Camp Fema, America Locked Down

I have posted part one to watch the rest simple put the next part number in place of (1) if this doesn’t wake you up nothing ever will. I once thought it could never happen here, I did not realize that it already has, and how easily it could happen again. Now with the rumor of the UN Army supported by President Obama, I feel this could too easily occur over night and what kind of resistance would they face, most people will just follow like sheep lead to the slaughter, few of us will resist at the very cost of our own lives. When this happens I pray for any one whom may still be alive, because I can only imagine what life will be like under a Socialist régime and Islam in power.

I wonder if some of this will be incarceration due to to tax issues. I am being audited by the IRS for fees and backtaxes that I'm not even sure I owe right now. I don't own a small business, I don't make very much money, I'm not a protester and even let some of my refunds go to the feds because I think we do need some form of government and it does require some money to function...however, I am barely able to survive from payday to payday and have NO assest, NO retirement, NOTHING of value in a material sense. They called me on the phone and warned me of the pending investigation... maybe this is what the 16,000 new IRS agents are going to be doing to ALL of us??? Gotta foot the HC bucks I guess. Maybe I will be one of the first camp residents??? I will receive the paperwork in ten days, and will be expected to pay in full, or make arrangements for payment in the next thirty days. They want $25,000 dollars...where am I going to get that I wonder???

This kinda reminds me of the way Worldcom did business in the months and weeks prior to their total disintegration. Maybe this is a sign that the coffers are really empty afterall. I wonder. Idaho medicaid just went belly up and Utah medicaid isn't paying the bills as of the last couple of months... FEMA camps, could they really be the next step in the process, like a new type of debtor prison?

Seems like a logical move, really. The prisons and jails are full. If they are going to get agressive with the taxpayers, they may actually need more room to store them

Jeez, while we are talking about debt, didn't they just nationalize student loans as well?? I'm totally screwed I guess...

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Originally posted by PapaKrok
I will receive the paperwork in ten days, and will be expected to pay in full, or make arrangements for payment in the next thirty days. They want $25,000 dollars...where am I going to get that I wonder???

how in the hell did they come up
with that amount ???
What is it for ????

as a side note:
kinda makes the RAP (Restore America Plan)
look like a hoax doesn't it. As the RAP
states the IRS will be non-existent in
Feb 2011. The RAP told us NOT to pay the IRS.
And now the IRS is cracking down.
So who still thinks the RAP was for the good
of Americans ??? It was a TRAP instead.


[edit on 13-5-2010 by boondock-saint]

I don't know. She was using some kind of cumputer software program to calculate the penalties, fees fines and interest. She has all of my W2 info and my personal info at her fingertips. She called me on my CELL PHONE! How do you think she got that info? Funny thing is, she said "if you had filed on time you would have had a $300 refund, now you owe penalties, etc"... maybe she screwed up. I have a bad feeling about this. I even used the IRS programs to prepare my taxes.

I had a dream a few years back about moving with a large crowd toward a fenced enclosure somewhere in the West Desert of Utah. I was in a funk and confused, trying to decide whether or not to make a run for it. I felt exactly like that yesterday when they called me...

Taxes, Student Loans, Mortages, all of this debt will eventually be in the hands of the government. Could FEMA camps be the return of the debtor prison?

Originally posted by PapaKrok
Could FEMA camps be the return of the debtor prison?

The debtor prison was fortified with the Clinstone act by making it a Federal Offense to be behind in child support more than $10,000.00!

Another great issue that people better start taking seriously. Yes, the USA is already well "prepared", and the evidence is all around, not just on videos you might find. Take a look at your local post office. Most have been "converted" into what looks like possible holding areas for personal. Is your local post office near railroad tracks by chance? The probability goes way up that it's been "prepared" already. Inside, you may even find what looks like "too much" surveillance equipment for such a place. After all, it's just a damn post office!

Outside, look carefully at the fence. Unless it's a very small station, most post offices have a fenced yard, where the delivery vehicles come in and out. Any barbed, or even "razor" wire anywhere? Oh, that just makes sense, maybe to keep people out you think? LOOK CLOSELY. The top of the fence these days will often have that razor wire angled to the INSIDE of the postal yard. In other words, the fence is obviously designed to keep people IN, not to keep people out. Ask yourself, WHY??

Answer: It's exactly what it looks like. The humble, and never-suspected post office is thee most ubiquitous extension of "federal" property in the country. They are EVERYWHERE. And over the past decade, they have been getting them ready. No, they may not be the "final destination", but the fact that they are here, in plain sight for all to see, should make you wonder.

Why no outrage? Where is a good answer to this apparently very sinister development? If you're reading this, please make it a point to confirm what I'm saying for yourself, in your own town, your own post office. Again, if it's very small, you may see nothing. But I've personally seen the same set-up at even rather "small" post offices, and if they are conveniently near the railroad, then count on it.

Yes, something is coming, and logic says it can't be good...

JR MacBeth
MyBlog: Gathering Storms Ahead

Just thinking out loud...

"Debt bondage is often a form of disguised slavery in which the subject is not legally owned, but is instead bound by a contract to perform labor to work off a debt, under terms that make it impossible to completely retire the debt and thereby escape from the contract."

That's kinda like attaching outrageous fees, penalties and interest to a very small, even non existant debt.... this kind of thinking, historically, led to poor houses, debtors prisons, indentured servitude, etc. I think the idea of a system of work camps to recapture "owed' monies isn't that far fetched. It has a great deal of historical evidence.

The State is acquiring nearly everything under the premise of the bailout. What the State bails, the State assumes ownership over. American bankers have been buying and selling our debt for decades. We can't pay anymore and they are facing some serious shortages of cash... I really think the next logical move is enforced "debt bondage" or even outright indentured servitude.

We are seeing it already in the healthcare fields, where someone is contractually obligated to work for an employer, often at reduced pay levels, for a number of years in order to have their student loans compensated. The HC Bill has a ton of provisions for that kind of contract, as well as opportunities for national service. the military has the GI Bill...

Damn. FEMA work camps? A definite possibility. Makes more fiscal sense than rounding up random Christians anyway...

Food shortage. I believe martial law will happen because of food related issues. Is there something happening with crops we don't know about?

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In california they are doing everything they can to empty the prisons right now. It is very quiet though. There is something like 33-36 state prisons here and they are cutting back sentences and releasing people on summary parole. I haven't really heard much about them laying off prison guards though. Does anyone have any numbers on that?

Originally posted by onequestion
Does anyone have any numbers on that?

I read somewhere that it was
10,000 statewide

dont know where I read it

Every day I find more and more things that make me say no sh*t didn’t realize that before. Today is no different, I have an escape plan, but not the funds to carry it out but I share it with everyone I know and will share some of it here. You can find more info on other post and threads by me.

The ocean is going to be our only escape from this madness, but even that has its down falls, the navy, pirates, and natural extreme weather. But even all that the odds are better than staying land locked. A boat over 25 foot with a desalinization unit on board can be installed for around 7k and will provide a 150 gallons of fresh drinking water, food from the sea, fuel need for the generator for the water unit, and fuel for the boat, if sailing conditions are not favorable. You can survive for years out at sea, just 25 miles off shore, what ever path you chose to follow may God Bless us all and save us from ourselves.

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10,000 prison guards statewide? Holy bananas. If that is even close to the real number then that is scary. There is something scary going on in this country, i don't know if we have quiet put our fingers on it completely, or if FEMA is really to blame, but there is something like this happening.

I don't mean to change subjects but i think this may have something to do with everything posted, what is blackwater up to these days?

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"How I clobbered every cash confiscatory and bureaucratic agency known to mankind"

read it.

Just a thought.....if just 10% of the businesses and people in the US decided not to pay the IRS....I'll bet that would flood the IRS with more work than they could handle. Lets see....300 million people would be 3 million cases.....I wonder how many businesses there are in the US? I'll bet the FEMA camps couldn't hold them all. What if 20% or more decided not to pay........

The way I see it the food will be in supply but we will not be able to afford it due to inflation. We riot, we go to camp.

Originally posted by JR MacBeth The top of the fence these days will often have that razor wire angled to the INSIDE of the postal yard.

Yes, if you build a fence around your property, and you build it right on the property line as is normal, you cannot have outward angling barbed wire that projects out beyond your own property.

Even golf courses built over a hundred years ago have inwardly facing barbed wire. Not saying you are wrong about the FEMA thing, but standard construction methods, and local property laws demand that nothing projects out beyond the property boundary.

To address the issue of food that some have asked about, I live in Florida and no there is no problems with our crops down here, they are plentiful and do just fine. Of course most of the crops in Florida are citrus, but we also have cattle farms and peanut farms as well and no reports of problems. The big problem as someone else has mentioned will be the price so I recommend buying from a farmers market or the farmer direct and if you have the space starting you own garden this will help with your food budget and is easy too do. I was raised in New Jersey and most of my family is still there, I have heard no problems with there crop either. The best thing you can do for yourself and family is to pay off all debt you can except maybe your house, but everything else, and have it done in a few years, if you can not figure out how to pay it all off in that time I would recommend bankruptcy it is not that hard to do and will save you a lot of head aches latter. When you go shopping especially for food products buy in bulk anything that does not spoil and try to do a months worth of shopping at one time, this will save you in the long run as price start to climb and fuel cost to get back an forth to the store. Summer is about here the prices always go up so stock up, there are lots of meat products that have a long freezer life just ask the butcher he or she can help you set up a freezer plan that can be laid out monthly or even as far as six months in advance depending on space of course. If you are getting more than a months worth it would be a good idea to have a generator incase of power outages since we are heading into hurricane season and rumor of supper high energy prices, so have a good supplies of gas on hand to run the generator just in case.

I hope that helps some of you out and if you have any questions just ask.

gee no-one better riot or go against anything the government proposes or you might see inside 4 walls outwards there...

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Thanks Tony, appreciated, but I would still encourage people to take a look at their local post offices for themselves, and now, in addition, factor in your observation about property lines as well. If you "see what I see", you will see that the "obvious" issue of property lines doesn't seem to matter. For those who may not be quite as observant, I can tell you that the number one thing you will notice, once you look for it, is that that inward-angled barbed wire will likely be staring at you as you roll into the parking lot. NOT a property line boundary issue, should be going across your mind, as you pull into your parking spot, in the post office parking lot, and see that fence with postal vehicles behind it.

I think all of us are conditioned to seldom question what is right in front of us. We see, and yet we do not see. Again, I would enjoy hearing from someone who has seen what I have been seeing in their own town, and I think it would be worthwhile if they reported what they saw in this thread. If all they can see is a fence at the property line, then fine, Tony has the explanation. However, if you find that this is not the typical case, then we would need to find another explanation.

I'll go one further. I once asked our local postmaster, who had made a rare appearance at the counter about it. I could see right away he hadn't even thought about it before, maybe no one had ever asked him about it. He did answer though, as he straightened his glasses, with a dead-pan, "They're all built this way"... No, I was sure he didn't "know" this, but OK, I'm Joe Public, tell him anything. The point is, if even the postal employees are the last ones to even consider anything "odd" about the place they see every day of their lives, why should we notice anything?

And that's exactly the further point to make here. The post office is just about the last place anyone is going to be looking for anything odd. Sure, step into CIA headquarters, and you're ready for anything. But the dumb post office? And that would be exactly a good reason to choose them for a potential "FEMA" / round-up situation, along with the fact that they happen to be literally everywhere.

JR MacBeth
My New Blog: Gathering Storms Ahead