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False Left/Right Paradigm For Beginners

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posted on May, 13 2010 @ 01:23 PM
This is hopefully a reference point for someone that has recently awoken. I will present a few basic ideas for some of our newer members or whoever. This has been presented many many times here on this site. However, when one views this particular forum, Political Madness, one wonders how many have seen the evidence…Any experts, please chime in, as I am not.

In general, Republicans are ideally portrayed as Conservative, Patriotic, Pro-Gun, Anti-Abortion, Smaller Government, Less Taxes, etc…

In fact, they are responsible for the 3+ wars we have going on right now. And, they passed the Patriot Act! And, they started the corporate bailout!

In general, Democrats are ideally portrayed as Caring, Liberal, Smaller Military, Pro-Choice, Pro-Freedoms, Tax And Spend
, etc…

In fact, they have continued the corporate bailout, and expanded it in fact. They have increased our war efforts and are in charge of the corporate media that is preaching to us how Iran is the new boogie man
!!! And, they continue to take away our freedoms…

And, in fact, we have now solidified our place as the biggest DRUG DEALERS, (that's and me if you are American!!) in the world!! Did you know that our control and support of the poppy fields in Afghanistan proves the US heads the biggest drug cartel and is dealing heroin!!!! At the same time we are fighting the War On Drugs, remember???

Must-see basic info here-

Next time your family or friends or coworkers or ATS member spouts off about the Dems good good that…or Repubs great great this…KNOW they are caught in the trap. It is meant to distract them from seeing both parties are the SAME and work for the SAME corporate masters!!! Please think about it.

And one more thing, don’t let anybody tell you we did it because we were fighting Terrorism, laugh in their face
Because, if our government was really worried about stopping terrorism or protecting US Citizens, why are the borders and ports WIDE OPEN?? Huh?

They are in on it together, patting each other backs behind the scenes!

It's MIND CONTROL I tell 'ya!

Related threads-

[edit on 13-5-2010 by Signals]

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 01:51 PM
I can tell you are an American by your amazement about America's drug dealing. This is pretty much well known outside the US. I have a Saudi friend and he told me that everyone in his country knows that America and the Bush's are behind the world drug scene. You have heard about the CIA coc aine plane crash I am sure.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 01:55 PM
reply to post by damwel

Actually though I have read a bit about CIA and drugs, I have not heard of that plane crash. Can you offer more?

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 02:01 PM

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by damwel

Actually though I have read a bit about CIA and drugs, I have not heard of that plane crash. Can you offer more?

Without wishing to derail Signals' thread, here's a good starting point for the answer to your question:

This btw is a very convoluted conspiracy involving Drugs, CIA, Venezuela, elections both in Venezuela and the US.

Related thread:

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 02:06 PM
reply to post by schrodingers dog

Thank you very much.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 03:26 PM
reply to post by Signals

Time to flip a coin.

Heads they win, tails we lose.

Dang it!

Let me try again.



Lesser of two evils, is still evil.

Let me try something else.

Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

So, we have come to several ideas here in reality.
Government does not seem to understand anything.
It seems anytime anyone goes to Washington, there seems to be a vortex of some sorts that removes all reason, all thought, all control.

No matter what they said to get into office, they do the exact opposite.

No new taxes. Yeah right.
Change. Yeah right.

I think I will post a past speech from one of the last sane people in Washington.

Current Conditions or just a bad dream.

For those that cannot watch the video-

Could it all be a bad dream, or a nightmare?
Is it my imagination, or have we lost our minds?
It's surreal; it's just not believable.
A grand absurdity; a great deception, a delusion of momentous proportions; based on preposterous notions; and on ideas whose time should never have come; simplicity grossly distorted and complicated; insanity passed off as logic; grandiose schemes built on falsehoods with the morality of Ponzi and Madoff; evil described as virtue; ignorance pawned off as wisdom; destruction and impoverishment in the name of humanitarianism; violence, the tool of change; preventive wars used as the road to peace; tolerance delivered by government guns; reactionary views in the guise of progress; an empire replacing the Republic; slavery sold as liberty; excellence and virtue traded for mediocracy; socialism to save capitalism; a government out of control, unrestrained by the Constitution, the rule of law, or morality; bickering over petty politics as we collapse into chaos; the philosophy that destroys us is not even defined.

We have broken from reality--a psychotic Nation. Ignorance with a pretense of knowledge replacing wisdom. Money does not grow on trees, nor does prosperity come from a government printing press or escalating deficits.

We're now in the midst of unlimited spending of the people's money, exorbitant taxation, deficits of trillions of dollars--spent on a failed welfare/warfare state; an epidemic of cronyism; unlimited supplies of paper money equated with wealth.

A central bank that deliberately destroys the value of the currency in secrecy, without restraint, without nary a whimper. Yet, cheered on by the pseudo-capitalists of Wall Street, the military industrial complex, and Detroit.

We police our world empire with troops on 700 bases and in 130 countries around the world. A dangerous war now spreads throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. Thousands of innocent people being killed, as we become known as the torturers of the 21st century.

We assume that by keeping the already-known torture pictures from the public's eye, we will be remembered only as a generous and good people. If our enemies want to attack us only because we are free and rich, proof of torture would be irrelevant.

The sad part of all this is that we have forgotten what made America great, good, and prosperous. We need to quickly refresh our memories and once again reinvigorate our love, understanding, and confidence in liberty. The status quo cannot be maintained, considering the current conditions. Violence and lost liberty will result without some revolutionary thinking.

We must escape from the madness of crowds now gathering. The good news is the reversal is achievable through peaceful and intellectual means and, fortunately, the number of those who care are growing exponentially.

Of course, it could all be a bad dream, a nightmare, and that I'm seriously mistaken, overreacting, and that my worries are unfounded. I hope so. But just in case, we ought to prepare ourselves for revolutionary changes in the not-too-distant future.

Read that last part in bold again, ask yourself, do these people have any clue how pissed we are yet?

[edit on 5/13/2010 by endisnighe]

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 05:47 PM
You are right on the money about the two major parties in the US being very similar. It's not a matter of have similar platforms or even voting in a similar way. It's more hidden than that. Just ask yourself a question. Who are the members of my party's national committee? Who are the members of my party's state committee? Who are the members of my party's local committee?

Most people can't answer those questions. The reason being that the members of the party committees aren't "public figures" like politicians are. They are the movers and shakers behind the scenes. They are the people who set the party's platform and choose whom they are going to fund in elections across the country. The Tea Party's don't seem to understand that this is what they are really fighting against. The control of the parties by shadowy figures who do not answer to the people of this country.

The truth of the matter is that members of the committee's don't have to follow the same disclosure laws that politicians do. They don't have to disclose where their money comes from, they aren't barred, by law, from taking huge kickbacks from special interests or from cutting deals with whomever they want to set their agendas. The average politician has to march in lock step with what these people want or they don't get party funding for their next election or, worse, the party puts forth a challenger and backs that person.

The party national committees wield a huge amount of power over our government and don't have to be accountable to anyone but themselves concerning how they use that power. These are the people that we need to focus more light on.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 05:54 PM

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by Signals

Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

I should quit work then because everyday I wake up and go to work I hope for a better day but its all the same S*%T just a different day.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 09:04 PM
reply to post by Signals
It always amazes me how many people who sholud know better buy into the two party scam.

posted on May, 13 2010 @ 09:18 PM
reply to post by Signals

Way to go Signals, keep hammering that point home 'till you get it through everyone's thick skulls.

Wake up people!

Both parties are the same. TPTB use them to keep us divided against each other while the same agenda moves along undisturbed, no matter who is in office.

posted on Jun, 30 2010 @ 11:42 PM
reply to post by Signals

The POLITICIANS may be the same, but the platforms they run on are not,and the people are not.The Ds ran on socialized medicine,what we got was forced privatized medicine.The people are divided into predators,independents,and altruists.

[edit on 30-6-2010 by RRokkyy]

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 01:35 AM
reply to post by Signals

By simply replying to you in the manner I'm about to proves your wrong in your belief about the left/right paradigm.

Not everyone has the same belief system that you do. Stating that democrats are the same as republicans does not disprove the fact that conservatives don't believe the same things liberals do.

Do I like the fact that our politicians are pigeonholed into a 'D' or an 'R'? No, I don't. Just as Ron Paul doesn't have an 'L' next to his name, Bernie Sanders doesn't have an 'S' next to his. Instead they're forced to have an 'R' and an 'I'.

Our political system and form of government allows the existence of meaningful third parties in congress, but our electoral college limits our choices of president.

There's still time to get on the ballot this year in a lot of states, just don't run under the 'D' or the 'R'...if Alvin Greene can find his way to the ballot so can you. Stop talking and start doing. Change doesn't have to come from the barrel of a gun and it certainly doesn't come from apathetic inaction.

Only the people that have 'awoken' are the ones that believe that everyone with a steady job believes the same thing.

posted on Jul, 1 2010 @ 01:44 AM
False Left/Right Paradigm For Advanced Users:

Dr. Roderick blasts left and right in yet another epic Mises video.

[edit on 1-7-2010 by mnemeth1]

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