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The Great Seal of the United States is Deciphered: 1776, 2012, and 2033 Related to Mayan Calendar an

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posted on May, 19 2010 @ 08:44 AM
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Im not saying it is a good thing...and I agree...knowledge leads to egotistical power...and power is a dangerous thing that many humans cant handle.

I just am cautious to get caught up into dates....I say, always be prepared, and always remember, you are at the mercy of the world around you. We live in a existence that could end anytime. Our existence is a fragile thing.

Many beliefs revolve around the idea that a death brings power to a being...so with this, Im not surprised people still practice it today. Look at how the Mayans for example practiced this belief. Who knows, there might be a very dark power that is very real here. But the calendar many people are using to talk about 2012....was made by a people that killed their own kind to bring rain ect...could there be something about nature here we lost understanding to? I dont support blood sacrifice, but I also dont know if it works or not.

The majority of human nature is still very primal, and we see this evident with those in power.

There also could be a group that is keeping certain things they consider as precious to our species...in ways that wont get lost or distorted.

Just saying....COULD BE>


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posted on May, 19 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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There also could be a group that is keeping certain things they consider as precious to our species...in ways that wont get lost or distorted.


I really can't see any reason for keeping such information secret, other than for taking advantage of others that aren't privvy to the same information that you are.

It would be a lot like you going back in time 500 years, and then using your superior 21st century Knowledge to take over and rule the world. You set up special schools (mystery) in order to find individuals that will help you in your endeavors, while swearing them to secrecy, and like a Sith Lord, you never reveal all of your secrets so that you always have the upperhand. To these ignorant people, you appear to be very much like a God.

This is one possibility by the way.... What if someone is traveling back in time in order to influence the past. What if all of these ancient gods that all seem to corelate across the continents were actually time travelers from our time or the future? It's a possibility, and in order to protect their secrets they set up mystery schools and the secret societies?



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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People People,
if the seal has to do with the NWO, it satnds to reason, that they have to push their agendas thru generations consistently, till the culmination. Now can your human intelligence accomplish this? I think not. Have you considered that there is non human intelligence at play here, from the undead, aliens etc.
How are ya'll so cocksure, that your elected reps are the same and not the undead, aliens etc put in place soon after your elected reps of govt and intelligence agencies, assume their respective positions.

Cheers



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 12:27 PM
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posted on May, 19 2010 @ 08:53 PM
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Yes, actually that is a good consideration within this post.. just visit the link at the end of the OP, which is an older post of mine that does discuss such things.



posted on May, 19 2010 @ 11:28 PM
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I think it's kind of funny Obama is the 44th President of the United States. These double digits here are a killing me.

And all of that is very weird.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by HothSnake
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I don't know, you tell us... Do you get a funny inclination to rule the world at times??

Numerology is a funny thing, and a very worthwhile study. Even before the movie "23," I used to see 4/22 everywhere, which happens to be my birthday. Everytime I looked at a clock, it was 4:22 am or pm.. I also see the number 22 a lot.


According to Cheiro he states that your birthday is the most strongest number when it comes to numerology. My Birthday is 18 which turns to 9. My lucky number has always been nine. It has followed me quite some time like when I got my first ticket it was on 09/09/99 at 9pm and when I got my associates degree the address of the ceremony was 9999. I didn't go to my bachelor's ceremony because didn'thave the cash for the outfit and didn't like most of my classmates.

But numerology can be powerful and 322 I also adds up to 7 which is supposed to be a sacred number.

I also wonder if 322 is actually a date they know when a great catastrophe will start? The death skull usually means death then they have 322 after the skull. I hate secret societies....they always make you go hmmmm....

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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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May i ask who Cheiro is? Edit.. scratch that, he was a famous irish Astrologer.


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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by HothSnake
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May i ask who Cheiro is? Edit.. scratch that, he was a famous irish Astrologer.


[edit on 20-5-2010 by HothSnake]


Cheiro - the father of palmistry IMHO

He had a gift in palm reading, but I am still skeptical on his numerology stuff.



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 05:46 PM
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I want to add something about the number 72, If I could?

According to Manly P. Hall, acclaimed as Masonry"s "greatest philosopher," the 72 stones in the pyramid on The Great Seal correspond to the 72 arrangements of the Tetragrammaton, or the four-lettered name of God in Hebrew. The idea that the mystical name of God could be invoked to bind or loose agents (powers and energies of nature, as Hall called them) is a meaningful creed within many occult tenets, including the Kabbalah and Freemasonry.

In magic, the pentagram is often employed as a tool for binding or loosing these powers or entities, which is why there are 72 pentagrams binding the deified George Washington and his 72 angel/demon companions in "The Apotheosis of Washington" painted scene within the Capitol Dome. This is meant as an allegory for the ascension or descension (however you want to look at it) of Osiris into the underworld or pagan heaven, where he waits to be reborn or transmogrified (inhabit) the personage of Pharaoh.

The Key of Solomon and the Lesser Key of Solomon (sacred Rosicrucian and Masonic texts,) both identify the star systems Orion (associated with Osiris in Egypt) and the Pleiades (associated with Apollo) as the "home" of these powers, and applies great importance to the pentagram shape of the stars for binding and loosing their influence. That is why there is a pentagram sown into the street design of Washington D.C. with an unfinished point. In magical texts, an open pentagram allows an entity to be loosed and then binds that entity at the same time to the place where it has been let loose.

Enoch was given 72 wings when he went to heaven.

Solomon, according to legend, devised a means of binding 72 demons under his control and used them to finish his temple. Of course, the Masons derive much of their allegory from the story of Solomon and his Temple.

Also, you should note, if you've visited my other thread that is linked to in the OP, that magical Domes and Obelisks to facilitate the coming of Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod (whatever this represents to Freemasons) are in place at the Vatican and Washington D.C., where his coming is represented in the layout of the structures in line with the stars of Orion (Osiris) and Pleiades (Apollo) above, the Cumaean Sybil (prophetess of Apollo) in the Sistine Chapel, and upon the Great Seal of the United States, where Sybil's prophecy (Novus Ordo Seclorum) seem to foretell his coming (whoever or whatever he is.)

[edit on 20-5-2010 by HothSnake]



posted on May, 20 2010 @ 06:34 PM
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Also, shall we discuss some more of the grimories of the number 13 encoded within The Great Seal of the United States?

Not only does the phrase "Annuit Coeptis" contain 13 letters, but when you add the 17 letters of Novus Ordo Seclorum (Thompson deliberately mispelled "saeclorum" in order to make the count right) to the Roman numberals that make up the base of the Pyramid 1776, you get 26 characters and letters. 26 is 13 doubled, thus there is a trinity of 13 illuded to within the Great Seal.

The number 13 is associated with the Knights Templar, the moon godess Isis and also the god Apollo, hence the last moon mission "Apollo 13." The number 3 is also associated with Apollo, as the triad and tripod were both symbols of Apollo, which could be the importance of the master number of 33 in Freemasonry.

Also, the number 3 is very important to Freemasonry as it denotes the triangle, and is also the key to finding coorginates on a map (triangulation.)

If you take the 13 steps to the pyramid in The Great Seal into account, you have 4 occurances of the number 13.

1/3 is 33.33%, thus four 3's. The fraction 1/3rd is also important to Rosicrucian/Freemasons in that 33.33 degrees of the great circle of the earth represents 2012 nautical miles, the identical number at the end of the Mayan calendar. Also, Mount Hermon in Pheonicia, the first location of the descent of the Watchers (see David Flynn, lies precisely at 33.33 degrees north, 33.33 degrees east, 2012 miles from the equator, and 2012 miles from the prime meridian, a location of Mt. Hermon in longitude based on the Paris 0 meridian 2.20 degrees east of Greenwich. This is also why I think the date 2033 is important and also encoded within the Seal.

The three 13's in the codex of the letters and numerals of The Great Seal could represent the Egyptian trinity of Osiris, Horus (Apollo), and Isis. God the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. Is this the meaing of the Great Seal, that these gods (aliens, demonic spirits, whatever) could return like the Watchers of old mentioned in Genesis, or that the alignment around 2012 of the star systems associated with these gods (Orion, Sirius, Pleides) will have some major implication for us earthlings (or all of the above?)

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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 09:46 PM
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you know if you think about it...

its really unsurprising that the U.S/mason stuff relates to mayan stuff, egyptian stuff, early christian/templar stuff, asian stuff, etc blah

if you think about what the 'sun gods/aliens' gave the early cultures/civilizations of man...

accoustic levitation to the chinese...
and likewise accoustic technologies to the egyptians, coffers that produce standing waves, chambers with man made composites of stone producing particular resonant frequencies that relate to the advanced mathematical/astrological knowledge (also a gift from the gods)...

the egyptian chamber covered in mono atomic gold..theorized to have been a workshop producing the stuff..the worlds earliest factory one might say...

the nuclear warfare spoken of in the biblical texts & ancient Indian texts..

the 2nd book of Moses - ark/condenser charger with several thousand volts..

brainwave entrainment/hemisync technology to the peruvians...

modern electrical circuitry depictions found on jewelry in a tomb of a mexican high priest....

numerous other religious & quasi historical mentions of ufo's, alien races, impossible technologies..

dogu figurines for e.g,

or from the museum of bhagdad
the claypot/battery cell invented 15000 yrs (from the age of 'christ') prior to the modern battery cell...

or from the british museum a polished lens over 2000 yrs old that could only have been produced with modern cutting & polishing tools - yet polished lens were not executed in europe before the 16th century...

or in moscow the skull of a bison dated at being alive 40000yrs ago & shot with a bullet between the eyes...

the mystery schools have been in existence from as early as egyptian times, and 'groups' of people in all the civilizations that would attempt (in one way or another) to emulate the gods. (skull deformation for e.g)

isn't it kind of obvious that the mystery schools are all about this knowledge & alien technology & always has been?

they are about preserving it & realizing the full potential of it? and perhaps coveting it for themselves to a certain extent? controlling what is known & shared?

I'm not saying they don't have other agendas e.g. NWO......or that they aren't obsolete & unwanted...that the coveted should be shared....

but its interesting that a light skinned red headed (european) race expertly executedy some masonry for the incans in ancient times and that the free masons/templars early constructions sometimes mimic the way the stones have been laid or cut (around the world in even earlier times)..

makes me wonder if the mystery schools of today are just continuations of mystery schools of the past who were just emulating the long gone alien/gods and the first mystery schools were actually interacting with these god/alien guys & learning a bunch of stuff... maybe the activities of the first schools were kept from the public due to a prometheus/zeus, enki/enlil, god/serpent type situation...

just thinking out loud...

-B.M

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posted on May, 20 2010 @ 10:57 PM
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These are all valid points and possibilities, and i happen to think that you're probably right. In fact, I've had this suspiscion for a while, but one thing bothers me, and that is some of the black magic employed by these adepts of the mystery schools, and what it means.

Are they dealing with demons from another dimension, beings that do not seem to be good. I've yet to read any accounts of these demons/aliens (whatever) that would lead me to believe that they mean us well.

What these Masonic Rosicrucians seem to be trying to bring about doesn't seem all that happy or helpful to most of us.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 04:46 AM
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Hi all. Great thread guys, This is my first post. I watched this yesterday and think it ties in nicely to this thread. I recommend watching all the parts as it gets better and better the further you go into it.

The guy who made it is dead now (age only 30 i believe)

www.youtube.com...#!v=xR5NNo1AB9g&playnext_from=TL&videos=SXqZ0TZAhVs


Keep learning and fighting.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 06:00 AM
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This is some pretty cool stuff and definetly what i come to ATS for. Its very interesting and the connections you guys make are fascinating to me but i have one major question to ask. What good does it do to know any of this? To me its kinda like having a dream about a plane crash and waking up and seeing it on the news 5 minutes after you awake. Yeah it was weird and you knew it before it happened but could do nothing to prevent it. So knowing what all you know what do you do about it? If all this information is leading somewhere and is a plot by TPTB to start a new world order and everyone is so convinced about it then isnt it the duty of those who KNOW to do whatever they can to stop it? Or do you consine yourself to the inevitability of destiny and fate and let it happen because it is meant to be? This is really what confuses me about why people put so much time and energy into prophecy and end times scenarios and eschatology etc etc and so on. If its all predicted to happen and there is nothing you can do other than just be prepared then why bother?

Please dont think i am flamin or anything crazy on the OP cause i love this stuff as well. Its very fascinating, its just i wonder at the passion of the people who flesh out this stuff. In the end what does it all mean for us?



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 10:11 AM
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I stopped reading pretty fast, same old theories looking for meaning in nothing, To me this is the first of many many posts looking for the date that the 2012 believers can switch to so they avoid embarrassment.
It was all "2012 is the end of the world, death of all life, etc" as the date gets closer and Nibiru still isn't in the night skies and it slowly dawns on even the hard headed 2012 doomsday worshippers they will create more and more plot twits, Hey 2033, why not, thats one hell of a lot of conspiracy theories, mystical planets and other nonsense that we sceptics have to sit through because the only way to prove our side is by waiting for the date to pass.
2033, coming soon to theatres near you.



posted on May, 21 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by fizzy1
This is some pretty cool stuff and definetly what i come to ATS for. Its very interesting and the connections you guys make are fascinating to me but i have one major question to ask. What good does it do to know any of this? To me its kinda like having a dream about a plane crash and waking up and seeing it on the news 5 minutes after you awake. Yeah it was weird and you knew it before it happened but could do nothing to prevent it. So knowing what all you know what do you do about it? If all this information is leading somewhere and is a plot by TPTB to start a new world order and everyone is so convinced about it then isnt it the duty of those who KNOW to do whatever they can to stop it? Or do you consine yourself to the inevitability of destiny and fate and let it happen because it is meant to be? This is really what confuses me about why people put so much time and energy into prophecy and end times scenarios and eschatology etc etc and so on. If its all predicted to happen and there is nothing you can do other than just be prepared then why bother?

Please dont think i am flamin or anything crazy on the OP cause i love this stuff as well. Its very fascinating, its just i wonder at the passion of the people who flesh out this stuff. In the end what does it all mean for us?


Thanks for posting your questions and concerns.

Well, I believe as Sir Francis Bacon apparently believed... "knowledge is power." The more you know, the more you can do to prepare for whatever is coming, given the assumption that we have a fighting chance.

First of all, let me reiterate that I do not personally believe that the world is coming to an end in 2012, 2016, or 2033, but I do think that these dates mark a possible shift in global consciousness that will be transforming, perhaps the end of the world as we know it, but not the end of the world period.

The purpose of this thread was to show a broad spectrum of individuals here on ATS what The Powers That Be seem to believe, worship, and be preparing for. After reading this, and watching Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theories" episode on 2012, one can only be led to the realization that "they" are preparing for something, and that something is BIG! And that they have been preparing for that something for possibly thousands of years, probably since the Great Flood talked about in Genesis and the story of Gilgamesh.

What I present here isn't necissarily what I believe, but what the TPTB appear to believe, and that's kind of scary considering that they run things.

I believe as Patrick Henry believed:


"WE ARE APT TO SHUT OUR EYES AGAINST A PAINFUL TRUTH...
FOR MY PART, I AM WILLING TO KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH;
TO KNOW THE WORST; AND TO PROVIDE FOR IT."
---- Patrick Henry


Is it useful to know the future? Why do you watch the weather report on your favorite local news station?

Do I thnk that these things can be stopped? Infact I do, and like everything else it starts with the the 5 inch space between your ears. The most important aspect of any war is information, and rest assured that in this age of computers and the internet that this war will be an information war that can be won by people awakening to the truth, and as we have seen over the course of just a decade (just look at this website,) more people than ever are unchaining themselves from their cave wall and venturing out into the sunlight of the truth. We are witnessing a great awakening (the age of aquarius) and believe me, they are scared and their latest moves are out of desperation. Have you noticed that things are starting move much more quickly in recent years?

Do you really think that they would be going to all of this trouble, making sure that everything was in its perfect place, going through all of this ceremony and charade, using every tool at their disposal (which is considerable given they rule the world) if they weren't scared of failing? Why go to all of this trouble to keep this stuff secret, if they weren't afraid of you finding it out?

The fact is that I agree with the Hopi indians in that they see more than one potentiality for what they have prophesied to be the end of the world as we know it. In one, there is cataclysm and destruction, and in the other a new age of consciousness and peace. I believe that we stand at a precipace, and where we go from here is still very much up to us as individuals, but it all starts with you and me. Take back your minds and act on what you know and they cannot stop us... That's the dirty little secret that they don't want getting out.

Everything starts with a thought... every word, every action, every tool, every plan, every design, every building, etc., etc., started with a thought. Take back your minds and you can do anything. They think they can control the world, but they can never control your mind, unless you allow them to.

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posted on May, 21 2010 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by keepithush
I stopped reading pretty fast, same old theories looking for meaning in nothing, To me this is the first of many many posts looking for the date that the 2012 believers can switch to so they avoid embarrassment.
It was all "2012 is the end of the world, death of all life, etc" as the date gets closer and Nibiru still isn't in the night skies and it slowly dawns on even the hard headed 2012 doomsday worshippers they will create more and more plot twits, Hey 2033, why not, thats one hell of a lot of conspiracy theories, mystical planets and other nonsense that we sceptics have to sit through because the only way to prove our side is by waiting for the date to pass.
2033, coming soon to theatres near you.


Well, be a skeptic all you want, but somehow all of these various, unrelated sources arrived at pretty much the same point in time being very significant, and at least some of those that sit on top of the rest of us believe in something very scary. Aren't you the least bit curious as to how that happened? Or are you the sort of person that always keeps his head stuck in the sand... "ignorance is bliss.. blah blah blah.."?

This isn't some small ancillary group of fringe wackos that we are talking about here, but the very people that rule and control our present and hope to rule our future lives.

And its not based on just a Mayan prophecy, but on thousands of years of corelating data, including more recent data, such as web bot, Timewave, etc... in conjuction with major astrological alignments.

The fact that you stopped reading is blindingly apparent.

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posted on May, 21 2010 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
It goes even deeper still!

My first and last names have 3 syllables each. Put those together and it is 33. How old will I be in December, 2012? You guessed it, 33. Dig a bit deeper now, and you'll see that I only manage to eat 3 full meals about 3 days out of the week, again making the number...33! There are 34 stairs from my apartment to the parking lot...but then you subtract 1 because I normally hop from the second-to-last step, which again brings us to...33!

I think this all clearly indicates that I will usher in a new Russian world order (and look stylishly wonderful as I do so), or that I am the antichrist (which, again, I will perform with the utmost fashion sense).


How is that significant in the world compared to these great cultures though ?

That is the difference. I mean I see what you are doing..it's kind of funny, but then because you think like that, you already think you KNOW something....therefore you can't actually KNOW anything......( and no i don't mean you can't know anything )



posted on May, 22 2010 @ 11:50 PM
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jeesh savvys [;ease stay in your stupid AG thread and dont come in here with your condescending crap. Noone in here wants to see your rude abusive behaviour like you gave in your own thread.



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