 BC . This is also the date believed to mark the birth of Horus by Isis in Egypt. For an example of this era use in Free Masonic books, see this link: digital.lib.ecu.edu...

According to the Illuminati, the great pyramid was built to commemorate and observe a supernova explosion that occurred in the year 4000 B.C.Dr. Anthony Hewish, 1974 Nobel Prize winner in physics, discovered a rhythmic series of radio pulses which he proved were emissions from a star that had exploded around 4000 B.C.
George Michanowsky wrote in The Once and Future Star that "The ancient Sumerian cuneiform...described a giant star exploding within a triangle formed by...Zeta Puppis, Gamma Velorum, and Lambda Velorum...located in the southern sky....[An] accurate star catalogue now stated that the blazing star that had exploded within the triangle would again be seen by man in 6000 years."
watcher.boardzero.com...

Height of the Great Pyramid (calculated with its capstone, now missing) 5,776 inches.

U.S. Declaration of Independence, 5776 A.L (Anno Lumina--year of light)

The Jewish calendar year 5776 is 2016 in the Gregorian calendar.

The Scottish Rite date the same as Craft Masons, except for the use of the Jewish Chronology. Anno Mundi (A.M.), which means "In the year of the World" is their calendar terminology and adds 3760 to the common time. 2016 + 3760 = 5776

This means that the Illumined have understood that the year 1776 in the Craft Mason calendar A.L. 5776, is a code for both the Scottish Rite and Jewish calendar year of the future, 5776, or 2016 in the Gregorian calendar.

From 2016 AD to the Dedication of the first Temple of Jerusalem in 961-962 BC is 3,022 biblcal "360 day" years. The Great pyramid is 3,022 feet at its perimeter and 5776 inches or 481 feet tall, half 962. This is the ratio of PI.

The Statue of Liberty in NewYork holds tablets with the singular date, "July IV 1776" or in the "year of light" 5776 A.L.

It stands exactly 5706 miles from the site of the Temple of Jerusalem. 5706 in the Jewish calendar and the Craft Masonic calendar is the year 1948, the year of Israel's "resurrection" Ezekiel 37.


Does it make a little sense then, that the 1,260 day count down to 12 / 21 / 2012 begins in the week of July 4th 2009, seven years before 2016?...

That the Roswell incident occurred on the evening before the 4th of July on the latitude of 33 degrees? That this latitude multipied by the value of a circle, "PI, 3.1415..." equals the site's longitude? Or that PI unlocks the time-lines of both the Great Pyramid and the Temple of Jerusalem so that they both indicate a terminus year of 2016? ...That 2012 is the number of minutes in 33 degrees, 33 minutes? Or that the square root of 33.33 is 5.773... (the fractal of the Jewish year 5773, 2012 AD)?

At the moment of this writing, there are 3,022 hours remaining (the same number as the great pyramid base perimeter in feet) until the 1,260 day countdown to December 21st 2012 begins in July 7/11/2009.


2009-2016 timeline encoded within the great seal and other things

There's other supporting info on the net if you look around, I haven't got time to go through my archives but have researched quite a bit into it .

another short article

short video by David Flynn re 209-2016

[edit on 16/5/10 by cosmicpixie]


I found this absolutely fascinating.
This is like time traveling to the past.

Post continues below...
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posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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This reminded me of something on the tip of my brain concerning the Drago Caput and it's significance in
Washington, DC astrology/symbology. It may have been in Ovason's book. I appreciate you tying in the new
sign of Ophiuchus to this period.

I recall now that this is the Chinese Year of the Dragon. 2013 is the Chinese Year of the Snake.
When I looked it up, I find that to the Chinese the Dragon is when he is in the sky, he becomes the Snake
when he hits the ground!

I feel as if you have hit upon something significant here to unraveling the timing and what it means to those
who have been planning for this for some time.

The tie in with a winged serpent Quetzocoatl is no accident but shows that this Dragon/Serpent/Snake
cast down and the Chinese Zodiac with Egyptian astrology of Ophiuchus demonstrates this is knowledge
known around the world since, the time of Nimrod and may be the source from whence it was scattered.



posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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Interesting post, I had never thought about the outcome(s) of Y2K in that manner, but so true....




posted on Dec, 9 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by SirAmericanKilt
When the Spanish conquistadors came to the maya's land they were treated like gods and everyone knows this. But after contact many priests and missionarys came over to convert to christianity. The priests went through thier texts and seen them as satanic and barbaric so we are told today that they destroyed thier culture, what If they didn't burn it all? What if they sent it back to the vatican for study, safe keeping, or even personal power and gain? If they did keep some of the more important texts and hid them from the public, which would not be hard at that time, it could have been passed through the secret organizations we have today. They could know many secrets of our origins, history, or who knows what
considering how advanced they were. So with this in mind, would it be safe to say that the texts kept could have meant a great deal to the masons? Maybe that's why they tie together and our goverment has the stone carvings of the maya and such at the capitol. Just a thought


It's no different than the Library at Alexandria. It is one thing to say you burned it, it is another if you neglected to mention that you removed all the good stuff before you lit the torch.

I have thought for several years now that Caesar may have ordered this after Cleo gave him the grand tour.
Accident my arse!
It was to disguise the theft.
But, I also think it led to his death. The knowledge possessed in the scrolls along with maps were much coveted.

It would later become the foundation of the Vatican less than 20 years later.
They knew where they were going when they went to "the New World".

This is all about hidden history.



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