reply to post by Soular System
I think the idea of a conspiracy as it concerns an event or belief system is very attractive to all of us. Conspiracies are ideal expressions of human
behavior because they seem to explain how and why things happen, that are complex, appear to be manipulated by some unseen hand, or are shocking and
unexpected (like JFK's assanation). I want to mention IMO what may be a neurological and psycological basis of why conspiracies seem so
"infectious". At the basic perception level the brain seeks to identify patterns in what we see and hear. We organize our lives into patterns, or
routines, and it's upsetting to us when something upsets our routine. We all seek to have a degree of control, as far as were concerned over our own
lives. At the extreme end of conspiracy belief, those who feel nothing is a conspiracy, or everything is, tells me a lot about someones level of self
respect, how "connected" they think they are.My observations, and it's only that, is that people who feel they have been treated unfairly by a
corporation, or the government seem more likely to feel they were "not told the truth" about what affected them.
When people consider something thats "really big" to be a conspiracy, the NWO, the government and Aliens, the heavy stuff, concern goes from "I'm
not being treated fairly, to whats going to happen to us?" I assure you all governments fear uncertainly and loss of confidence by their population
above everything else. All of them. You mention "power obsessed leaders". I think for a lot of them it's less due to meglomania or even greed, at
least at first. I think it's fear. The more power you have, the more other's covet it. Through history we see kings, tycoons, and pope's all
consumed with controlling more.But before I mention different structures, I need to provide a definition.
The is one trait of a conspiracy I feel is universal. Those who control it are unidentified. They may be in a very real sense, a no body. More likely
they may be well known and if not famous, familiar to a "community," financial, industrial, etc. Any connection to this conspiracy is
A conspiracy is similar to but not the same as a regular business arrangement. One definition is: "A conspiracy is an agreement between two or more
people, the existence and objective of is concealed from everyone else". A business that intentionally conceals illegal activity is concealing it's
activity from regulators and law enforcement. But in effect everyone. A secret and a conspiracy are close but: A secret is something concealed by
intent from others for whatever reason. With a secret you conceal the end products identity. A conspiracy conceals the true motivations of what your
doing in the first place. IMO if you had a program like NASA's, you might find some data they collect helpfull for your purpose's, as part of their
own activities, but they are not part of any conspiracy. Using those who can assist you by them doing what they'll do anyway, and not having it cost
you anything is just good business sense. Whatever that business is.
It seems if a major conspiracy is put in place, the reason must be so important (at least to the people involved) that the effort, byzantine
complexity and expense is seen as critical. The intent to manipulate an event, or more likely social reaction to an event would be required to prevent
social if not cultural implosion if suddenly released. A conspiracy has got to "make sense" If you look at an event like the moon landing being fake
don't worry about why, would all those who were involved, particulary the astronauts, stayed silent all this time? And just for the record, the
Russians were up our you know what monitoring everything we did during the space program, as we were them. They would have LOVED to have come out
saying it was all bogus. Though not a great example, this makes the point everyone needs at least a basic understanding of science. Those who don't
can easily be controlled by those who do. Or sound like they do. Most misleading information people get hysterical about is because they don't know
jack about the subject.
One area I think may involve a genuine, long term conspiracy is what I call "the alien thing". I have no preference for which version may be closer
to the truth, but I am less likely to buy their here just to save us, or destroy us, steal our women, gold, whatever. I'm suspicious by nature of
quasi-biblical events, if it sounds to simple, their not saying something, or were missing something. I'm as confused as every one else. But from the
way this subject has been presented to the public, I think something very real is going on concerning human interaction with non-human
intelligence's. I just don't know which part to believe, all or part, or if its all a screen for a real phenomana, but one the public is not aware.
Something's on fire, I just don't know what's burning.
Stepping back from the perspective of abductee's, whistle blowers, government (Here I use the rule: The government saying nothing at certain moments
speaks volumes), I try less to figure out certain events at first, but ask myself whats my first impression? We know the government used UFO's to
cover some classiefied air craft. Sounds good, I'd been disappointed if they diden't. I think some amazing craft are ours. But I think most reports
of craft are not. Alien reports seem, well, alien, but some reports mention military involvement, during some abductions, but, that what's some
people report. I am fully convinced there is an aggressive long term disinformation program going on here. We also make the assumption the government
is in charge of disclosure. That would mean their in control of something... Disinformation can mean look there, we don't want you to be aware of
something else. Used often for military reasons, like the Normandy invasion, etc.
But something as big as this can't just be put in a safe, or they can't divert your attention. Yes for individual situations, not the whole concept.
The only way it can work is to bury you in every possible type of information. Crafted to appeal to those drawn to the spiritual, scientific, and, yes
conspiracy buffs. By having people of different reputations present data of variable reputability, it's confusing. Disinformation also requires you
to play your part. In that sense, it's very "viral" or "plant a rumor, it will spread". That can include certain UFO/Alien books, TV program's.
No, not everything about this subject is a conspiracy. But it's not impossible to influence a writers, or producers perspective, depending who thay
think a source is. The ideal conspiracy doesn't hide, or blend in. It is part of the establishment. A massive economic conspiracy must have the
co-operation and active support of people who know nothing of it;s true nature. It does not use the system, it is the system. It's like the
difference between a cult and a religion. When the cult becomes mainstream, we no longer call it a cult. It's all a matter of perspective.