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Originally posted by tauempire
Oh and for you guys info....the commandment for 'thou shalt not kill' is kind mis translated.
what it really meant was 'thou shalt not murder'.
Killing in self-defense or in war is not murder.
Jesus himself talked about defending yourself. Back in the day the apostles were persecuted and had to pick up the sword.
'live by the sword die by the sword'.
Alot of the ten commandments have been sorta 'hijakked' i guess you could say. the Original meanings have been misconstrued to the point that many of the commandments have been changed to mean something then what it was intended for.
I see the catholics defending their branch of the Christianity tree. We don't worship idols, or any such... yet their golden topped churches are repositories of "religious art". Been to the Sistine Chapel, I have, we can talk about "religious art".
No one even touched on their practice of ritualistic cannibalism and vampirism in worshiping an itinerant carpenter. They use a word call transubstantiation instead to make it nicer, but it is the same thing.
Originally posted by CookieMonster09
It's completely loopy to suggest that any Catholic in their right mind thinks that a piece of art work is an actual god deserving of being worshiped.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them
We KNOW and UNDERSTAND that you do not think a piece of wood or art is god but YOU ARE WORSHIPING IT. Yes, YOU ARE. You BOW to it, knee to it, pray to it. When you bow to a figure of a living thing you are DIRECTLY violating the ten commandments. I hope I am clear now.
I think that the Catholic church (just my view... not trying to hate) has single handily done more damage to faith in God and the lessons he taught us through Jesus than just about anything else (except maybe South Park... jury is out on this one).
But seriously - they've created a megalithic legalistic infrastructure where only select men have the ability to proclaim God's divine plan. The Pope is none other than a man-made king that is supposed to have some kind of direct connection to God...
What do you need the Pope for?
Pope's not a king? Why's he sit on a throne? Why does he have a royal guard?
If you dont think the Catholic church is practicing legalism (yep, like Old Law) then why can't I just repent, be baptized, and then I'm saved? What's up with the classes before I can share communion? What happened to the Gospel's account of 3000 being converted in a day by the river? Can't do that in today's church because you have to meet the requirements.
How about confession... we're to confess and repent - TO GOD! not a man. And on what authority did we confuse that man can assign a penance for our sin? Christ's sacrifice was for ALL sin - past and present. Why do I have to confess to a man, who gives me ACTS to preform to absolve me of sin...
You look at the early church, the one that existed before man had a chance to muck up the picture that Christ painted for us. Now look at today's Catholic church and tell me you think the Pope's doing it as God intended.
How's that reading of the bible in Latin working for you? What exactly are you getting out of that? What messages and mysteries of the Bible are being taught to you in a dead language you don't even understand?
Tithe - it is written in the bible to pay the government with what belongs to the government (money) but to pay God in what belongs to God. That changed! I don't see a collection of animals but I do see a collection of government issued currency.
Sodomy - it is written that men should not lay with men for fornication. I don't see the Roman Catholic church getting rid of any gay priest or pedaphile (another "it is written" about children's innocence) but I do see a rewriting of "what God meant" so for any disbeliever, this si unconvincing evidence of a God's power or the truth of a religion.
Originally posted by earth2
I see Christians worshipping a guy hanging on a cross, isn't that against the first commandment?
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.