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Former Legislator Makes Statement May 8, 2010 on Un-Released Eisenhower Brief Regarding ET's

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posted on May, 13 2010 @ 07:09 PM
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All I can comment on is that there must be some merit to his story and past experiences.

If not? why put yourself in a position where your face and comments are going to pasted all over the internet and up for public ridicule, also after a long respected position in the goverment.

Either he is on a mission of self destruction or he actualy did witness those documents.

Regards BDU


[edit on 13/5/10 by Bob Down Under]




posted on May, 13 2010 @ 07:17 PM
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Unless the MJ-12 ruse is again related to a tangible event that played out during the Eisenhower presidency.


Maybe, but there is no definitive proof of that and maybe's do not make it so.


How ironic it is for those of you who claim knowledge of the authenticity of the Majestic Twelve documents to be calling out McElroy for perpetuating a lie.


Since your reply was aimed at me I will presume that "those of you" includes me.
The documents have no provenance so personally I cannot accept them however this does not mean Mr McElroy did not see documents relating to the same subject matter it is just that I would want to have those documents authenticated before they float my boat.


Simply stunning how humans can turn everything, including healthy skepticism, into zealous dogma


Clearly you are not impressed by my opinion but that is what this subject matter elicits unfortunately I wish it could be otherwise but on the upside you could always get that warm fuzzy feeling from knowing you are right and I am wrong.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 07:23 PM
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Good question arbiture, and you made me start thinking about the question of actual disclosure to the American people, and for that matter the world.
Before I posted this thread last night, I watched the McElroy video three times to make sure that I understood, at the very least the potential of what he was saying. At that time, there were 248 views of his video. I saw that as of a few minutes ago there have now been 10,356 views of this video in less than 24 hours, which to me is incredible. Who knows it could go to more than a million views in a month's time strictly thru internet blogs, sites like this etc.


Ok, so here's the scenario. Please keep in mind that it is an example ONLY.
The situation has gotten to the point that phone calls, telegrams, letters
are being received at the White House and in various Congressional Offices, after 3 more previously unknown persons, but who have strong credibility
come forward with similiar information as McElroy. One is a retired general with a mass of information re ET's and UFO 's over the last several years, including copies of documents that he should not have retained in his possession, but did; second is a well known politician who is actually
respected by both major parties, and the third is a corporate mogul who has had first hand knowledge of UFO's and ties to national defense contractors.
All have decided to come forward for various reasons, and the pressure
is increasingly daily for disclosure. The CIA has determined that a South
American ruler has unbelievably come into possession of some very credible documents, and thru wiretapped calls, they have learned that this ruler is going to disclose same in an attempt to embarass the adminstration.
CNN, Fox News and numerous media outlets have gotten to the point of obsession so that the President has decided disclosure must be made.

You are the President's speech writer and have been given ths assignment
to prepare a brief but credible explanation that maintains the power structure as is, does not cause undue panic, and yet satisfys the curious, and explains why disclosure has not previously occured.

Here's the speech I would write. This meeting will be held at the White House, televised obviously, with representatives from several different countries present, as well as international scientist, astronauts, military leaders etc. all of whom have agreed in advance to discuss this on camera.

"Ladies and Gentlemen: I would like to thank you for being here today.
As you know, the topic of my presentation today will be the possibility of
ET or Extra Terrestrial Life here on Earth, and on the topic of UFO's
which are commonly known as Unidentified Flying Objects."

"After I conclude my presentation, there will be additional presentations by various countries who are present here today. Questions may be asked only after all presentations have been made"

"As you know, these topics have been the subject of much discussion and speculation for the last 60 years or more."

"I have only been in office since 2008, but have recently been debriefed in great detail on this entire situation as it exists on earth today, from the perspectives or knowledge of our military organizations, and intelligence agencies."

"In the interest of transparency and open government, and my desire to see our government as being. of the people and for the people, I am here today to announce that the United States of America, in cooperation with many countries throughout the world, has had a working relationship with Extra Terrestrials who have visited this planet for many years."

" I am aware that this announcement will come as a shock to many people, and to tell you the truth I was kind of surprised myself to learn of the full extent of that relationship, which has also been known by Presidents previous to me."

"First, I want to emphasize that the relationship between America, the ET's and all of the countries here today, has been a good one."

"Alien technology has been shared with us over the years which has been used to benefit mankind, despite rumors to the contrary."

"The Aliens are not here to harm you, and they do not pose a threat to the United States, or any other country on Earth."

"They wish to work with us for many years in the future, to our mutual benefit. including the sharing of new technologies for improving crop yields, eliminating certain types of diseases, accelerated cleanup of our waterways and polluted riverss, and conversion of former desert areas into grasslands, to name a few of those technologies."


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posted on May, 13 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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"I know that many persons in the world have criticized our government, and other governments worldwide about non-disclosure."

"I am here to tell you today, that this was a necessary step, more so in the early years of our knowledge and relationship with the ET's than today. In order for us to learn how ET's operate, and to determine their true intentions.

"This study or analysis has been undertaken for more than 60 years of active involvement with ET's"

"We have now determined, thru our own analysis, and that of leaders in other countries, and by a gradual acclimation of media exposure via television programs, movies, and the print media, that the world is now ready to accept that Extra Terrestial Life is real."

"I will now ask (name of a country leader) to speak of his country's experiences in this matter, to be followed by .........."

"Thank you ladies and gentlemen, and may God Bless America, and the countries represented here today"

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Any thoughts or comments? Remember this is an example only. But when disclosure occurs, it always good to have something prepared in advance.




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posted on May, 13 2010 @ 08:02 PM
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Does anyone have a link to show that Henry McElroy Jr is who he says he is? All I found was this:

Henry W. McElroy, Jr., Canidate for New Hampshire Hillsborough County District 20

Sorry if he has already been confirmed, if so, a repost would be great.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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Outstanding,

This is great news, something most of us knew it was true is confirmed by this NH official.

I am not going to wave the disclosure is nigh banner but it's a step in the right direction.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Newbomb Turk

Originally posted by ThenThanCorrectionMan
When comon folk started reporting ufo sightings the debunkers would say,
these people don't know what they are looking at or they just want attention.Then you had trained observers such as police and pilots and the debunkers would say where is the evidence.Now that ex military, government officials and astronauts confirm the existence of et visitors the debunkers say they are all crazy or senile.
Its prety much the same as doctors and scientists always trying to explain away NDE's.Endlessly revolving in circles never coming to a conclusion because they are stuck in the religion of scientism.


Former military here, and once you hear from more troops about their "experiences" over in the Middle East AOR, and what they had truly seen over there for those that used FLIR (newest night vision)...then you will hear more and more stories about what is truly happening in our night skies ;-)

Thing is I am now out as I got out last year, as more and more leave the service, you will begin to hear more about them. For those that wish to come forward and share that is.

Hey thanks for the post, there does seem to be a connection with night vison etc and ufo's. It's strange, but not so much if we assume there are hidden crafts above us, alien or not, that can only be seen with certain technology.


[edit on 13-5-2010 by _Phoenix_]



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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As far as the US stating that we have alien technology or that we have been contacted by extraterrestrials, It Won't Happen. I know that we have been contacted but as far as I can tell and from various sources, I know that no other country has been offered ET technology from us or ETs. If Obama should do this, it probably will turn every other country very envious if not hostile, wanting the technology and information shared. Not only will DOD protest, but also big businesses and pharmaceuticals. (think and remember Tesla). As far as I am aware, no clearinghouse has been set up to accomplish this and I don't believe any are even on the drawing board.
This will become far bigger than present as more countries release their files. Most if not all will have any sort of technology exchange recorded.
Its all about greed and power, actually something ET is not familiar with but studying us closely, trying to comprehend us. We seem to be unique in our ways of "evil".
Don't give up, though, there's always a chance...



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by game over man
Does anyone have a link to show that Henry McElroy Jr is who he says he is? All I found was this:

Henry W. McElroy, Jr., Canidate for New Hampshire Hillsborough County District 20

Sorry if he has already been confirmed, if so, a repost would be great.



This page has some info and some links: (from a skeptical orientation)

redstarfilms.blogspot.com...



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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NightFlight.....



I know that we have been contacted


How do you know?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 09:58 PM
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Well, there must be something in this one.

Why? Because the skeptics are crawling all over it. 19 pages worth, and they are the same people, with nothing to add, except their usual vitriol and off-topic bs and derailment.

I even read a post that basically said "this blogger backs up my suspicion that McElroy is a nutter, therefore he must be a nutter".

These are the low-down dirty tactics that are used to discredit reliable testimony. Well I think he is telling the truth. It backs up the many stories of rumous of meetings between Eisenhower and the Greys. Of course, this alone, is a bridge too far for the skeptics. But those of us who have researched the subject and can visualise the timeline, right up to his farewell speech in 1961, know there is more than meets the eye.

It also fits with the 'Top Secret MJ-12 Majic' documents that many dismiss as hoaxes due to 'font issues'..

..starred and flagged this thread, but unfortunately the quality of input in this thread is downright woeful thanks to the usual suspects - the eager beavers they are - to dismiss anything that doesn't fit with the idea of extraterrestrials having visited Earth.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 09:58 PM
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Don't forget, there has been some recent speculation here on ATS that Greer is reptilian, also! Hahaha!



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:02 PM
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And I know I'm in a minority on this but I really think something like this hurts the cause far more than helps.

This gentleman is making a totally unsubstantiated claim concerning the Eisenhower administration which ended 50 years ago and appears to be basing that on the authority of the very slim political credential of New Hampshire state representative.

A state representative in tiny, eccentric New Hampshire represents on average only 3,000 or so people. On a par with a city council election in most other places. We are offered nothing else about the man's biography, not even the details of the government career on which this claim is made. Was he in office in the fifties? Did he see this document five years ago? Why would a minor state legislator have access to such a document in the first place? What rational person could accept this claim at face value without further information?



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by RiotComing
These are the low-down dirty tactics that are used to discredit reliable testimony.


Just out of curiosity, what is your basis for concluding that this is reliable testimony? Other than that it supports your point of view?

There's really very little information about this man available at all. Aren't you jumping to conclusions just the same as what you accuse the skeptics of doing?



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by MarrsAttax
I did read your full post and it boiled down to the argument from personal incredulity. You don't believe the government would divulge these secrets to this man therefore it didn't happen.


You are right, I don't see it happening. The government is not known for divulging state-secrets to state legislators. So then why they would reveal this secret to him and possibly thousands of other people in a similar position? While it doesn't necessarily mean it couldn't happen, it doesn't make any sense why it would happen. It is a hole in his story, one he doesn't not shore up with any facts. The lack of details is very suspicious.


Originally posted by MarrsAttax
Those are possible explanations but not the only ones. However, you don't allow for any alternative explanations in your statement.


Then present a viable alternative.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by chips



best visual reply

ever! RIP the wire.....

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posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by RiotComing
Well I think he is telling the truth.


Why do you think he is telling the truth?


Originally posted by RiotComing
It backs up the many stories of rumous of meetings between Eisenhower and the Greys.


How? That particular part of the mythology is part of our popular culture. It was even portrayed in an episode of Dark Skies. With a minimum of research, anyone can recite a similar scenario. Just because someone can doesn't necessarily mean it supports the rumors.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:40 PM
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Question:

If President Obama went on national television, and announced in a similiar scenario to the one I posted several posts above, but
produced no other evidence, other than his word, would you accept
that?



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Bob Down Under
If not? why put yourself in a position where your face and comments are going to pasted all over the internet and up for public ridicule, also after a long respected position in the government.


Was his career "long and respected"? I'm not saying it wasn't, but there seems to be a lot of assumptions about the man's career in politics, when we know nothing about how the man was received by the people of New Hampshire. For all we know, he could be reincarnation of Mr. Smith or he could be that one flake politician that you're embarrassed lives in your state.


Originally posted by Bob Down Under
Either he is on a mission of self destruction or he actualy did witness those documents.


It isn't necessarily self-destruction. There is a lot of mileage to be gained with certain segments of the population, depending on how he spins this.



posted on May, 13 2010 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by manta78

Question:

If President Obama went on national television, and announced in a similiar scenario to the one I posted several posts above, but
produced no other evidence, other than his word, would you accept
that?


I would almost have to, wouldn't I?

That isn't to say I would simply because he is the President. But rather because he would be in a position to know. Still, even then I would like to see the evidence. He would be re-writing history and we would all need to see the basis for that claim.



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