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Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Originally posted by Shadowflux
If you're willing to pay the service fee on a background check website, then yes. If you know how to research these things you could have the history of my family dating back hundreds of years.
If it is that simple then why not pay the same money, do the same check on Obama and be done with it?
Obama is no longer a private citizen, his history should be open to those who pay his salary. He rules by our consent, he is our employee
You do not pay his salary. If you pay taxes, he president gets paid. If you fail to pay taxes, the president gets paid. If you scam the IRS and make illegal money through tax schemes, the president still gets paid. You cannot withhold his pay. You cannot reduce his wages.
He does not rule by our consent. He was elected by our consent to do HIS job. You have representatives that are supposed to REPRESENT you and confer with higher government so that the entirety of it moves to serve the people; ALL THE PEOPLE - NOT JUST YOU.
He is not our employee unless you can present a solid argument otherwise.
There seems to be a huge misconception in this thread between what a public servant
does and what a public servant IS.
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by filosophia
You don't remember an FBI director named Hoover? How many files did he have on presidents?
you don't need a password to get into a data base
(1) having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained information that has been determined by the United States Government pursuant to an Executive order or statute to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national defense or foreign relations, or any restricted data, as defined in paragraph y. of section 11 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, with reason to believe that such information so obtained could be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation willfully communicates, delivers, transmits, or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;
(2) intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains—
(A) information contained in a financial record of a financial institution, or of a card issuer as defined in section 1602 (n) of title 15, or contained in a file of a consumer reporting agency on a consumer, as such terms are defined in the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.);
(B) information from any department or agency of the United States; or
(C) information from any protected computer;
(3) intentionally, without authorization to access any nonpublic computer of a department or agency of the United States, accesses such a computer of that department or agency that is exclusively for the use of the Government of the United States or, in the case of a computer not exclusively for such use, is used by or for the Government of the United States and such conduct affects that use by or for the Government of the United States;
Originally posted by King Loki
WTF does how he gets paid have anything to do with what shadow said ... the reason he gets payed anyway is because hundreds of millions of people pay taxes not just 1 person
as was pointed out. I thought it was kind of pointless to repeat something that had already been posted since, you know, you can just go back a page and read things. But anyway.
You can not write him up.
You can not suspend him.
You can not deny him a raise.
You can not approve or deny vacation requests.
You can not have him into your office for a "corrective" chat.
You can not fire him.
You can not set his scedule.
You can not decide his tasks.
You can not declare his salary as one of your tax expenses.
You can not etc...
YOU ARE NOT THE PRESIDENT'S EMPLOYER.
... and that cash flow is so large it doesn't matter what happens to most of it because there is so much he will get paid anyways.
talk about deflecting ... i haven't seen one post of yours yet that has you answering the actual question of the person you are quoting ... u just go off on personal tangents and start spouting crap that makes no sense the the quoted person ????
Originally posted by jibeho
Originally posted by piddles
reply to post by jibeho
it's absolutely ridiculous that'd you'd compare the dailykos to WND. Dailykos uses facts and WND uses BS, huge difference.
Right wing blogs in general are known for lying and exaggerating, it's such common knowledge that no one can/should take them seriously (and most people don't)
Thank you for backing up my statement regarding opinions.
Of course, the progressive blogs are always right and the evil satanic conservative blogs are filled with angst and lies.
Funny how the Daily Kos state of the nation polls are always in stark contrast to the majority of main stream polls. If all you read is Daily Kos, you would never know that our nation is in economic trouble or that HCR will cost $115 billion more than projected.
Common knowledge in the esoteric and lost world of the progressive movement perhaps. That was just my opinion of course.