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Thailand warns of 'live firing zone' near Bangkok camp

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posted on May, 15 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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Thailand warns of 'live firing zone' near Bangkok camp


news.bbc.co.uk

The Thai army has designated an area of Bangkok as a "live firing zone" in a warning to protesters on a third day of violence that has killed at least 16.

"No entry" signs have been put up near a barricaded camp where the protesters, who want the prime minister to resign, have been based since March.

Authorities have ruled out negotiations with the red-shirt protesters.

Army snipers have been accused of targeting protesters...
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on May, 15 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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This looks very ominous. Going on recent events this is not an empty threat. The question is: will such heavy-handed tactics be the catalyst that brings even more people onto the streets?

I can't help thinking, "What's wrong with negotiations?" Do they really think killing protesters will solve the situation?

news.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 06:48 AM
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Hopefully it will end soon. I was at work Friday and heard the gunshots coming from nearby. The problem is that the red shirts are becoming little more than terrorists right now and something has to be done to end this before it cripples the country. I hope they can do so peacefully, but I have a feeling that won't happen.



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:07 AM
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You care more about 'crippling the economy' than the loss of precious unarmed human lives who is only begging for better care and concern?????!!!!!



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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So what concessions would the government have to make to get the protestors to go home? Are they all entirely reasonable?



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:21 AM
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All the protestors want is the murderous animal govt to step down and call for fresh elections, furthermore, the electoral commission already declare them fradulant in the previous election.

If the animals from the absh$t govt are so confidant that they have the mandate to rule, why the fear to call for fresh elections?

Nope. They would rather murder the unarmed protestors. Personally, I would advise those courageous men to give it up and go home so that no lives be lost. The critical mass is no longer there.

But these acts by the priviledged animals will not be forgotten, and only more blood will be shed later. This is the consequence of what the animals had done.

Money can always be earned back anytime or in time. But lives lost is gone forever. The absh%t animals had not cared about the economy or lives, and they will have to pay, similarly anyone who sides with them. Human lives are precious.



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:24 AM
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Well said.

In the light of the above article, do you think there is going to be a blood-bath if the protestors don't disperse today?



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:36 AM
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I am not a seer, and all I can do is pray that there be NO bloodbath, please no...the protestors are unarmed and are only pleading for crumbs, not even main courses...



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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Here's another current article that makes it sound like the situation is balanced on a knife-edge:


...The spiralling violence, which has moved from street to street over the past three days, has raised concerns that Thailand is heading towards civil war.

"The situation right now is getting closer to civil war every minute," a protest leader, Jatuporn Prompan, said. "We have to fight on. The leaders shouldn't even think about retreat when our brothers are ready to fight on."

...The United Nations secretary general, Ban Ki-Moon, expressed concern over "the rapidly mounting tensions and violence". A spokesman said in a statement: "He strongly encourages them to urgently return to dialogue in order to de-escalate the situation and resolve matters peacefully."

...The government said yesterday that it would restore order "in the next few days" but a source close to the army chief, Anupong Paochinda, said the conflict was "unlikely to end quickly".

"I am not scared," Sanae Promman, a 37-year-old protester, told Reuters. "Some of my friends have left because they are scared but many are still here to fight. We will fight until we die if we must."


Source: Thai death toll rises as redshirts clash with troops



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Here's another source. Video from Bangkok.
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posted on May, 15 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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Yet more reason to get depressed at humanity. They would rather kill the people than listen to them. Sad. Do you think humans will ever overcome this ridiculous stupidity we suffer from?



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 02:18 PM
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I watched the whole video seeing as you went to such trouble. (Note to others: things get pretty hairy just before the 4-minute mark.)

Any news on casualties? Has all the recent firing been in one direction (i.e. from the military)?

Please do keep us updated - but please don't do so at personal risk.



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:06 PM
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reply to post by pause4thought
 

Actually, I am not in Bangkok. I just found news and video on this web site:
thethaireport.com



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
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You care more about 'crippling the economy' than the loss of precious unarmed human lives who is only begging for better care and concern?????!!!!!


Way to misquote me there. How the hell would you know what I care about? I said cripple the country, not cripple the economy. And what makes you think the red shirts are the good guys here? Both sides are in the wrong on this one. Do you think the red shirts shooting grenades and setting off bombs is helping matters at all? Protesting is one thing, but when you start bombing the place you are just as much at fault as the government. If they want the "murderous government" to stop, then maybe they should leave the bombs and grenades behind.

I hope they get the elections they want. They have a fair point in that regard. Like I said before, I just want this to end soon. I look out my window right now and I see black smoke rising. When I've gone to bed the last few nights, I've heard gunshots in the distance. I don't like what is going on any more than you do, but this needs to end before more lives are lost and YES before the economy is crippled as well.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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I can understand your situation over there and hope that you stay safe. If possible, pack your bags and take your family out of Thailand now.

The NWO bootlickers are out in full force now and spinning their crap here. It is easy for foreigners like us to form judgement based on what was written, just as we had been continually lied to in the past by them.

All the red shirts want is better representation against the current illegal and fraudulent govt holding power. This fact you already know. As for the pushing of blame on the mythical figure of Thaksin, it may be right. His only crime was for showing that he cared for the poor, whom had been neglected for years, and now he is being tarred and feathered, painted as thrash as political dissenters often are.

But talking about Thaksin and his policies are moot, because he is not there and the red shirt are fighting for better distribution of wealth, something which I believe you are concern with too. It's not loose change we are talking about, but developement which covers the basic rights of all humans - medicare, infrastructure, education, social welfare, etc.

The NWO bootlickers continually harped on Thaksin, in the hope that blame will be taken off their own shoulders for their avarice and rapine of Thailand's wealth at the expense of the poor.

If the poor had wanted to kill and pillage, they would have done so long ago when the protest first started. But no, they did not, and even went personally to the US embassy to assure US citizens that they were for peaceful protest.

But in April, at the insistance of the criminal Absh*t govt, the reluctant army fired upon UNARMED civilians - men, women and children. 25 dead, majority of them civilians and another 800 civilians now lay in hospital with bullet wounds from the army.

There were grenades thrown, but no one owned up. it could have been the red shirts, but it could also had been from the army or the priviledged rich. Such grenades and weapons are easily obtained. Yet they still peacefully protested, harming no one.

The Absh*t govt could have just given in, after all, they were guilty of electoral fraud anyway, held elections and if they were confident that they had the mandate to rule, they would have won hands down. Thaksin is already a convict and could not return to Thailand in any case to take part.

But no, instead the sh*tty govt brand these poor as terrorists and set the well equipped and well armed army onto soft civilian skin targets. Blood flowed. Beginning with a red shirt leader shot by an army sniper while unarmed and conducting an interview.

A citizen murdered in broad daylight. Imagine Sarah Pauline being shot while she does her thing here. The nation will go nuts! But it happened in Thailand.

It's a terrible, terrible mistake. First blood had occured. It will never cease even if the protestors go home. A new breed of terrorism that did not exist before, will exist now, and is created in Thailand, thanks to the abs*t govt.

If you are hoping things to go back to normal, think again. Thus my advice for you to leave Thailand now.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 06:05 AM
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I'm staying for now, but I am prepared to leave if I need to. I'm not in a position where I can place blame because I don't know everything that has lead up to this. All I know is that both groups are causing problems and the only ones who will end up suffering are the innocent people as we've seen in the last couple months and in previous incidents like this.

Sure, the average red shirt wants better representation for the poorer people who live in the rural areas of Thailand and I think they have every right to protest their government if they believe they aren't being represented. At the same time, there are people who claim to be for all that but in the end just want to stir up trouble. Blame can be thrown around all day, but corrupt government and corrupt leaders of the red shirt groups are going to continue to cause problems for everyone here.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 06:50 AM
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I can understand how the protest is disrupting your life in a foreign country, and sending fear into you and your loved ones lives, and thus your anger against the red shirts impoverished poor.

It is comprehensible that you would blame them, readily think ill of them of all kinds of crime, agree with whomever that agrees with your current feelings, and ignore the greater reality of manslaughtering by the fraudalent govt forces that is happening on streets near you..

But as a foreigner living in their country, I hope you would spare them a thought.

They are there fighting for their rights long denied, even at the cost of their lives.

We may be inconvenienced only for a while, or we can easily fly home to our better and more democratic country, protected by our solid constitutions, but these needy people will have to suffer poverty for the rest of their lives and their next generations as well if no solutions other than murdering them are found.

Take care.

[edit on 16-5-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]



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