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Jewish DNA Mysteries

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posted on May, 16 2010 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by BeastMaster2012
You know what i am dying to know? Are the Cochin Jews from India related to the Cohens?


Well spotted. You may have discovered something there that is not known or published yet...




posted on May, 16 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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I thought I heard a long time ago already that the DNA of Jews is closely related to that of everyone else in the middle east, moreso than it is different.

In other words Jews and Arabs are essentially one and the same blood line.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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What's that smell??? Mmmmm, I can't place it... Oh Wait!!! It's PROPAGANDA!
This whole BS about "Genetic markers" is exactly that - Pure BS!!! We ALL share genetic markers because we are ALL human beings descendant from... wait for it... other human beings! With there being almost 20,000 genes in the human genome, you can find hundreds of common genetic markers in humans and it means NOTHING!

The Jews have spent thousands of years trying to create some mystique around their "Identity". The reality is that their identity is that they are HUMAN. For every story I have read about the Jews having some special DNA, I have read dozens more that indicate that there is really nothing special about them at all. In fact, I recently read an article that claimed to prove that 99% of Jews aren't even Semites.

So, the Jews are a race - but just a part of the HUMAN race. Nothing more.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 09:04 PM
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The Jews in Israel today and around the world claiming to be Jews are not Israelites.
en.metapedia.org...

Their Biblical name is Amealek / Amalekites a tribe that came out the Edomites which are the progenitors of the White / Caucasian race.


1.INDIA = IYALAM = ELAM
2.ASSYRIA = AHSHAWAR = ASSHUR
3.SYRIA = AHRAM = ARAM
4.ARABS = YASHAMIAHLA = ISHMAEL
5.CHINESE = MAWAAHBA = MOAB
6.JAPANESE = IMAWAN = AMMON
7.SO CALLED WHITE PEOPLE = AHDAWAM = EDOM
8.ISRAEL = YASHARAHLA = 12 TRIBES
9.ETHIOPIANS = KAWASH = CUSH
10.EGYPTIANS = MATAZARYAM = MIZRAIM
11.NORTH AFRICA = PAWAT = PHUT
12.SOUTH AFRICANS = KANAIN = CANAAN= UNKNOWN
13.TURKEY = GAMAR = GOMER
14.RUSSIAN = MAGAWAG = MAGOG
15.GREEK = YAWAN = JAVAN
16.GERMAN = ASHKANAZ = ASHKENAZ
17.SPANISH = THARASHYASH = TARSHISH
18.CYPRUS = KATHAYAM = KITTIM

(13-18 are Edomites that kept Japhetic lands names after conquering them.)

The true 12 Tribes Of Israel

Judah - Negroes from the slave trade
Benjamin - West Indies
Levi - Haitians
Simeon - Dominicans
Zebulon - Guatemala to Panama
Ephraim - Puerto Ricans
Manasseh - Cubans
Gad - N.American Indians
Reuben - Seminole Indians
Napthali - Argentina to Chile
Asher - Columbia to Uruguay
Issachar - Mexicans




The government wont tell you this because they spent big money on culture wiping, history manipulating, iconoclasm and oppression over the past 500 years on real Israelites.
U.S. elites love worshiping all the former kingdoms that had the Israelites in captivity thorough out history. Egypt, Babylon, Assyria and Rome. This is the first time the Israelites have been culture wiped to such a huge extent.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Donnie Darko

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Jews are not a "race" no.


So you're saying the evidence presented iin the research shown in the OP is wrong?

If so on what counter-evidence?




they're not a race, they're mix-raced.
You aren't really addressing the topic source material.

I understand that you are saying, in general terms, "Jews", meaning ALL Jews in the world, if brought together, would be made up of people from different walks of life, different families, and have different characteristics.

The topic seems to be stating that a genetic line which can be definitively identified as "Jewish" has been isolated, and followed to a solid, proven source. The source.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by Wise Man
Their Biblical name is Amealek / Amalekites a tribe that came out the Edomites which are the progenitors of the White / Caucasian race.


1.INDIA = IYALAM = ELAM
2.ASSYRIA = AHSHAWAR = ASSHUR
3.SYRIA = AHRAM = ARAM
4.ARABS = YASHAMIAHLA = ISHMAEL
5.CHINESE = MAWAAHBA = MOAB
6.JAPANESE = IMAWAN = AMMON
7.SO CALLED WHITE PEOPLE = AHDAWAM = EDOM
8.ISRAEL = YASHARAHLA = 12 TRIBES
9.ETHIOPIANS = KAWASH = CUSH
10.EGYPTIANS = MATAZARYAM = MIZRAIM
11.NORTH AFRICA = PAWAT = PHUT
12.SOUTH AFRICANS = KANAIN = CANAAN= UNKNOWN
13.TURKEY = GAMAR = GOMER
14.RUSSIAN = MAGAWAG = MAGOG
15.GREEK = YAWAN = JAVAN
16.GERMAN = ASHKANAZ = ASHKENAZ
17.SPANISH = THARASHYASH = TARSHISH
18.CYPRUS = KATHAYAM = KITTIM

(13-18 are Edomites that kept Japhetic lands names after conquering them.)

The true 12 Tribes Of Israel

Judah - Negroes from the slave trade
Benjamin - West Indies
Levi - Haitians
Simeon - Dominicans
Zebulon - Guatemala to Panama
Ephraim - Puerto Ricans
Manasseh - Cubans
Gad - N.American Indians
Reuben - Seminole Indians
Napthali - Argentina to Chile
Asher - Columbia to Uruguay
Issachar - Mexicans


Can you provide links for this?

So you are saying that all americans came from the 12 tribes of Israel? Is this what you are implying?

Would love some links regarding this and the first list you posted. I have heard about the Khazars but not what you posted.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by BeastMaster2012

Can you provide links for this?

So you are saying that all americans came from the 12 tribes of Israel? Is this what you are implying?

Would love some links regarding this and the first list you posted. I have heard about the Khazars but not what you posted.


Yes.

Will require research on your part because I have most of my information in books that I collect.

There are quite a few people that youtube history books to prove but if your easily offended be careful.
search youtube.

www.dailymotion.com...
www.dailymotion.com...
www.dailymotion.com...

www.youtube.com.../u
www.youtube.com.../u
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

www.scribd.com...
www.jewwatch.com...

www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274080774&sr=8-1

www.amazon.com...=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1274083371&sr=8-8



Mainly the Bible scriptures prove it also.
The Apocrypha tells exactly how the 9 Northern Tribes (Natives/Latin tribes) left Israel around the building of the 2nd temple, to go to the Western Hemisphere (ARZARETH) traveling the Euphrates and around to get there(they didn't walk across a frozen ocean as Rockefeller text books claim) and also tells us Jesus came to America to talk to the tribes on that side.
The Native Indians and Latinos native to America have the common story of Jesus coming to talk to them before Euro-Christianity.
Theres books in the links on that and their traditional Israelite customs that were recorded when the first Europeans came.
Christopher Columbus knew how to get to America by reading the Bible scripture. He also carried a Hebrew interpreter on his voyages.

In 70 A.D when Rome took over Israel, over 1 million Israelites (Judah, Benjimin, Levi, the black tribes) fled into West Africa where they stayed and built kingdoms, about another million Israelites went into slavery under Rome and later spread into Europe.

The last slave ships in the trans Atlantic slave trade took black slaves from Russia and Britain.
All the blacks from the west African slave trade are Hebrews, which are not related in bloodline to the Africans (Hammetic) which is why Africans easily sold the Hebrews into slavery guilt free.

Zondervans Bible Dictionary:

Ham: 1. The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood.
He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negros, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.
His indecency, when his father lay drunken, bought a curse upon Canaan.
2.City E of Jordan.
3.The descendants of the original Ham. In these passages "Ham" is used as another name for Egypt as representing Ham`s principal descendants.

Also the curses of Deuteronomy only apply to the Israelites which why they are going through hell for the time being. All the Deuteronomy curses are on the Israelites today.
It's all prophecy.


[edit on 17-5-2010 by Wise Man]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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That is interesting.. i will have to do some research. Thanks for the lead.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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Your post have no truth to them at all. I bet you'll see oh yeah right. Because all you post is nothing but the same videos and annoying bible versues to suport your cause. Grow up!



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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it does sound pretty outrageous and i think it's odd that you can't find links to websites that make this claim. I did find a few however that talk about this subject.

www.myjewishlearning.com... _Jews.shtml


In the 8th century BCE, the Assyrians dispersed the Kingdom of Israel, giving life and legend to the Lost Tribes. The repatriation of these lost tribes eventually became an integral part of the Jewish--and Christian--messianic dream, and there have been Lost Tribe speculations about numerous "discovered" populations. One the most fascinating--and unfortunately forgotten--such discussions centered on the Native Americans. How did American Jews respond to this? Why and how did Jews accredit or discredit it? What did these theories signify about American Jewish agendas and anxieties?


www.jefflindsay.com...


If there is no genetic marker that can identify a person as a Jew, I would ask Thomas Murphy and other critics of the Book of Mormon exactly what DNA evidence we should be looking for to test the hypothesis that a tiny handful of Hebrew people entered the Americas in 600 B.C.?


The main reason i am interested in this subject is because of my fascination with the Mayans and ancient South Americans. There is a story of white men coming to their land in a peaceful manor and helping them with all aspects of life. More info on the white gods:

the-truth-seekers.org...


The Feathered Serpent God is one of the great mysteries of the ancient American cultures he was called Viracocha by the Incas, Kukulkan by the Mayas, Quetzalcoatl by the Aztecs, Gucumatz in Central America, Votan in Palenque and Zamna in Izamal. He and in some cases his ‘men’ were described as being Caucasian, bearded men in some writings and as someone with white skin, hair on the face and beautiful emerald eyes in others.


I had always had a feeling that they could have been jews because of the way some people have described them wearing robes, having long beards and so on. I have NEVER heard the connection of them possibly being jews but to me it makes the most sense.

I thought it could be knights templars or vikings, but these visits happened before their time.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 11:42 AM
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Thanks for the links! Really interesting to say the least. What get's me they speak of Whites before the Spaniards arrived to the Americas. Even if you believe Egyptians, Romans and vikings arrived here before them. Can the land mass of the planet be more connected in the pass from Asia? Buddhist were described as having light skin and blue eyes. What if mixed people with Asian and Caucasian ancestry, was kicked out of the East and then some how made it to the America's? If you look at Native Americans they look like to contain both Asian and European features.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by BeastMaster2012

I had always had a feeling that they could have been jews because of the way some people have described them wearing robes, having long beards and so on. I have NEVER heard the connection of them possibly being jews but to me it makes the most sense.

I thought it could be knights templars or vikings, but these visits happened before their time.


You will be interested to read this document.
www.noahsark-naxuan.com...

The info in the link the-truth-seekers.org... is pretty iffy, a lot of the dates and information are wrong (unintentionally) and the site has no sources.

I have seen a lot of the Mayan false Gods Idols and none of them look like Caucasians.

Also contrary to popular belief, the Vikings weren't white, they were Black Hebrews, in my previous post there are books that explain this.

From my research I would say Caucasians were almost the last people to find out about America.
Egyptians, Israelites, Chinese and Arabs already knew about America 100's and 1000's of years before.



posted on May, 18 2010 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by kozmo
What's that smell??? Mmmmm, I can't place it... Oh Wait!!! It's PROPAGANDA!


No its just science. But since its not politically correct science, its attacked.



posted on May, 18 2010 @ 01:03 PM
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I think the presence of the Bloodlines, and their links both through the mythical lost tribes, such as Dan, and possibly via William of Orange to Egyptian Royalty, that I've never seen demonstrated, but read about, thus to Judah, Sumar, and where that may lead, does lend to a specific genetic family, or grouping.

There are probably better links, but I haven't found it being demonstrated fully, just alluded to, so I'm going to quote one of my favorite documentary/video maker, Max Igan: thecrowhouse.com... The transcript for the video on the page contains the information:

There is one ruling bloodline that exists on this earth. This ruling Bloodline is very old. It is the same bloodline that has always ruled the earth ever since the days of ancient Egypt and it is very pervasive. For example, many people think that anyone can get to be President of the United States, but the reality is, that all US presidents have been freemasons, a large number of them are in fact related, and that their lineage can be traced back to European Monarchy and in particular to the line of William of Orange. This elite Bloodline can actually be traced back a good deal further than of William of Orange and can even back as far as the royalty of ancient Egypt. It is this very same bloodline that has ruled the earth ever since and to which the british Monarchy and the current US president can both be ultimately traced. Many people may surprised to learn That US President George W Bush is in fact the 13th cousin of Queen Elizabeth the second, the current British Monarch.

Reverence for the royal egyptian bloodline and worship of Amen Ra is still carried out in the world today though it is veiled and secretive but the symbolism remains true, as alway hidden in plain view. Adherence to such traditions is why each of the 3 city states of london, vatican and the district of Columbia all have their own obelisks. The London Obelisk is also accompanied by 2 sphinx wrought in the image of Thutmoses indicating that it is in london that the royal bloodline actually resides. The fact that out of all the Pharo's to choose from, the London sphinx depicts Thustmoses, is actually very telling indeed for a number of reasons but that is another tale.


It all ties in, to the control via Judiac religions, and the New Age version, Law of One as well.

I also find the idea of the tribes being spread out in the world, very interesting and there is probably some truth in it.

There is also the Sumeritans, kind of in opposition, and this is more personally what I was told by several sources that matched, both with high ranking family origins, that the opposition to the one group has always existed, Sumeritans to Sparta. The ET element exists in this, and altair is connected to the opposite check or balance, the checkerboard floor.



posted on May, 18 2010 @ 01:55 PM
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en.wikipedia.org...

From the References:

Cohen surname - a kohen (or cohen, Hebrew כּהן, "priest", pl. כּהנִים, kohanim or cohanim) is a Jew who is a direct male descendant of the Biblical Aaron.


and

From article:

Since the Samaritans maintain extensive and detailed genealogical records for the past 13–15 generations (approximately 400 years), it is possible to construct accurate pedigrees and specific maternal and paternal lineages. Y-Chromosome studies have shown that the majority of Samaritans belong to haplogroups J1 and J2, while the Samaritan Kohanim belong to haplogroup E1b1b1a (formerly known as E3b1a).[2] However, the last member of the Samaritan High-Priestly family, which claimed descent from Eleazar, the son of Aaron, died in 1623 or 1624. The office was then given to a Samaritan Levite branch, claiming to descend from the biblical Uzziel, the son of Kohath. Since that date the priest has called himself "Ha-Kohen Ha-Lewi", which means the Priest-Levite, instead of "Ha-Kohen Ha-Gadol", a title which referred to the High-Priest as in previous times.

The biblical tradition of the Cohen family living among the Samaritans is found in 2 Kings 17:27-28, where it indicates that only one Israelite Cohen was sent back from exile from Assyria by the King of Assyria to teach those living in the Northern Kingdom of Israel (Samaria). This suggests why some Samaritans may claim association of haplogroup E3b1a with the biblical Kohanim. In the same period that the ten Northern Tribes were exiled to Assyria, the Assyrians relocated those non-Israelites to the region around Samaria, explaining why those claiming to be Leviim or Kohanim were actually Syrians, who appointed other non-Israelites as priests ("Kohanim") from their own people. They performed non-Israelite-authorized priestly functions as observed by the biblical, priestly author at the time of the composition of the Book of Second Kings (cf. 2 Kings 17:32-34).

Thus far, no claims of ancestry of coming from the Levite tribe for male haplogroups outside of the "J" series can be scientifically substantiated because the mutation of haplogroups is so slow that no one coming from the family of Levi could have another haplogroup.


My theory is that each family or group may very well be linked to migrations occurring in the world, so that the Jewish Bloodlines, genetic strains, are intermingled into various races. It stems from a belief that we are all extraterrestrial from a variety, far more than the 12 tribes, but over 23 races, perhaps a lot more, and that we are the latest crop, intermixed, and "nerfed" by the negatives, but cosmic not just in soul, but dna as well.



posted on May, 18 2010 @ 02:23 PM
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I believe 2012 the real Hebrews will be restored and the Khazars will be punished for committing genocide. No country succeeded in stop this beast so God will have to do it himself. (NO, they are NOT Jews, read REAL History).

for more information:

www.rense.com...
www.hebrewisraelites.org...
www.mv.com...
www.angelfire.com...
http://(link tracking not allowed)/9bWZ5s
www.thewatcherfiles.com...
http://(link tracking not allowed)/9PnDCz

Edom has never stopped hating Jacob.

To put it bluntly, if you are Caucasian you are not a "hebrew" or "jew".



posted on May, 18 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by TSawyer
I believe 2012 the real Hebrews will be restored and the Khazars will be punished for committing genocide. No country succeeded in stop this beast so God will have to do it himself. (NO, they are NOT Jews, read REAL History).

for more information:

www.rense.com...
www.hebrewisraelites.org...
www.mv.com...
www.angelfire.com...
http://(link tracking not allowed)/9bWZ5s
www.thewatcherfiles.com...
http://(link tracking not allowed)/9PnDCz

Edom has never stopped hating Jacob.

To put it bluntly, if you are Caucasian you are not a "hebrew" or "jew".


Good post.

Technically Esau/Edom/Caucasian race is Hebrew, just not Israelite.

It's plain as day who the real Israelites are today.

The elite know they are Esau, their peons under them need to wake up to that fact.

Americas founding fathers knew what they were doing when they enslaved Israel and culture and heritage wiping was their main goal during slavery.



Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

Mic 2:2 And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take [them] away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.

People who don't understand the significance of Esau vs Jacob today are lost.



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by TSawyer
I believe 2012 the real Hebrews will be restored and the Khazars will be punished for committing genocide.


I believe you're talk is anti-semitic and 2012 is a Delusion.

I guess that would make me top choice for "disinfo agent"



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 03:03 AM
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posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by BeastMaster2012


I had always had a feeling that they could have been jews because of the way some people have described them wearing robes, having long beards and so on. I have NEVER heard the connection of them possibly being jews but to me it makes the most sense.

I thought it could be knights templars or vikings, but these visits happened before their time.


They always reminded me of Jews as well. I think that thought deserves some follow up, speculative as it may be.



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