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Originally posted by nydsdan
Originally posted by HothSnake
Below the pyramid, depicting 72 stones in 13 rows, is the date of 1776 in Roman numerals at the base of the pyramid. This date just so happens to have great significance in the Mayan calendar, along with the year 2012, as 1776 is the start date of the final cycle of 13 Katun, leading to the final Katun 2012, hence the importance of the number 13, which had special significance, not only to the founders, but also to the Maya. Clearly, the numbers and dates for the founding of the “New Atlantis” were chosen carefully, and not by accident.
[edit on 15-5-2010 by HothSnake]
Your post is a very interesting read however I cannot find any evidence that supports 1776 being the start of 13 Katun. The start of 13 Katun is September 18, 1618. Please correct me if I am wrong, but July 4, 1776 was 18.104.22.168.13 in Mayan long count. This is based on Gregorian, but it is not much different in Julian.
So if you throw out the 1776 connection, what are we left with???
The dates that accompany the illustrations approximate real counts. Katun 13 Ahau ended in 1539 and began in the Colonial Count in 1776.… The traditional theme of agreement as the end of the eastern katun cycle in 13 Ahau is intermingled here with elements of the Christian Last Judgment. Whether this paradigm was also intended for the end of the Long Count in 2012 is open to question.
This Seal shows a thirteen-step pyramid with 1776 in Roman numerals.… [The year] 1776 was not only the year that the Declaration of Independence was signed, but was also a special year in the Mayan calendar. Just as the last katun in the Great Cycle is "katun 2012," the first katun in the cycle of thirteen was "katun 1776." In fact, the katun ended thirty-three days before the signing. So 1776 is the bottom level of the pyramid, where the date is actually inscribed—the top of the pyramid is therefore 2012. 
Originally posted by zombiemann
A quick google seach will show this to be false.
Nagasaki 32°47'N 129°50'E
Hiroshima 34°24'N 132°30'E
You're off a degree each way. Thank you for playing
Originally posted by DocEmrick
There seems to be some discrepancy on the Zodiac Sign we are going in to.
I remember seeing in Zeitgeist, that we do not change from Pieces to Aries in the year 2150. Can any corroborate this?
Originally posted by HothSnake
reply to post by C_Tanner
I do credit all sources. I credit Apollyon Rising in the thread that I linked to above.
Most of the info in this thread was taken from a blog by Thomas Horn, the author of Apollyon Rising, which is an amazing book, by the way, and from Manly P. Hall.
However, the connection to 2033 was one made by myself, and only made possible by some of the wealth of knowledge from other ATSers, like Proto.
All sources are cited though.
One Baktun consists of 20 Katuns of 7200 days = 144,000 days or 260 Katuns in one Baktun. One Katun equals 7200 days or 19.712525667351 years.
3114 BC plus 248 Katuns forward, brings us indeed the 1776 Katun. After this 248th katun there are only 12 to follow to complete the Great Cycle of 260 Katuns or 13 Baktuns. So from 1776 one only need to add 12 Katuns NOT 13 to finish 5125+ year period.
Religious ceremonies and prophecies accompanied Mayan katuns, and Luxton’s connection to the "Christian Last Judgment" and the thirteen katuns (a katun is approximately 19.7 years) between 1776 and 2012 is drawn from the prophecies of the Mayan prophet Chilam Balam. Written down in about the year 1595, the oracular Chilam Balam, or "jaguar" shaman, said the end of this period would witness the judgment of God in the form of social collapse, epidemics, plagues, and famine. The same period would see the coming of two great prophets, one after the other, according to the Mayan prophecy. Is this the False Prophet paving the way for the Antichrist? source
Originally posted by Anthony1138
2033? let me guess the world is going to end from a nuclear holocost and the survivors have to fight off mutant monsters? ....in moscow?
people keep saying the world is going to end, like 2000 yea alot of people believed in it, then 2009, 2012 (nothing will happen) and just to REACH out for some sort of hope of gobal deathly disaster you cling to 2033
yet its almost as if...IT WAS FROM A VIDEO GAME?!?!?!?! like metro 2033 for example? hey maybe i should write a book , make it seem like 400 years in the future and fill it full of absoult bull# and see how many simple minded morons believe it to be fact
OMG OMG IT SAID SO IN SOME BOOK...that some guy wrote it MUST be true lol
to be honest i am only laughing at you now
Originally posted by HooHaa
The myan clanedar wasnt found until 1770 and deciphered much later. How can the seal be tied in with that? I'm sorry but our founding fathers didnt have no where near the resources we do (internet) to communicate. I feel you are reaching trying to connect dots that dont form any picture reconizable(sp).
To further verify this part of the cipher pointing to an "alternative capstone" or second messiah, the year 1776 at the base of the pyramid is understood by Masons worldwide to be the year 5776 Anno Lucis ("in the year of light"). This is because Masons of the ancient Craft add four thousand years to the common date, the number of years that conventional theology assumes creation began before Christ: thus, 4,000+1,776=5,776.
Why is this important? Because 5,776 is exactly how many inches high the Great Pyramid in Giza would be when completed with its capstone, a sacred fact to occultists. Completing the pyramid symbolically in this way is central to the rituals and mysticism of Freemasons and numerous Illuminated fraternities. This has been true throughout the ages, and is why this symbolism was encoded on the Great Seal and remains at the core of esoteric ambition today. The year 1776 thus represents 1) the trestleboard date on which the great work and secret destiny began; and 2) is a prophetic marker toward the descent of the eye of Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod upon the uncapped pyramid in accomplishment of the Great Work.
Yet if the year 1776 represents the starting date on the trestleboard toward the accomplishment "of which the United States Government was dedicated from the day of its inception," as Manly P. Hall said, what date did the Master Masons envision that the work would be finished in order that Hiram Abiff (Osiris/Apollo/Nimrod) could return to inhabit his temple? This is found in the modern Jewish calendar as well as the Scottish Rite Freemasonry, who, unlike their other brethren, prefer adding 3,760 years to the common date. In order for this superior side of Masonry to arrive at the appropriate number for their finished pyramid and the completed work (the height of the pyramid with its capstone reaching upward of 5,776 inches), they have to add the future date, 2016, to the common era, or 3,760+2,016=5,776.
This is important for several reasons, not the least of which is that, if the culmination of the Illuminati enterprise is concluded in 2016, it is prophetically related to the infamous future year 2012—the end of the Mayan Long Count calendar. The year 2012 could therefore represent in Christian eschatology the beginning of Great Tribulation, with 2016 representing the "midst of the week" when Apollo (Antichrist) presents himself as God and enters the temple in Jerusalem. source