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Originally posted by Raustin
I read that OP 3x and still don't have a clue as to what you are trying to say. Are you instructing me to brandish my flesh sword on my wedding day for family and friends to see?
Originally posted by Tormentations
Adam and Eve...
They were bare when they got married.
Originally posted by jinx880101
I fully believe the Lilith theory- and I believe that God took the trouble to create a women numerous times for Adam- and he found fault with all of them- especially Lillith, because she refused to lay beneath him- essentially he tried to rape her... after she fled from him- God demanded she return to Adam, she would not obey.
But I agree with you on Marriage, somewhat - It's bogus- people can be fully committed to each other without signing a document...and all the other 'tradition' that goes with it.
The Alphabet of ben Sira is the earliest form we know of the Lilith legend familiar to most people (that is, to most people who are familiar with Lilith at all). It is here that we find Lilith as Adam's first wife. Scholars tend to date the Alphabet between the 8th and 10th centuries, CE. Whether the story itself is older, or, if so, how much older is not possible to say. Amulets like the one described in the first paragraph are, of course, much older. The author of the Zohar, R. Moses de Leon, was aware of the Alphabet's version of Lilith, at least according to Gershom Scholem (Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism, p. 174), but he also knows other, probably older, Lilith traditions which do not mesh well with this one. No attempt is made, apparently, to harmonize them. For one of these other traditions, and comments on whether the author was familiar with the Alphabet, see Treatise on the Left Emanation. The idea of Eve having a predecessor is also not new to ben Sira, and can be found in Genesis Rabbah . But those traditions make no mention of Lilith, and, in fact, do not mesh well with ben Sira's version of the story. [AH]
"The angels who are in charge of medicine: Snvi, Snsvi, and Smnglof. After God created Adam, who was alone, He said, 'It is not good for man to be alone' (Gen. 2:18). He then created a woman for Adam, from the earth, as He had created Adam himself, and called her Lilith. Adam and Lilith began to fight. She said, 'I will not lie below,' and he said, 'I will not lie beneath you, but only on top. For you are fit only to be in the bottom position, while am to be in the superior one.' Lilith responded, 'We are equal to each other inasmuch as we were both created from the earth.' But they would not listen to one another. When Lilith saw this, she pronounced the Ineffable Name and flew away into the air. Adam stood in prayer before his Creator: 'Sovereign of the universe!' he said, 'the woman you gave me has run away.' At once, the Holy One, blessed be He, sent these three angels to bring her back.
"Said the Holy One to Adam, 'If she agrees to come back, fine. If not she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day.' The angels left God and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her God's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, 'We shall drown you in the sea.'
Originally posted by jinx880101
Why do men get to have three wives in the Bible- as you say? Jesus having three wives...first I've heard of that. So, women are left feeling like they are not good enough, that it takes three of them to satisfy a man? While they are only allowed one husband.... Just as distorted as the rest of the Bible- always putting women down. Always putting them second and lower than men...
Originally posted by End Of Babylon
Well God is a man, and he gave women breasts with milk to take care of babies at home.
Women are 2nd and lower than men.
Why is this hard to accept?
Women can't fight man wars and run a country, they weren't built for that.
Women are not suppose to have any authority over any man.
Thats why the Israelites never had a Queen.
A Woman asking why she isn't equal to Man is like a Man asking why he isn't equal to Christ.