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Originally posted by ker2010
Originally posted by iSeeKEnlightenment8o5
I agree with both Piddles (I think that's his username) and Antonia.
I know a few illegals too, and they work in the fields picking fruit. They earn minimum wage just like the other legal workers around them. And they most certainly do not live the good life. I feel bad for all of them because here they are trying to support their families here and across the border.
Yep listen to both sides of the arguement their are also those that make 15-20 a hour... Its a fact.
Originally posted by ker2010
reply to post by antonia
The problem is easily solvable IF ,,, IF the government wanted to solve it.
Fine anyone hiring illegals oodles of money, and when a illegal is turnd in deport them.
Problem solved.
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by SWCCFAN
We need to enforce the Laws on the books and expand the states rights like the new AZ law and make it 10 times harder to be here illegally.
Funny how Americans want the laws enforced only when it is convenient to them.
Come on law abiding Americans, let us enforce all laws on the books.
Florida Laws
* Women may be fined for falling asleep under a hair dryer, as can the salon owner. (Guess they could cook their brains...)
* A special law prohibits unmarried women from parachuting on Sunday or she shall risk arrest, fine, and/or jailing.
* If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle. (Ringling Bros. must have been caught trying to park for free?)
* It is illegal to sing in a public place while attired in a swimsuit.
* Men may not be seen publicly in any kind of strapless gown. (Well sure, it would fall off!)
* Having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal. (Ouch. What spineless legislator thought that one up?)
* It is illegal to skateboard without a license.
* When having sex, only the missionary position is legal. (Not going to touch that one!)
* You may not fart in a public place after 6 P.M. on Thursdays. (So eat your beans and cabbage for breakfast on Thursdays, please. Wait a minute - why just Thursdays?)
* It is considered an offense to shower naked. (For some people, that may be true...)
* You are not allowed to break more than three dishes per day, or chip the edges of more than four cups and/or saucers. (I would certainly hope not in this house!)
* Oral sex is illegal. (No kissing, please!)
* You may not kiss your wife's breasts. (What about women other than your wife?)
* Penalty for horse theft is death by hanging.
sneakykitchen.com...
I could see why someone in Mexico would rather pay $200 to have someone smuggle them across the border.
Originally posted by antonia
Originally posted by ker2010
reply to post by antonia
The problem is easily solvable IF ,,, IF the government wanted to solve it.
Fine anyone hiring illegals oodles of money, and when a illegal is turnd in deport them.
Problem solved.
Oh? Really, lol
You think a government that can't even win a war against cave-dwelling terrorists with Ak-47's (which are probably one of the worst weapons ever made for automatic mode, try hitting something with that out of single shot) can solve this problem? Or even wants to for that matter?
Ok let's say you get your wish and tomorrow we gather up all 7 to 20 million of these people with their families and kick em out. Firstly, how in the hell are you gonna pay to move, house and feed those people until you get them over the the border. Furthermore, what make you think Mexico is gonna let you just dump these people off at their border? They are pretty hard-pressed to absorb that many people in a short amount of time. heck, we didn't even absorb them in less than a decade. And how do you expect to pay for all of this? You do realize we are 13 trillion in the hole? We haven't even discussed the economies that will be impacted, what happens to the kids, etc.
If rational thinking makes one a sympathizer, well, I guess I am one. Sorry, I used my head instead of buying into chain e-mails.
Which one of this laws not enforced would cost the tax payer billions???
I rest my case
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by ker2010
Which one of this laws not enforced would cost the tax payer billions???
I rest my case
Go and take some math classes and you will see how enforcing all the laws on the books could run in the billions.
Your comeback is pretty lame.
While your worried about your billions, our government has an opened tab of 13 trillion and counting.
But I am sure that is no concern to you. After all, you simply blame the illegals.
Originally posted by ker2010
LOL thats pocket change. You know how we afford it. You know how many billions we spend a month in irag?
We get our troops home and stop policing the world and going into wars we need not be in. Stop spending that war money and use it for real issues here in the states that effect us.
If we can spend billions in iraq we can spend it here.
[edit on 13-5-2010 by ker2010]
•In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.
Originally posted by antonia
Originally posted by ker2010
LOL thats pocket change. You know how we afford it. You know how many billions we spend a month in irag?
We get our troops home and stop policing the world and going into wars we need not be in. Stop spending that war money and use it for real issues here in the states that effect us.
If we can spend billions in iraq we can spend it here.
[edit on 13-5-2010 by ker2010]
Sure, but have you seen this?
en.wikipedia.org...
I'm not sure why people seem to think that if you get rid of illegals all of a sudden these problems go away. No, they don't. You are still broke.
www.usatoday.com...
Now look at this. The Feds admitted they got 9 billion from taxing illegals (was in one of the GAO reports). You think they are going to give that income up considering Social Security is unfundable? There is a dirty open secret for those who understand demographics. White people aren't having kids much anymore. They are the majority, so in truth the taxpayer base would shrink. In fact, for awhile people thought population would actually drop. There needed to be an influx of young workers to support those retiring. Illegal influx...hmmm...i wonder.
[edit on 13-5-2010 by antonia]
Originally posted by jam321
The going rate is 2500 to 5000 dollars per person.
But if you dont think they effect anything look at CA economy.
Originally posted by Niccawhois
reply to post by SWCCFAN
Bravo! Too bad none of the pro illegal immigration types will understand any of it...
I imagine if you were to spend all your time licking the boots of all the Non-White peoples in the United States because you somehow feel guilty about the success of the Caucasian race, you wouldn't have time to look up and see any of the counter productive activity's they are engaging en-mass!
Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration
•In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.
What they fail to realize is that they are wrapping a noose around their own neck while walking off cliff condemning everyone else that gets it for being racist.
Either that or they don't earn enough money to pay any significant taxes and receive welfare themselves...
Originally posted by ker2010
You said earlier you think we are already overpopulated. OK how populated do you think we will be by 2050 if we do not fix the problem>?
Their may be no easy solution but one must be made. If not for us for our kids future and well being.