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Reason Why Government is Too Big: CZARS

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posted on May, 13 2010 @ 01:03 PM
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Franklin Roosevelt was the first President to begin appointing czars into american positions. JFK tried to stop this, but Johnson was quick to begin appointing czars as soon as he took office.


Summary table - Number of czars per administration
The first number indicates the number of positions & the second number indicates the number of appointees. Obama sure has a lot of positions that still need filled!

Franklin Roosevelt 1933–1945 12 19
Harry Truman 1945–1953 6 6
Dwight Eisenhower 1953–1961 1 1
John F. Kennedy 1961–1963 0 0
Lyndon Johnson 1963–1969 3 3
Richard Nixon 1969–1974 3 5
Gerald Ford 1974–1977 1 1
Jimmy Carter 1977–1981 3 2
Ronald Reagan 1981–1989 1 1
George H. W. Bush 1989–1993 2 3
Bill Clinton 1993–2001 7 10
George W. Bush 2001–2009 35 47[1]
Barack Obama 2009– 38 8[1]

Did you know that Karl Rove held the title of czar?
You can access the complete list of czars at the link I have provided below, which is from Wikipedia. Please take special note that there are more AIDS czars than any other type. Also notice that Bush's Clean-Up Czar was terminated as soon as he was requesting transparency. I'm working on a downsized list with Obama's czars highlighted. I will post it as soon as it is finished. Thanks in advance for your patience.

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on May, 13 2010 @ 03:26 PM
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Well, according to this list, Obama has appointed 33 czars & he has 38 positions available. I wonder what the last 5 positions are? I guess I'll have to cross reference the czars Bush had to determine this.

Czars of previous Presidents include:
Birth Control czar, Czar czar (
), Rubber czar, Reading czar (Bush's, go figure
), Oil czar, and also a Mine Safety czar.

Obama's Current Czars:
Afghanistan and Pakistan czar - Holbrooke, Richard

AIDS czar - Crowley, Jeffrey

Auto czar, Car czar - Bloom, Ron

Auto Recovery czar, Autoworker czar - Montgomery, Ed

Bank Bailout czar, TARP czar - Allison, Herbert

Border czar - Bersin, Alan

Climate czar - Stern, Todd D.
Climate czar, Energy czar, Global Warming czar - Browner, Carol

Compensation czar, Pay czar (Special Master for TARP Executive Compensation) - Feinberg, Kenneth

Cyber Security czar, Cyber czar - Hathaway, Melissa & Schmidt, Howard

Domestic Violence czar - Rosenthal, Lynn

Drug czar - Kerlikowske, R. Gil

Economic czar, Big-Picture Economic czar - Volcker, Paul A.

Faith-Based czar - DuBois, Joshua

Great Lakes czar - Davis, Cameron

Green-Jobs czar - Jones, Van

Guantanamo Base closure czar - Fried, Daniel

Health czar - DeParle, Nancy-Ann

Information czar, Infotech czar - Kundra, Vivek

Intelligence czar - Blair, Dennis

Iran czar - Ross, Dennis

Manufacturing czar - Bloom, Ron

Middle East czar - Mitchell, George

Performance czar - Zients, Jeffrey

Regulatory czar - Sunstein, Cass

Science czar - Holdren, John

Stimulus Acountability czar, Simulus Oversight czar - Devaney, Earl

Technology czar, Chief Technology czar - Chopra, Aneesh

Terrorism czar - Brennan, John O.

Urban Affairs czar - Carrion, Adolfo

Weapons czar - Carter, Ashton

Weapons of Mass Destruction czar, Nonproliferation czar - Samore, Gary

Weatherization czar - Sperling, Gil



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[edit on 13-5-2010 by Afterthought]



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 03:28 PM
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i don't understand american politics, can somebody explain to me what these CZARs actually are please?



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Slim
i don't understand american politics, can somebody explain to me what these CZARs actually are please?


They are non-Russian government officials who are appointed to special positions in order for a socialist President to feel as though he has even more control over things. Don't worry, it's not communist, just a communist term.


That's not the Wikipedia definition, but that's what I got out of all the stupid titles above each department.

Who wants to make a bet that JFK's assination may have doen so that the government could appoint czars again?



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Afterthought

Originally posted by Dr Slim
i don't understand american politics, can somebody explain to me what these CZARs actually are please?


They are non-Russian government officials who are appointed to special positions in order for a socialist President to feel as though he has even more control over things. Don't worry, it's not communist, just a communist term.




Thanks a lot Afterthought, it sometimes gets a bit confusing with all the different government official titles from all around the globe :S



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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You're welcome.
The Wikipedia definition is as follows: In the United States, the informal political term "czar" or "tsar" is employed in media and popular usage to refer to high-level officials who oversee a particular policy. There have never been any U.S. government offices with the title "czar", but various governmental officials have sometimes been referred to by the nickname "czar" rather than their actual title.

I guess it's considered a nickname so everyone doesn't get all excited.

I believe that this will become a global term though. Especially now that Russia is coaching Obama on how to handle Iran.
Darn it! I was going to post the link to the article, but it's been taken off Drudge. I'll see if I can find it.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Russia coaching Obama, i'd like to hear more about that, got a link?



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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Well, I scoured a few major news sites, but it's obviously been scrapped for one reason or another. The only news I found relevant to Russia & the US converging was this article about the Peace Treaty between the US & Russia. Obama submitted it to the Senate today.

www.wftv.com...

I guess someone jumped the gun this morning & they don't want everyone to know that Russia is talking to Obama about Iran. I'll keep looking for the article, but I bet it's been taken down for good.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 04:33 PM
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Here's an article about Russia & the US teaming up against Iran, but it was from March 4th, 2009. Hmmm ... strange things seem to be afoot.

www.guardian.co.uk...



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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The following article about the war on drugs contains a statement from the Drug Czar. He says that calling it a war really limits your resources.


www.clickorlando.com...



posted on May, 14 2010 @ 08:58 AM
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I'm shamelessly giving this one more bump because I feel that it is important & signifies the fall of america & its Constitution.

I believe that John F. Kennedy believed that czars shouldn't be part of american politics & this may have played a part in his assination.

Can we please discuss this?



posted on May, 14 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Afterthought


They are non-Russian government officials who are appointed to special positions in order for a socialist President to feel as though he has even more control over things. Don't worry, it's not communist, just a communist term.


Actually, the communists hated the czars! The last Russian czar, along with his entire family, were massacred by the communists.



posted on May, 14 2010 @ 01:40 PM
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Hi, Masonic Light. Thanks for participating in this discussion. The killing and ousting of the czars in Russia happened during the Bolchevik Revolution, right? So, if Russia hated them so much, why are we now using the term & bestowing it on certain political figure heads such as Bush's architect Karl Rove? Do you feel that czars will become a global term? Why would we start using the term czar if they were so hated & accomplished nothing good for the country the first time?

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posted on May, 14 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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IMO, government is too big because politicians, and people in general, use the good old buddy system.

Man/woman gets job...they create positions for their family & friends.....family & friends gain government positions....repeat process...

Eventually, we will ALL work for the government. Might as well, as we are already slaves to it!


[edit on 14-5-2010 by Aggie Man]



posted on May, 14 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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Very true. I believe that the czars fall into this category. It's as if they are made up positions so their friends & family can be in with the good ol' boy network. I would like to see the government widdled down & I believe this could begin by getting rid of the czars. If you see on Wikipedia's list, only 1 has ever been fired & that's because he wanted to see certain reports & requested transparency. He was one of W's czars.



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